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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #6542
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    A flu with a mortality rate of 30-40% in China in 1918 would have been recorded as it made its way from china to Europe and the states. The trail of destruction that virus and its mortality rate was shocking.

    And if the person was a cook? How many more would they have infected? Disaster. Just as happened in the states.

    Makes no sense that a virus that was so virulent and such a high mortality rate could march accross a continent to another without anyone noticing..

    It's more a hypothesis by a Canadian war researcher. Workers from China had been sent to the US during the war and were infected with something.
    I dont know much more about it, maybe it went nowhere as an idea

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #6543
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,335 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    imfml wrote: »
    There was a Channel 4 interview with a British couple in the cruise ship in Japan posted here. They mentioned they were keeping in touch via Facebook with other British couples and an Irish couple they met on the ship. Has it been confirmed there is an Irish couple on the ship? I really feel for anyone on that cruise.

    Haven't heard anything about Irish people on that ship.

    Of the 9 cases they had in the UK 7 have now been discharged from hospital and the other 2 aren't in a serious condition so it seems they are dealing with it pretty well.


  • #6544
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    imfml wrote: »
    There was a Channel 4 interview with a British couple in the cruise ship in Japan posted here. They mentioned they were keeping in touch via Facebook with other British couples and an Irish couple they met on the ship. Has it been confirmed there is an Irish couple on the ship? I really feel for anyone on that cruise.

    Perhaps from NI so maybe just added to the total of UK citizens on board?


  • #6545
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    The latest corona virus was covered briefly but accurately on Radio 1 (Weekend on One) by the Professor of Biochemistry in the School of Biochemistry and Immunology at TCD (Luke O'Neill).

    https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/#/radio1/11154525

    1:49

    To summarise, the expert said there is a very low risk of people in Ireland dying from it and there will be a vaccine by Autumn. He said there is a lot of scaremongering going on.

    He kept stressing that social media is making things worse by scaring people unnecessarily. Even the WHO are calling it an 'infodemic' where lots of false information is being spread on the media and social media.


  • #6546
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    The latest corona virus was covered briefly but accurately on Radio 1 (Weekend on One) by the Professor of Biochemistry in the School of Biochemistry and Immunology at TCD (Luke O'Neill).

    https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/#/radio1/11154525

    1:49

    To summarise, the expert said there is a very low risk of people in Ireland dying from it and there will be a vaccine by Autumn. He said there is a lot of scaremongering going on.

    He kept stressing that social media is making things worse by scaring people unnecessarily. Even the WHO are calling it an 'infodemic' where lots of false information is being spread on the media and social media.

    They would wouldn't they :-)

    Still caution is warranted until more is known. I.ve started over buying, plan is too have a months supply of long life food over the next month. I'd be more worried by having to deal with panicky people down the line than the actual virus

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • #6547
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,335 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    silverharp wrote: »
    They would wouldn't they :-)

    Still caution is warranted until more is known. I.ve started over buying, plan is too have a months supply of long life food over the next month. I'd be more worried by having to deal with panicky people down the line than the actual virus

    We aren't going to know much more than we know now. In 4 to 6 weeks the number of cases will have dropped massively and it will have moved out of the new cycle.


  • #6548
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,432 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    MadYaker wrote: »
    We aren't going to know much more than we know now. In 4 to 6 weeks the number of cases will have dropped massively and it will have moved out of the new cycle.

    Yeah first US case got tested back on January 19th nearly a month ago now and there has only been 14 cases since and the US is a far more urbanised society than Ireland


  • #6549
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    The latest corona virus was covered briefly but accurately on Radio 1 (Weekend on One) by the Professor of Biochemistry in the School of Biochemistry and Immunology at TCD (Luke O'Neill).

    https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/#/radio1/11154525

    1:49

    To summarise, the expert said there is a very low risk of people in Ireland dying from it and there will be a vaccine by Autumn. He said there is a lot of scaremongering going on.

    He kept stressing that social media is making things worse by scaring people unnecessarily. Even the WHO are calling it an 'infodemic' where lots of false information is being spread on the media and social media.

    That would be very risky


  • #6550
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,850 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Evacuation of the US citizens from the Diamond Princess has begun. https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0216/1115586-corona-virus-toll-update/

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #6551
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    The latest corona virus was covered briefly but accurately on Radio 1 (Weekend on One) by the Professor of Biochemistry in the School of Biochemistry and Immunology at TCD (Luke O'Neill)....To summarise, the expert said there is a very low risk of people in Ireland dying from it and there will be a vaccine by Autumn. He said there is a lot of scaremongering going on.
    He kept stressing that social media is making things worse by scaring people unnecessarily. Even the WHO are calling it an 'infodemic' where lots of false information is being spread on the media and social media.

    And again it's not about the risk of people dying (which is relatively low even in China) . It's more to do with a very real risk of a large number of infected people overwhelming existing medical services and resources.

    And its great that he believes a vaccine will be available by the Autumn - however that wont help deal with any possible further outbreak either inside or outside China in the meantime.

    The timeline to a critical number of infected people (many who may be asymptomatic or just have mild systems and therefore remain undetected) means that - much like Wuhan - the rest of the world is looking at a 6 to 8 week delay until we are likley to see any significant outbreak outside China.

    But yeah theres always a risk of false news. Though most people have enough sense to know the difference I would hope.


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  • #6552
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    gozunda wrote: »
    But yeah theres always a risk of false news. Though most people have enough sense to know the difference I would hope.

    :D

    Just take a read of this thread for a start!


  • #6553
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    :D

    Just take a read of this thread for a start!

