new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

wakka12 · 13-02-2020 01:30AM

Martina1991 wrote: »

Yes. Prioritising tests for those with more severe symptoms.

Sure, but still most days they were confirming 2500 or so cases daily, now and yesterday was 1500 or so. I assumed it was because cases were just going down but clearly not, and there are a lot more people to be tested. So they seem to have reduced capacity to test people

Ficheall · 13-02-2020 01:32AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Personally I feel I will be kind of waiting to get the dose, get it behind me, and be immune.

I thought immunity wouldn't be acquired?

fritzelly · 13-02-2020 01:32AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Without clinical diagnosis. Many of the deaths today were 'confirmed' as they are assumed to have died from coronavirus, not actually tested. Only 107 deaths were actually tested positive for the virus.

Yeah reread the report but still 107 confirmed with coronavirus doesn't mean they are not all as a result
Not sure it's a good way to look at it saying more than half of all deaths today might have been coronavirus but were not gonna bother testing for it.
Knowing how the Chinese report deaths from flu I'm leaning towards they are all corona related

Drumpot · 13-02-2020 01:32AM

On nhs website it says :

Because it's a new illness, we do not know exactly how coronavirus spreads from person to person.

But they can confidently say

While the risk to people in the UK is low, these steps can help reduce the possible spread of infection.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/

So they don’t know yet how it’s spread but are happy to profess the risk to people in the UK is low ... I don’t mind people saying the risk is low, once it’s backed up with even a snippet of information that explains why it is low... This is my issue, a sort of “just STFU and take our word for it” approach.

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus.html

Something similar on HSE website but in fairness they don’t appear to say the risk is low.

13-02-2020 01:34AM

Will clinical diagnosis be used for the cured figure does anyone know?

wakka12 · 13-02-2020 01:36AM

Yes I recall HSE saying risk was 'moderate' ,as opposed to 'low' a few weeks ago, odd that it is higher than the risk is perceived to be in the UK when the UK has several cases of h2h transmissions across the country now. CDC also recently said risk to Americans was low but now has today declared that community epidemics are inevitable and imminent

igCorcaigh · 13-02-2020 01:55AM

https://twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1227757464017424384?s=19

wakka12 · 13-02-2020 01:55AM

48,206 Reported Cases in Hubei, 33,693 of which have required hospitalization=
70%.
https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-12-20-intl-hnk/h_396b02146384936e397a3735177ec217

13-02-2020 01:56AM

Ficheall wrote: »

I thought immunity wouldn't be acquired?

Really I don’t quite know. My understanding would be that you might hopefully get immunity once you have had the wretched dose of Covid-19, but that if it mutated then you would not be immune to that mutation.

Watched a UK program the other day about a theoretical pandemic on a model created using volunteers and their mobile phones to assess how a pandemic airborne virus could spread from patient zero, the presenter of the documentary. Such a spread was demonstrated to be exponential in this day of easy travel. The superspreaders were said to simply be persons who were in relatively close contact with a lot of other people, eg supermarket check-out assistants.

igCorcaigh · 13-02-2020 01:57AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Will clinical diagnosis be used for the cured figure does anyone know?

Don't know, but I guess when the PCR test for viral load becomes undetectable?

Anyone?

13-02-2020 01:58AM

70% of people didn't "require" hospitalisation.. That's how many were hospitalised.

ObiTwoKenobi · 13-02-2020 01:59AM

Ficheall wrote: »

I thought immunity wouldn't be acquired?

Medcram's latest video talks about this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqZYEgREuZ8

4068ac1elhodqr · 13-02-2020 02:03AM

60,000+ global confirmed cases? Unless that's a typo, someone may want to call the big red phone at the CDC/WHO and tell em to get their fingers out?
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
The biggest single day jump to date. 44-60k? Still assuming the quick 16k jump (China) is a error.

13-02-2020 02:05AM

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

60,000+ global confirmed cases? Unless that's a typo, someone may want to call the big red phone at the CDC/WHO and tell em to get their fingers out?
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
The iggest single day jump to date. 44-60k? Still assuming the quick 16k jump (China) is a error.

They're including clinical diagnosis now and are adjusting previous figures as a result.

cnocbui · 13-02-2020 02:11AM

Martina1991 wrote: »

Sounds like the CDC rushed the manufacturing of the kits. All reagents should have been validated and audited before shipping worldwide.
Poor practice.

The US has lost it's Mojo.

CDC mistakenly removes San Diego’s first positive coronavirus case from hospital
Kalitta-Friday.jpg
...
Infected patient was cleared by CDC, then returned to UC San Diego Health
By Paul Sisson
Feb. 10, 2020
5:37 PM

A botched test result from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention allowed an evacuee infected with the coronavirus to leave a San Diego hospital Sunday after initially being told by the CDC that they were in the clear.

