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Jerry Atrick · 12-02-2020 11:49AM

Any shake up in the championship structures on the local front this year? Any fixtures out yet either, not seen any on social media?

whiteandblue · 12-02-2020 11:52AM

Jerry Atrick wrote: »

Any shake up in the championship structures on the local front this year? Any fixtures out yet either, not seen any on social media?

Senior same as last year anyway. 1st hurling championship match is weekend of 28-29th of March and 2nd group game is the week after.
Football is then the following 2 weekends as well so by the 18th of April, weather permitting, the county board hope to have 2 group games of each played.

Mastermcgrath · 12-02-2020 10:24PM

whiteandblue wrote: »

Senior same as last year anyway. 1st hurling championship match is weekend of 28-29th of March and 2nd group game is the week after.
Football is then the following 2 weekends as well so by the 18th of April, weather permitting, the county board hope to have 2 group games of each played.

They should split senior into 2 tiers. having likes Ballygunner and Ballysaggart in the same competition makes no sense. Ballygunner and DLS clubs have more playing members than what lives in Ballysaggart.

upthedeise16 · 12-02-2020 10:31PM

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

They should split senior into 2 tiers. having likes Ballygunner and Ballysaggart in the same competition makes no sense. Ballygunner and DLS clubs have more playing members than what lives in Ballysaggart.

Crazy statement, they’ve won the intermediate they deserve to be senior, the way you’re thinking we would have only have 4 senior teams

DiscoStew · 12-02-2020 11:03PM

upthedeise16 wrote: »

Crazy statement, they’ve won the intermediate they deserve to be senior, the way you’re thinking we would have only have 4 senior teams

I agree with the overall point. There is a bit of a divide in our senior championship. If we are to persist with it with 12 teams I’d like to see 2 groups of 6 but arrange them similar to how is done in Limerick. They place the top 6 teams in Group 1 and the bottom 6 senior teams in Group 2. From what I know of their structure the top 4 teams in group 1 progress. 1st and 2nd possibly into semi finals and teams 3 and 4 are joined by 1 and 2 from group 2.
Our system as it is currently isn’t necessarily bad but can lead to some mismatches which don’t serve anyone well. I don’t see the county executive going for this as they see it as playing more rounds of group stages, even though this is offset come the knockout rounds.
Any Limerick poster might fact check this please, it was a senior club player in Limerick who explained this system to me lately.

DiscoStew · 12-02-2020 11:05PM

whiteandblue wrote: »

Senior same as last year anyway. 1st hurling championship match is weekend of 28-29th of March and 2nd group game is the week after.
Football is then the following 2 weekends as well so by the 18th of April, weather permitting, the county board hope to have 2 group games of each played.

No senior round at the end of June this year it would seem. Not sure as to the reason, possibly to do with Waterford potentially being involved in the Tier 2 football championship.

DiscoStew · 12-02-2020 11:07PM

whiteandblue wrote: »

Senior same as last year anyway. 1st hurling championship match is weekend of 28-29th of March and 2nd group game is the week after.
Football is then the following 2 weekends as well so by the 18th of April, weather permitting, the county board hope to have 2 group games of each played.

No senior round at the end of June this year it would seem. Not sure as to the reason, possibly to do with Waterford potentially being involved in the Tier 2 football championship.

lim4ev · 13-02-2020 12:01AM

DiscoStew wrote: »

I agree with the overall point. There is a bit of a divide in our senior championship. If we are to persist with it with 12 teams I’d like to see 2 groups of 6 but arrange them similar to how is done in Limerick. They place the top 6 teams in Group 1 and the bottom 6 senior teams in Group 2. From what I know of their structure the top 4 teams in group 1 progress. 1st and 2nd possibly into semi finals and teams 3 and 4 are joined by 1 and 2 from group 2.
Our system as it is currently isn’t necessarily bad but can lead to some mismatches which don’t serve anyone well. I don’t see the county executive going for this as they see it as playing more rounds of group stages, even though this is offset come the knockout rounds.
Any Limerick poster might fact check this please, it was a senior club player in Limerick who explained this system to me lately.

Yes that's exactly how it works here in Limerick to be fair to the board they've got it fairly right we do have some mis matches as we'd have 4 v strong senior sides plus 3 or 4 good sides the other 4 would be average enough but as a guy that goes to a lot of club matches I think its the best system they can come up with, I'm sure plenty would disagree but from what i see its not bad

Mastermcgrath · 13-02-2020 07:06AM

upthedeise16 wrote: »

Crazy statement, they’ve won the intermediate they deserve to be senior, the way you’re thinking we would have only have 4 senior teams

Yes they did, not taking that away, but there should be senior A and Senior B as in Limerick as the posters above said. Senior B; top 2 go into quarter finals with senior A teams, and promoted to senior A the following year replacing the bottom 2 from senior A - relegated to B

the intermediate winners over the past 10 years generally don't stay up very long. Ive lost track of how many times Ring went up and straight back down, Portlaw, cappoquin, Clonea last year are the exception rather than the rule and Lismore a few years back should never have been relagted in the first place.