    Nah I dont agree :p Plenty of daft news has been highlighted already. I see very few in panic mode or claiming that it's not happening either or even similar tbh


  • #6554
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,850 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Forty infected Americans among the cruise ship evacuees who will go for treatment in Japan. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51524460

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #6555
    [Deleted User]
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    Snow Garden wrote: »
    He kept stressing that social media is making things worse by scaring people unnecessarily. Even the WHO are calling it an 'infodemic' where lots of false information is being spread on the media and social media.
    They were already complaining about the spread of misinformation via social media during the Event 201 simulation - a simulation in which no misinformation was actually spread.

    https://youtu.be/AoLw-Q8X174?t=492

    I don't see any evidence of actual panic but these talking heads keep saying "social media is causing a panic".

    I suspect a lot of the disinformation is being planted or encouraged by the powers that be. This will be used to justify an escalation in the crackdown on social media and non-state-sponsored news sources.


  • #6556
    what the hell!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭what the hell!


    Mick Finn, former Lord Mayor of Cork saying on Twitter that he has heard from somebody in the hospital the Corona has been confirmed in Cork.

    Edit: he’s after deleting the tweet. Whether true or not bit of a reckless tweet by the public rep.


  • #6557
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,173 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Deleted User wrote: »
    They were already complaining about the spread of misinformation via social media during the Event 201 simulation - a simulation in which no misinformation was actually spread.

    https://youtu.be/AoLw-Q8X174?t=492

    I don't see any evidence of actual panic but these talking heads keep saying "social media is causing a panic".

    I suspect a lot of the disinformation is being planted or encouraged by the powers that be. This will be used to justify an escalation in the crackdown on social media and non-state-sponsored news sources.



    They're already cracking down on the sale of aluminium foil in supermarkets so we won't be able to stop them reading our thoughts.


  • #6558
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    what the hell! wrote: »
    Mick Finn, former Lord Mayor of Cork saying on Twitter that he has heard from somebody in the hospital the Corona has been confirmed in Cork.

    HSE and Irish goverment lying big shock there.

    It got into the UK but just stopped at the Irish Sea yeah right.:D


  • #6559
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    The latest corona virus was covered briefly but accurately on Radio 1 (Weekend on One) by the Professor of Biochemistry in the School of Biochemistry and Immunology at TCD (Luke O'Neill).
    To summarise, the expert said there is a very low risk of people in Ireland dying from it and there will be a vaccine by Autumn....
    A similar chap was on same station (perhaps this, or another similar R1 podcast), but the said it would be 1yr before vaccine, and 20k deaths directly from it could be a possibility in Ire (WCS).
    Any vaccine would need to be discovered, then animal trials, the human trails and further observation before been given the green light and final sign-off for widespread licenced public use. Thus Winter, not Autumn might be closer.

    Across the water, Professor Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London warned the UK could see a death rate reach 400,000 people there (assume that's the WCS, as he assumes 60% of total population group infected).
    Would even dismiss that 60% (global or national) rate, and consider way off, more like e.g. 5%? Even for the H1N1 that went global years ago, only know 2people from hundreds, and that actually got it that year.


  • #6560
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,418 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    what the hell! wrote: »
    Mick Finn, former Lord Mayor of Cork saying on Twitter that he has heard from somebody in the hospital the Corona has been confirmed in Cork.

    Edit: he’s after deleting the tweet. Whether true or not bit of a reckless tweet by the public rep.

    Mick is obviously a fúcktard.


  • #6561
    dominatinMC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    HSE and Irish goverment lying big shock there.

    It got into the UK but just stopped at the Irish Sea yeah right.:D
    Well, ya. Given the low number of cases there at present, it's very plausible.


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  • #6562
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Cork is Ireland's Wuhan

    Be proud


  • #6563
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,850 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    The Channel 4 programme on a day or two ago stated that a vaccine wouldn't be ready till 18 months time.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #6564
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Cork is Ireland's Wuhan

    Be proud


    Hopefully a mistake. If Cork is hit then nowhere is safe!


  • #6565
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    The Channel 4 programme on a day or two ago stated that a vaccine wouldn't be able till 18 months time.
    Agree it will be a while, as anyone having side effects or full blown narcolepsy - from any new, rushed or experimental vaccine would be in line for legal payday.

    You could always make them sign a wavier, or sign-up to become part of a initial human trials group (in return for payment).

    Wonder will Mr.Gates will be involved in any global vax rollout next year...


  • #6566
    Rvsmmnps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Rvsmmnps


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  • #6567
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,335 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    what the hell! wrote: »
    Mick Finn, former Lord Mayor of Cork saying on Twitter that he has heard from somebody in the hospital the Corona has been confirmed in Cork.

    Edit: he’s after deleting the tweet. Whether true or not bit of a reckless tweet by the public rep.

    Id say a case or two here is likely. But it isn't a cause for alarm. I can't believe he was stupid enough to tweet something like that though.


  • #6568
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    The Channel 4 programme on a day or two ago stated that a vaccine wouldn't be able till 18 months time.


    yep, that's what is being reported on the news everywhere in Europe


  • #6569
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,432 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    HSE and Irish goverment lying big shock there.

    It got into the UK but just stopped at the Irish Sea yeah right.:D

    There is a handful of cases in the UK which up to a week or 2 ago had direct flights to China and still has direct flights to Singapore and Thailand something Ireland doesn't have.


  • #6570
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,854 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Cork is Ireland's Wuhan

    Be proud

    :pac: jaysus, a new level of panic has been established!


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  • #6571
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    'If it takes 15 minutes of exposure to get it (heard that somewhere) then what about a person getting public transport to the airport. Then cueing up to check bags in. Then cueing up at security. Then having some food or drink. Then cueing up to get on plane. Then being on plane. Then waiting for bags at other end of destination.'


    If an infected person sneezes beside you and either of you don't have protection then you won't need 15mins to have a very high chance of infection.


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