The situation is detailed in a brief statement released by UC San Diego Health Monday evening, which says that all four quarantine patients admitted to its isolation units after arriving from China last week were discharged back to quarantine quarters at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar after the CDC shared with caregivers that their coronavirus tests came back negative.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/story/2020-02-10/san-diego-county-has-firt

ObiTwoKenobi · 13-02-2020 02:16AM

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

60,000+ global confirmed cases? Unless that's a typo, someone may want to call the big red phone at the CDC/WHO and tell em to get their fingers out?
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
The biggest single day jump to date. 44-60k? Still assuming the quick 16k jump (China) is a error.

Let's hope it's a correction and not a new daily increment.

YFlyer · 13-02-2020 02:29AM

ardinn wrote: »

Youtubes tags on john are gone arseways! - Impossible to embed!

Doc John

Is he in China? Seem to be inside the whole time.

bodhrandude · 13-02-2020 02:35AM

Ex-Towie star Harry Derbridge's fiancee tested for coronavirus. Hahaha trust the Sun to dig up a story about an infected celebrity.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10949374/towie-harry-derbridges-fiance-coronavirus/

Kermit.de.frog · 13-02-2020 02:38AM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1227767195268153344

Latest lockdown represents area of almost 3.5 million people.

4068ac1elhodqr · 13-02-2020 02:39AM

ObiTwoKenobi wrote: »

Let's hope it's a correction and not a new daily increment.

Some new 'measurement/classification criteria' of presumed cases it seems. However much of the media is already running with the 'x10 fold daily increase' headline.

Just more crisis and communication mis-management, from China.

13-02-2020 02:40AM

Everytime, I look at this thread. I wonder if I'm in conspiracy theories. So much false information. Still about 2/10 on the worried scale and I've more to be worried about as I work on the frontline and won't be able to hide at home.if the worst was to happen.

fritzelly · 13-02-2020 02:42AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1227767195268153344

Latest lockdown represents area of almost 3.5 million people.

Thank god for that - for a while there I was thinking this was getting serious

YFlyer · 13-02-2020 02:46AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1227767195268153344

Latest lockdown represents area of almost 3.5 million people.

That Patrick Kline fella seems to be well behind with lockdown time.

fritzelly · 13-02-2020 03:25AM

This isn't worrying at all - over 2 weeks later finally tested positive after having symptoms
Are we letting lots of infected people out in to the wild? Why is China locking down more areas? Are we really being told the truth?
Dan Brown needs to get writing!

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1227777126922948608

bodhrandude · 13-02-2020 03:43AM

fritzelly wrote: »

This isn't worrying at all - over 2 weeks later finally tested positive after having symptoms
Are we letting lots of infected people out in to the wild? Why is China locking down more areas? Are we really being told the truth?
Dan Brown needs to get writing!

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1227777126922948608

Now that's scary, I believe I might of highlighted that before from a different report that it took four tests to confirm someone positive. No wonder China has the situation it has. I don't know if its related to the US story of faulty kits, but I do believe China had also complained to the CDC as well about them.

theguzman · 13-02-2020 04:14AM

fritzelly wrote: »

This isn't worrying at all - over 2 weeks later finally tested positive after having symptoms
Are we letting lots of infected people out in to the wild? Why is China locking down more areas? Are we really being told the truth?
Dan Brown needs to get writing!

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1227777126922948608

Possibly she caught it after her initial tests? (hopefully).

13-02-2020 05:59AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Hygiene and medical standards are very different these days (in certain places).

First world countries have huge rates of underlying health problems due to obesity these days. We are also older on average.

While back in the days of working = manual labor people were fitter, stronger. They didn't have antibiotics sure and a heart attack meant certain death. But that doesn't matter because in an overwhelmed health system you get access to zero of our modern health advances.

BanditLuke · 13-02-2020 07:48AM

MD1990 wrote: »

This gives us little confidence in WHO as well as China.

Maybe Ireland should go into lockdown now even with no case yet

Would have been the smart thing to do weeks ago. We had a very good chance of beating this as a small island. RTE spent 22 seconds talking about this last night on the news let that sink in for a minute.

VinLieger · 13-02-2020 08:06AM

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

60,000+ global confirmed cases? Unless that's a typo, someone may want to call the big red phone at the CDC/WHO and tell em to get their fingers out?
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
The biggest single day jump to date. 44-60k? Still assuming the quick 16k jump (China) is a error.

Nope its correct, China finally adjusted their reporting to add people who havent been tested but show symptoms as well as opening a new larger testing facility, 14k of that is in Hubei alone. The WHO arrived there yesterday so some of this is their doing as well to try and get chinas numbers into line.

Sean 18 · 13-02-2020 08:11AM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Would have been the smart thing to do weeks ago. We had a very good chance of beating this as a small island. RTE spent 22 seconds talking about this last night on the news let that sink in for a minute.

Shocking that RTÉ are completely ignoring this most of the older population won't think there's a problem when they won't hear it on the news

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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