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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • Posts: 13,842 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What foodstuffs would you stock up on for something like this anyway?

    Lemons and cloves and mixed nuts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Whats up with media personally naming the british 'super spreader', youd think he was doing it on purpose the way its being reported. Pictures of the guy up all over skynews..wtf?

    My guess is, they cant say 'if you were in contact with him you may have picked up the disease'

    If you used the same toilet, same door handle, same gym, handled the same money, breathed the same air, you could be unlucky and pick up the bug .. the list is endless..

    Cant say that out loud, that would spook the cattle.. so they broadcast his name and let people get worried if they know him and they get flu like symptoms, then they report in.

    And how come they say he is a super spreader? Maybe hes the norm?
    Im guessing they are re-evaluating the Ro factor of this virus now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    What foodstuffs would you stock up on for something like this anyway?

    Rice and pulses from the local Chinese store.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,275 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Some of the stuff on this thread.

    You'd swear the health service in this country was the worst in the world. Our bed rates are similar to many other developed countries, we have hospitals staffed by doctors, nurses and allied professionals who are genuinely the finest in the world. We have massive success in treating acute illness from heart attacks, to trauma to stroke. Our maternal mortality rates are second to none.

    We have an issue with access to low to moderate acuity OPD services and lack of appropriate step-down care. Yes if it comes it will be far from ideal, but we will deal with it. We have options too with the network of private hospitals if we have to improve capacity greatly. If we cancelled elective procedures and opened private hospitals to the less severe patients we would be in a far from hopeless situation.

    The sense of schadenfreude and complete pseudo science and putting 2 and 2 together and getting 7000 on this thread is mad to be honest.

    Could you list some actual numbers?
    This just reads like a HSE press release, any post that uses a phrase like "Genuinely the finest in the world" cannot be taken seriously.
    Bit like the Irish rugby team were genuinely the finest in the world until they got to an actual world cup.

    I don't know how you can possibly say "we will deal with it" when you don't know what "it" is.

    What's the expected number of cases here requiring acute hospital treatment and what's our capacity?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    If we can free up beds in private hospitals in the case of emergency then why the **** aren’t we enacting those powers for the trolley crisis we currently have?

    What do we do in an emergency then, when the beds we could've freed up are no longer free?


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  • Posts: 13,842 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    What do we do in an emergency then, when the beds we could've freed up are no longer free?

    If someone is getting treated in a hospital ward rather than waiting on a trolley. They will get better faster and go home freeing that bed up again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,459 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,012 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    What foodstuffs would you stock up on for something like this anyway?

    There is a guy on youtube who reviews the MREs issued to various countries militaries. Some of them are comprised of pretty much standard commercially available stuff you can get in any supermarket - Just have a look at his reviews to get some ideas.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Me personally - baked beans, chocolate, flour, pasta, chicken to freeze, vitamins, baby formula, cooking oil, lentils. Use by dates of november or later on all of the above. Based on shelf life, what my family will actually eat, price. We have a lot of room for storage. I don't think it's a great list really but it's something.

    Also cleaning supplies including personal hygiene stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,459 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Rice and pulses from the local Chinese store.

    :D:D:D:D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Where do the people go that are currently in bed/trolleys, will they get turfed out?
    Bear in mind any isolation type pod/area requires extra space and resources.

    Suppose they could lash up a couple of new hospitals in 10days or so, like the Chinese had to?

    Reality is any major outbreak, it would be a case of 'self-isolate' have a radio nearby for updates, and get weekly drop off of tinned/dry soup packs.
    Then again folks will head to mass/supermarket without a passing thought, and not even bother to sneeze COVID-19 into their elbows nor wash hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭auspicious


    Me personally - baked beans, chocolate, flour, pasta, chicken to freeze, vitamins, baby formula, cooking oil, lentils. Use by dates of november or later on all of the above. Based on shelf life, what my family will actually eat, price. We have a lot of room for storage. I don't think it's a great list really but it's something.

    Also cleaning supplies including personal hygiene stuff.

    Not saying we'll need them, surely not outside the cities...chickpeas , kidney beans and black beans have higher nutritional content.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    What do we do in an emergency then, when the beds we could've freed up are no longer free?

    An emergency is an emergency, we can't put a pause on a highly contagious Coronavirus while pat down the road lets his hernia stitches heal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,012 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Where do the people go that are currently in bed/trolleys, will they get turfed out?
    Bear in mind any isolation type pod/area requires extra space and resources.

