NCT discontinue lift inspections (now with places with working lifts)

silver2020 wrote: »

again, pure scaremongering.

I didn't know that an Irish NCT was required to drive in Germany.Maybe their laws changed yesterday and I wasn't made aware of it.

Insurance companies have stated that it will not affect any claims but that the road worthiness of the vehicle is your responsibility. eg, if you have bald tyres, a NCT cert or not will not make a difference.

Pure scaremongering BS

A vehicle needs to be road legal in it's home country to be road legal in another EU country. The requirement for a valid test certificate is common across the EU. I wouldn't be too confident about convincing a foreign police officer 'arra, sure tis grand like, sure our own aren't too bothered with it. '

The minister could have put a temporary solution in place with the stroke of a pen but couldn't be bothered. The NI Infrastructure Committee could address the issue within a few days. Our government and the responsible minister have shown themselves to be either indifferent or incompetent or both.

FionnK86 wrote: »

Rang there & he said lifts weren’t back working in Northside 1 or 2 and to ring back Friday this time.

I did a test there yesterday in Northpoint 2 and lifts were working.

RandomViewer wrote: »

RSA should be pulling the contract now. APPLUS unfit for purpose

can you explain your statement.

APPPLUS don't make the lifts. MAHA of Germany do.

silver2020 wrote: »

Can you show me the regulation? - there is none.

Every country requires foreign visiting cars to have valid roadworthiness cert.

You can have a NCT cert and the car can be unroadworthy.

You can't drive an unroadworthy car anywhere. NCT cert or no NCT cert

You could get an NCT test cert today and your brake lights could go tomorrow - surely you are not saying that the car is then fine for driving because a piece of paper says so?

I agree that roadwortingess is different thing to valid roadworthiness test cert.
But it has no effect on requirement to have this cert while drivin abroad.

RandomViewer wrote: »

2 weeks now, MAHAor their agents will have lifts in stock, APPLUS very slow on ordering /replacing which I suspect is because they were hoping RSA would pay for them.
Before this when you called to book an NCT phone was answered after 2 rings and helpful person could arrange test straight away. Now the phone rings out or not at at all, if your lucky you'll finally get to talk to an Indian gentleman who'll offer to transfer your call to customer services, this will ring and ring until an automated message says they are busy and then loops around again. Handled badly ,needs to be sanctions of some kind

In all my years ringing nct I have yet to speak to someone with a foreign accent. The whole country is looking for lifts, north and south, the lifts would be installed if they were readily available.

barneygumble99 wrote: »

In all my years ringing nct I have yet to speak to someone with a foreign accent. The whole country is looking for lifts, north and south, the lifts would be installed if they were readily available.

In fairness they are taking appointments to test cars and charging people the full test fee even though they cant actually deliver the service they are charging for! I'm hoping this ridiculous treatment of paying customers doesn't spread to other providers. Imagine if you went into your local tyre provider and was charged the full cost of fitting 4 new tyres, handed a note to confirm that you has indeed bought new tyres but told to come back in a few weeks to have them fitted as all the operators were on holidays .. seriously ...

Don't know what the issue is with supply of lifts. They are available on eBay ffs..

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/2-Post-Car-Lift-4ton-Vehicle-Lift-Garage-Workshop-Ramp-Ultimate-Jack/153056158910

creedp wrote: »

In fairness they are taking appointments to test cars and charging people the full test fee even though they cant actually deliver the service they are charging for! I'm hoping this ridiculous treatment of paying customers doesn't spread to other providers. Imagine if you went into your local tyre provider and was charged the full cost of fitting 4 new tyres, handed a note to confirm that you has indeed bought new tyres but told to come back in a few weeks to have them fitted as all the operators were on holidays .. seriously ...

Ya can you imagine if you went in for a hair cut and charged for a full hair cut and they only done the sides and told they can't do the top because the lift on chair is broken and ring next week and see has it been fixed.

Updates in the media
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/85-of-countrys-106-nct-vehicle-lifts-found-to-be-in-need-of-repair-981864.html
and on the NCTS website
https://www.ncts.ie/1115

Eight lifts were approved to continue testing last week and 13 new lifts have been delivered and replaced defective lifts this week.

