new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

Scrabbles38 wrote: »

I think some people need to take a breath on this thread...

I agree we don’t know enough about this virus yet...
But let’s put this into prospective...

Armenia has what a population of 330+ million people..
This flu session 19+ million people got it...
180000+ people where hospitalised...
10000+ people died so far...

This new world killer virus, which is going to wipe us out..has so far in China ...
Which has a population of 1.5 billion ...
Has infected 60k+
And killed 1100+

I’m not saying this virus isn’t bad.. but take a breath people

One thing. You can choose (in this country) to get vaccinated against Influenza, and that should at least give you enough protection that it will not prove fatal or severe to you. Because of a long history of past health issues I get the vaccination, and at worst on the two occasions I have knowingly come in close contact with another with the full blown Influenza (not a coryzal cold) when I was struck within 36 hours by a high fever, muscle pains and cough it has literally been a 36-48 hour illness with a rapid recovery and indeed a sense of “gloating” at how I escaped the full whack of it.

And I have never confused a bad cold with influenza as I got the real thing 4 tines in my life during past outbreaks, eg 1968 Hong Kong Influenza. I never understand how people can lump them together as the symptoms are so different. During the 1968 outbreak I was 7 and living at hone with my parents as an only child, my brother having died as a 3 week old baby in 1958 during the Asian Influenza outbreak which also killed my mother’s cousin down the road. Indeed that cousin’s mother held my brother as he sorbet his last breath in the house. No phones to summon likes of s a n ambulance. My mother later gave me a vivid description of his illness and death, and it involved a lot of drowning in and expelling fluid in an infant who was born strong and robust. My mother had picked up the influenza in the Rotunda Hospital, when in those days people were routinely kept in a week opposing the birth.

In 1968 my parents and I got the influenza simultaneously, with my mother having a particular dread and horror of it. She phoned her sister in Bray to let her know, and she came to the outside of our south Dublin on the train and bus, leaving a parcel of food and toiletries in the porch, giving a signal three rings on the doorbell to let my mother know they had been left whilst my aunt retreated back home. Neither she nor her children picked up the virus. No mobile phones then, when she got back to her hone to Bray she phoned to check on us. My mother had managed to come down the stairs on her bum (too dizzy to stand) and retrieved the parcel. At the outset had phoned neighbours to advise them not to call to the front door. She had us all in quarantine for at least two weeks, until we were clear if it. So I could never e we confuse a common cold, however bad and chesty etc, with influenza.

I reckon too, with CoVid-19, there will be no mistaking it for a cold, and possibly not influenza as headache, prominent in flu, doesn’t seem to be so much the case with CoVid-19. Breathlessness seems to be more of a feature, even in milder cases, than in uncomplicated flu. I guess we all are going to have to get educated pretty damn quick about the differences as it will become important, as most cases will become clinical diagnoses, with the more aware patient contributing to the diagnostic process, especially from a position of self-imposed quarantine.

wakka12 wrote: »

8 new cases in Singapore

https://m.weibo.cn/status/4471547382826331
A 1 year old child has recovered from a critically ill condition they were the youngest critically ill coronavirus patient so far.

Singapore has first class medical care, and health & safety & hygiene is very high on the list of priorities at all times in that small country. It is an immaculate place. The death rate there would be a good indicator of what the best possible outcomes could be with this disease.