    Suppose they could lash up a couple of new hospitals in 10days or so, like the Chinese had to?

    Reality is any major outbreak, it would be a case of 'self-isolate' have a radio nearby for updates, and get weekly drop off of tinned/dry soup packs.
    Then again folks will head to mass/supermarket without a passing thought, and not even bother to sneeze COVID-19 into their elbows nor wash hands.

    Ha, ha - the idea for the Children's hospital was floated around 1996? This country couldn't possibly build a hospital in 10 years, let alone 10 days. Perhaps 15 years if it was an acute emergency.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    auspicious wrote: »
    Not saying we'll need them, surely not outside the cities...chickpeas , kidney beans and black beans have higher nutritional content.
    Yeah chickpeas are on my mental list. Kidney beans are a good idea as well. I have lots of baked beans because my kid love them; goes through a pot or two a day. One good thing about them as a general emergency store item is that you can eat them cold in a pinch, though that's not really relevant to this situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Ha, ha - the idea for the Children's hospital was floated around 1996? This country couldn't possibly build a hospital in 10 years, let alone 10 days. Perhaps 15 years if it was an acute emergency.

    But it wasn't really a hospital the Chinese built, it was a large collection of prefabs joined together.
    Although I'm not claiming Ireland would be capable of doing that in less than a few years either.


  • Posts: 13,842 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No wonder you’re always going on about poo’s and farts if you’re eating that many baked beans!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    No wonder you’re always going on about poo’s and farts if you’re eating that many baked beans!
    Funny the first time. The third time not so much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Yeah chickpeas are on my mental list. Kidney beans are a good idea as well. I have lots of baked beans because my kid love them; goes through a pot or two a day. One good thing about them as a general emergency store item is that you can eat them cold in a pinch, though that's not really relevant to this situation.

    This country is full of morons and it has pandered to every lowlife subhuman scum we have.

    Gangs out of control shooting each other break-ins junkies with hundreds of convections.

    If you stock up on food and all the shops are shut you will just be robbed unless you can defend it.

    Best to hook up with an ex law enforcement man and a small group of people and hold up on a ranch and lock all the infected into the barn.

    Be on the lookout for a scary looking fu**er with a baseball bad covered in barbed wire.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    How long would you plan on staying in the house without leaving for food?
    Anything up to one month and the only real concern is having enough calories and clean water.
    If you plan on longer then yes, a good variety of vitamins and minerals will be needed.


  • Posts: 13,842 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Funny the first time. The third time not so much.

    Well that’s you off the list of who I’ll invite to Leitrim. Even Coronavirus doesn’t know it exists!

    :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,750 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Has anyone heard of re-tests on the suspected cases here?



    I know they were negative which is good but the information coming out is that a further test is needed after a few days as the first doesn't show the virus in many cases.


    The statement re the virus spreading being limited and the way the Moscow flight case was handled does not inspire confidence in our capacity to cope here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    This country is full of morons and it has pandered to every lowlife subhuman scum we have.

    Gangs out of control shooting each other break-ins junkies with hundreds of convections.

    If you stock up on food and all the shops are shut you will just be robbed unless you can defend it.

    Best to hook up with an ex law enforcement man and a small group of people and hold up on a ranch and lock all the infected into the barn.

    Be on the lookout for a scary looking fu**er with a baseball bad covered in barbed wire if you see him it will be pee pee pants time.

    Edit being serious there is nothing we can do to stop this thing so why worry?
    Yeah I think if things get to that point it's better to organize a group of people you trust, get dogs, or some projectile weaponry - if there is anything both legal and effective without a lot of training.
    Plenty of bigger and more visible targets than us anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,878 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Yeah I think if things get to that point it's better to organize a group of people you trust, get dogs, or some projectile weaponry - if there is anything both legal and effective without a lot of training.
    Plenty of bigger and more visible targets than us anyway.

    They will be too busy raising Lidl.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    They will be too busy raising Lidl.

    When they target Marks and Sparks that is when our elite will worry.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,713 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    :D:D:D:D:D:D

    There be endless supplies. Most folks be too paranoid to enter the store.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    YFlyer wrote: »
    There be endless supplies. Most folks be too paranoid to enter the store.

    You come in the Wong shop.:D


    I know I am making jokes but serious question what can governments do to stop this I mean really?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 247 ✭✭car_radio19834




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45



    Was his nose getting longer while he was speaking?


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