An action plan has been agreed with the lift manufacturer which will see lifts identified with defects repaired and brought back into service between now and the end of April. It is expected that 50% of test lanes will be operating by the end of March, with 100% of lifts returned to use by the end of April.

So by May they should be back to 100% capacity and with extra testers recruited and extended operating hours, be working through the backlog that has built up over the previous three months.

3rd world stuff, business can't or won't maintain it's equipment, makes it the customers problem.
Down in Deansgrange today I almost blew for having my time wasted.
Imagine booking a painter to come to your house and he shows up, paints the walls half way up and presents you with a bill.
But the walls are only painted half way up, when are you finishing it?
"I dunno, ring me, I'll see when it suits me."

And the RSA is advising people to go! Actually pandering to the dispute and having potentially unsafe cars on the road!
Just close the centre until it's fit for purpose, stop "Irishing" it and papering over the cracks.

Tea drinker wrote: »

3rd world stuff, business can't or won't maintain it's equipment, makes it the customers problem.
Down in Deansgrange today I almost blew for having my time wasted.
Imagine booking a painter to come to your house and he shows up, paints the walls half way up and presents you with a bill.
But the walls are only painted half way up, when are you finishing it?
"I dunno, ring me, I'll see when it suits me."

And the RSA is advising people to go! Actually pandering to the dispute and having potentially unsafe cars on the road!
Just close the centre until it's fit for purpose, stop "Irishing" it and papering over the cracks.

But what if the painter told you beforehand that he could only paint half the wall, and told you he wasn’t sure when he could complete the work, and had it on his website and all over the internet that he can only paint half the wall, but you went ahead with it anyway and then complained about it

Tea drinker wrote: »

3rd world stuff, business can't or won't maintain it's equipment, makes it the customers problem.
Down in Deansgrange today I almost blew for having my time wasted.

Anger management issues? Blow up at staff of a company due to an issue beyond their control? Good boy.

Suppose you also blow up at retail staff or restaurant staff is something is not to your liking.

If you were bothered to read about the issue you would know that a full service and inspection regime was in place undertaken by a third party. The cracks in the equipment were not noticeable unless you knew what you were looking for - once identified by the 3rd party inspection, lift were taken out of service.

3rd world stuff would be allowing equipment to be used knowing there was a dangerous fault.

Tea drinker wrote: »

Ha ha ha if they aren't checking the underbody and suspension it is VERY VERY unsafe - if suspenion fails it's potentially catastrophic. Two friends of mine were rammed after suspension failure on an oncoming car, both seriously injured.

can you give details of this incident - I'll guess it the usual catastrophe syndrome made up BS

It is....

Tea drinker wrote: »

Keep the excuses coming pal! Way to run a business, if they didn't have a government contract there would be no business! Lift maintenance and inspections were surely carried out by people "who knew what they were looking for" ?
Actually you are encouraging use of untested cars, and the people who have the government contract and "would know what to look for" are refusing to do so, for a month now?

If you don't (or pretend you don't) understand car safety and suspension in particular, why comment? My comment can be taken on the face of it by anyone who understands

So in terms of comms I had on this
No text
No email
No mention by staff on checking in

On the contrary I did receive a text and email confirming my appointment.

Newspapers last week said lifts were being returned to service.
Keep telling me that I'm the bad guy I LOVE IT! :pac:

pity you have the inability to read the newspapers or listen to radio or read their website. It states quite clearly that a small number of lifts are back working and priority is given to the motor trade and taxis. Maybe you didn't read past the first line?

Until the hairline crack was noticed in a lift in Northern Ireland last Nov, it had not been seen by anyone. It was initially thought to be safe to use until 20th January last when an independent insurance safety inspector deemed it unsafe and recommended that all lifts of this model not be used until,full safety audit undertaken

If you need to wait until an NCT test to find issues with your suspension, i advise you to understand that a car needs to be serviced regularly by a competent mechanic.



Maybe you would prefer an employee of an NCT centre be seriously injured or killed just so that you can get your suspension inspected an avoid having a competent mechanic service your car before such a test - that's effectively what you are looking to do.