The gap is too big, they might compete for a game or 2 but generally take an awful hammering from Ballygunner and the wheels come off

puzl · 13-02-2020 12:52PM

Call it Senior B or Premier Intermediate or whatever, but there is a case for having such a system. Counties that go that route often end up with divisional teams in the Senior Championship What would we have 6 Senior teams, 2 Divisional teams. Each Divisional team made up of the top players from all the intermediate clubs? Such a system has its merits, but not without drawbacks. For example, having to go into Munster after losing your county final to a divisional side is a difficult thing to motivate yourself for.

upthedeise16 · 13-02-2020 11:12PM

http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/308538

Thought it was a weakened team when I read the headline but it’s more about the return of Casey, Byrne’s, Lynch and Gillane

willbeuptuesday · 14-02-2020 10:46AM

Does anyone have a fixture list for Football and hurling (even dates will do), nothing on the Waterford Gaa Website. The Waterford GAA website has to be the poorest in the country, it still has last years results on it. It is not mobile friendly, this needs to updated asap.

tommylad1212 · 14-02-2020 11:07AM

willbeuptuesday wrote: »

Does anyone have a fixture list for Football and hurling (even dates will do), nothing on the Waterford Gaa Website. The Waterford GAA website has to be the poorest in the country, it still has last years results on it. It is not mobile friendly, this needs to updated asap.

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hardybuck · 14-02-2020 11:13AM

tommylad1212 wrote: »

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Two months between the football round 3 and play offs and if your team goes straight to the quarter finals you've got 10 weeks between matches - absolute farce.

KevIRL · 14-02-2020 11:19AM

Anyone care to guess at chances of the match being called off tomorrow due to weather? Forecasts not great for the south and West with storm Denis

tommylad1212 · 14-02-2020 11:23AM

hardybuck wrote: »

Two months between the football round 3 and play offs and if your team goes straight to the quarter finals you've got 10 weeks between matches - absolute farce.

Same as last year, two teams got walkovers last year in their final group game so was longer till they played a knockout

NaDeise92 · 14-02-2020 11:50AM

KevIRL wrote: »

Anyone care to guess at chances of the match being called off tomorrow due to weather? Forecasts not great for the south and West with storm Denis

Looks like its gonna be rough weather for it alright - after a few of the games were played last week in shocking weather - kildare v armagh & tyrone v kerry up in omagh in atrocious conditions - I cant see this game being called off

willbeuptuesday · 14-02-2020 11:56AM

Thanks for that, any league fixtures. Its mid February and no league fixtures its some joke.

hardybuck · 14-02-2020 11:57AM

NaDeise92 wrote: »

Looks like its gonna be rough weather for it alright - after a few of the games were played last week in shocking weather - kildare v armagh & tyrone v kerry up in omagh in atrocious conditions - I cant see this game being called off

Waterford v Wexford was described as unplayable for the 2nd half down in Dungarvan last Saturday night.

PTH2009 · 14-02-2020 01:45PM

tommylad1212 wrote: »

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What was the point in moving around the intercounty season if theres still big gaps between county championship rounds

Are they GAA getting lads out to the states/Australia to promote the games after there knocked out of the intercounty in june(some even the middle of may)

Farce

KevIRL · 14-02-2020 10:10PM

Soky
S fives
Prunty
McNulty
C Lyons
Daly
Moran
C gleeson
Mahony
Montgomery
Dillon
Fagan
J prendergast
S Bennett
Curran

KevIRL · 14-02-2020 10:11PM

Austin and Barron on bench

lim4ev · 14-02-2020 10:19PM

Well guys whats the feeling for tomorrow evening firstly hope it goes ahead an awful forecast have been really impressed with some of yer new guys but haven't seen enough of them yet.

For what it's worth and I wouldn't be expecting many to travel from Waterford considering the weather plus it's live on tv but there have been big attendances at our home games so come early if travelling

carter10 · 14-02-2020 10:43PM

lim4ev wrote: »

Well guys whats the feeling for tomorrow evening firstly hope it goes ahead an awful forecast have been really impressed with some of yer new guys but haven't seen enough of them yet.

For what it's worth and I wouldn't be expecting many to travel from Waterford considering the weather plus it's live on tv but there have been big attendances at our home games so come early if travelling

A good crowd travelled to Mullingar so I expect we will be well supported if it goes ahead. Should be a good test for the new set up. Looking forward to it

PTH2009 · 14-02-2020 11:29PM

KevIRL wrote: »

Austin and Barron on bench

Both will prob make appearances I'd say

Mastermcgrath · 14-02-2020 11:42PM

lim4ev wrote: »

Well guys whats the feeling for tomorrow evening firstly hope it goes ahead an awful forecast have been really impressed with some of yer new guys but haven't seen enough of them yet.

For what it's worth and I wouldn't be expecting many to travel from Waterford considering the weather plus it's live on tv but there have been big attendances at our home games so come early if travelling

Definetly up against a Limerick team that look close to championship ready. Happy enough if we only end up with 2 wins in the group as long as there is signs of progress and Cahill is putting his stamp on this panel. Last year we stumbled our way into a league final with no sense of who we were as a team or what the managers philosophy was and it all unravelled in the Munster championship.

A strong competitive performance with more quality game time for the younger players is the aim more so than the result.

DiscoStew · 15-02-2020 12:19AM

Kieran Bennett out for a few months again it seems, bad hamstring injury. No Darragh Fives this weekend, hopefully this is simply a precaution.

tommylad1212 · 15-02-2020 01:48AM

willbeuptuesday wrote: »

Thanks for that, any league fixtures. Its mid February and no league fixtures its some joke.

Football next weekend hurling weekend after

Road-Hog · 15-02-2020 11:59AM

lim4ev wrote: »

Well guys whats the feeling for tomorrow evening firstly hope it goes ahead an awful forecast have been really impressed with some of yer new guys but haven't seen enough of them yet.

For what it's worth and I wouldn't be expecting many to travel from Waterford considering the weather plus it's live on tv but there have been big attendances at our home games so come early if travelling

Can anyone tell me what tv channel is showing this game...?

DiscoStew · 15-02-2020 12:01PM

Road-Hog wrote: »

Can anyone tell me what tv channel is showing this game...?

Eir Sport 1

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