new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

odyssey06 · 10-02-2020 10:50PM

littlemac1980 wrote: »

I've only watched the first couple minutes, but I believe the BAD NEWS is that China have now reported that the virus can spread by Aerosilization. Can't imagine the rest of the video could gets worse than that. That's official reporting from China (per John - who has been prudent with his sources) so most likely accurate. If true that is a huge blow to any effort to contain this.

Australian expert urges caution on that claim...
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/claims-coronavirus-can-spread-through-the-air

Scary if true. Means someone sneezes, droplets mix with air and stay airborne and can be inhaled by someone else... we might get lucky that the inhaled dose isnt strong enough to trigger infection.

marvin80 · 10-02-2020 10:51PM

littlemac1980 wrote: »

I've only watched the first couple minutes, but I believe the BAD NEWS is that China have now reported that the virus can spread by Aerosilization. Can't imagine the rest of the video could gets worse than that. That's official reporting from China (per John - who has been prudent with his sources) so most likely accurate. If true that is a huge blow to any effort to contain this.

Hopefully it's not. Here's a link saying its not:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/wuhan-virus-coronavirus-aerosol-transmission-moh-12418446

marvin80 · 10-02-2020 10:54PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Watch it and make your own mind up.

Panic isn't ideal but understandable. Preparation is key but all i see here in Ireland is stupid memes on Whatsapp that think the virus is something to laugh about, it's not. This is deadly serious and i stand by my earlier comments that it has the potential to collapse the world economy.

I suppose for the likes of you and your hysteria it's a win-win situation.

If it does escalate as much as you think you can tell everyone you're right.
If it doesn't you can say 'aren't you glad it didn't'.

What preparation should we be doing?

All I see in this thread is panic and hysteria over something the average person has no control over.

Hopefully it doesn't escalate but if it does - panic and hysteria will not help.

BanditLuke · 10-02-2020 11:02PM

marvin80 wrote: »

I suppose for the likes of you and your hysteria it's a win-win situation.

If it does escalate as much as you think you can tell everyone you're right.
If it doesn't you can say 'aren't you glad it didn't'.

What preparation should we be doing?

All I see in this thread is panic and hysteria over something the average person has no control over.

Hopefully it doesn't escalate but if it does - panic and hysteria will not help.

I won't tell anyone im right.

Can you point out the panic and hysteria when you get the chance.

cameramonkey · 10-02-2020 11:03PM

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/wuhan-coronavirus-malaysia-discharged-patients-chinese-nationals-12417750

Martina1991 · 10-02-2020 11:05PM

I wish people would stop dropping youtube clips and tweets into the thread.

Neither are usually credible sources and just cause panic.

BanditLuke · 10-02-2020 11:07PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

I wish people would stop dropping youtube clips and tweets into the thread.

Neither are usually credible sources and just cause panic.

Are CNN credible?

https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-10-20-intl-hnk/index.html

car_radio19834 · 10-02-2020 11:16PM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1226992621035364352

fritzelly · 10-02-2020 11:18PM

How many confirmed that are now not included in confirmed?
Another day of death increase and a big jump again in serious/critical
Is that working out about a 5 increase every day in the reported deaths?

Call Me Jimmy · 10-02-2020 11:19PM

It seems people are panicking about people panicking without evidence. It's a discussion thread, posting stuff (even some of the bat-**** crazy stuff that I'm not interested in) doesn't equate to panicking. I think we're all roughly of similar intelligence and can use our noggins.

odyssey06 · 10-02-2020 11:21PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Are CNN credible?
https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-10-20-intl-hnk/index.html

Its somewhat reassuring that it looks like the americans evacuated from Wuhan are negative after 10 days.

laurah591 · 10-02-2020 11:21PM

car_radio19834 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1226992621035364352

So has the number of new cases from Hubei falling today? anyone have yesterday's figures or know the suspected figure for a comparative.

Also is anyone tracking daily movements (suspected/confirmed/serious etc) just looking for source if someone knows one. I have BNO on Twitter and Worldometer which I find useful

Thanks

So 5k less suspected today with only 2k confirmed.... does that mean 3k were falsely suspected?

car_radio19834 · 10-02-2020 11:24PM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1226994921137152003

BanditLuke · 10-02-2020 11:25PM

Pretty amazing to see the effort the Chinese are making to disinfect the streets of Wuhan.

laurah591 · 10-02-2020 11:26PM

fritzelly wrote: »

How many confirmed that are now not included in confirmed?
Another day of death increase and a big jump again in serious/critical
Is that working out about a 5 increase every day in the reported deaths?

I read somewhere that patients which test positive but are asymtopic are not included in daily figures so im not sure if this results in delayed reporting.

I'd also like to see if that death rate begins to creep in provinces other that Hubei which have over 1000 patients.

SeaBreezes · 10-02-2020 11:26PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Meanwhile this is NOT good news

https://youtu.be/6HCRmTHCUao

People still seem unwilling to accept how serious this is.

Poor Dr John gets a little more depressed in every video.

josip · 10-02-2020 11:36PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

I'm starting to really worry about this ...

Worry not Hector.

By the 7th of June Rafa will be picking up No 13 and all will be well with the world.

BanditLuke · 10-02-2020 11:41PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Poor Dr John gets a little more depressed in every video.

Yeah a few posters on boards know more about this than a guy like Dr. John.

Maybe just maybe you know he's worried for a reason.

Fr_Dougal · 10-02-2020 11:48PM

Yesterday’s death rate was 2.25%, today is 2.37%.

Doesn’t sound as if this is levelling off.

cloudatlas · 10-02-2020 11:50PM

I'm wondering what will close my work first snow or the coronavirus or both? How many times should you use one of those masks. For example the 3m ones?

bilston · 10-02-2020 11:54PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Yesterday’s death rate was 2.25%, today is 2.37%.

Doesn’t sound as if this is levelling off.

500 fewer confirmed cases today in Hubei Province though. Although I wonder if the range of 2000-2500 is just the maximum number that can be confirmed everyday due to restrictions on testing facilities.

Then again if there are significantly more cases than the 43,000 that have been confirmed then presumably the mortality rate is a lot lower than 2.4%

cameramonkey · 11-02-2020 12:01AM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Yesterday’s death rate was 2.25%, today is 2.37%.

Doesn’t sound as if this is levelling off.

If everyone is in lock down for the last few week then I suppose the over all infection rate should start to come down fairly soon. The spread should be limited and the number testing positive should start reducing. Those who have the virus already may still be going through the critical stages when many develop pneumonia so the numbers being very ill and dying may not drop off so quickly. Dr John says this critical stage is reached at about 9 or 10 days. But as less enter the infection pipeline at the other end then these more critically sick people numbers may start to drop off maybe 10 or 15 days later. We shall see. The number of new infections is more important as a guide to see how the outbreak is progressing or not.

hmmm · 11-02-2020 12:01AM

cloudatlas wrote: »

I'm wondering what will close my work first snow or the coronavirus or both? How many times should you use one of those masks. For example the 3m ones?

Once only, so unless you have an infinite supply probably best to leave them for health workers or if you are coughing.

The problem (apparently) is that once you use them outside they become potentially contaminated, so when you take them off you are touching the contaminated mask, and the last thing you want to do is put it back on. For many people also a proper well-fitting mask is uncomfortable, so they end up touching their face more than they would otherwise.

laurah591 · 11-02-2020 12:01AM

bilston wrote: »

500 fewer confirmed cases today in Hubei Province though. Although I wonder if the range of 2000-2500 is just the maximum number that can be confirmed everyday due to restrictions on testing facilities.

Then again if there are significantly more cases than the 43,000 that have been confirmed then presumably the mortality rate is a lot lower than 2.4%

Suspected cases also seem to be lower compared to yesterday 23k instead of 28k... maybe is tapering off...still seems like its got some way to run given the lenght of time from when symptoms appear to case resolution (recovery or otherwise)...

Now that extended New Year has ended... have the major cities gone back to work or are they under quarantine... this is surely going to have significant impact on global supply chains with ripple effects everywhere.

Unreg0909 · 11-02-2020 12:02AM

Is it correct that because Dublin airport has no direct flights to China, that no one travelling into Ireland is being screened etc at the airport? How are they going to be able to trace/track this then

laurah591 · 11-02-2020 12:06AM

Unreg0909 wrote: »

Is it correct that because Dublin airport has no direct flights to China, that no one travelling into Ireland is being screened etc at the airport? How are they going to be able to trace/track this then

Asking people to self declare ..... monkey covers eyes .... and not turn up at A&E or GPs waiting room :eek::eek::eek:

lolanacho · 11-02-2020 12:07AM

A school in Southampton has been closed after students were put in isolation over coronavirus fears.

St Mary’s Independent School in Bitterne Park is on lockdown, and pupils have been evacuated, according to the Bournemouth Echo.

Some of the children at the school were reportedly struck down with symptoms similar to those of the virus, and put in isolation after being assessed by medical professionals at Southampton General Hospital.

St Mary’s, which is in contact with Public Health England, will remain closed for deep cleaning.

The Echo reported a statement sent to parents from headteacher Claire Charlemagne said:

“I am sorry to inform you that a family with children at the prep and senior departments who have recently travelled to the region affected by coronavirus have developed symptoms similar to those presenting with the coronavirus, and having been checked by medical professionals at Southampton General Hospital have been placed in isolation.”

fritzelly · 11-02-2020 12:08AM

bilston wrote: »

500 fewer confirmed cases today in Hubei Province though. Although I wonder if the range of 2000-2500 is just the maximum number that can be confirmed everyday due to restrictions on testing facilities.

Then again if there are significantly more cases than the 43,000 that have been confirmed then presumably the mortality rate is a lot lower than 2.4%

There's less confirmed because unless you show symptoms you are not classed as confirmed anymore
This now makes a mockery of the suspected figure - what is the point unless they show symptoms
If the numbers were not fudged before they are now totally fudged

s7ryf3925pivug · 11-02-2020 12:09AM

hmmm wrote: »

Once only, so unless you have an infinite supply probably best to leave them for health workers or if you are coughing.

The problem (apparently) is that once you use them outside they become potentially contaminated, so when you take them off you are touching the contaminated mask, and the last thing you want to do is put it back on. For many people also a proper well-fitting mask is uncomfortable, so they end up touching their face more than they would otherwise.

Yeah there's a guide on WHO on how to use them. You're not supposed to touch the outside at all; remove it from the back.

What about sterilizing them with UV, in a pinch?

fritzelly · 11-02-2020 12:11AM

Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »

What about sterilizing them with UV, in a pinch?

Wouldn't matter as they would become clogged with dirt and other particulates

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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