new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

Steve F · 10-02-2020 01:45PM

Gynoid wrote: »

So far I am not worried, because what is the point. But I have become quite conscious of just how many surfaces I touch that have probably recently been touched by many others. Unless I finally sucçumb to my living in a space suit fantasy, and everyone else joins in, I conclude we are all gonna die.

Agree...live your life one day at a time
However it's the lack of personal hygiene that gets me.:eek:

GooglePlus · 10-02-2020 01:46PM

I had heard that this thing is adapted for cold/dry climate and that it should hinder dramatically in China when their hot season comes in but if it's spreading in Singapore right now, that hope is fecked.

wakka12 · 10-02-2020 01:47PM

Seventh patient in Singapore now critical out of total 45 confirmed

WrenBoy · 10-02-2020 01:51PM

Flying out to a ski resort in France the weekend, hearing about 4 britons who contracted the virus in a nearby resort has dampened my excitement somewhat :eek:

BanditLuke · 10-02-2020 01:56PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Seventh patient in Singapore now critical out of total 45 confirmed

That's worrying. Iv'e heard the official numbers coming out of China may be claptrap this would lead me to believe that to be true.

10-02-2020 01:58PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

I had heard that this thing is adapted for cold/dry climate and that it should hinder dramatically in China when their hot season comes in but if it's spreading in Singapore right now, that hope is fecked.

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058047651/348/#post112488840
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-30/is-there-a-lower-incidence-of-cold-and-flu-infections-in-tropics/10381902
Probably want to be in a hot desert right now with no air conditioning

cnocbui · 10-02-2020 02:08PM

Gynoid wrote: »

So far I am not worried, because what is the point. But I have become quite conscious of just how many surfaces I touch that have probably recently been touched by many others. Unless I finally sucçumb to my living in a space suit fantasy, and everyone else joins in, I conclude we are all gonna die.

Presumably at least 85% of people recover, so no, we aren't all going to die. :rolleyes:

Mic 1972 · 10-02-2020 02:10PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Seventh patient in Singapore now critical out of total 45 confirmed

the numbers make sense, 1 out of 5 on average dies. At least so far

cnocbui · 10-02-2020 02:18PM

Steve F wrote: »

"Hand washing is essential during this outbreak"

God help us all if that's the case...my experience of my fellow human beings...I would elaborate but its approaching lunchtime....Errrghh!!

Do people not understand what an airborne virus means? I'm not having a go at you, but unfortunately just washing hands may not cut it.

Gynoid · 10-02-2020 02:22PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Presumably at least 85% of people recover, so no, we aren't all going to die. :rolleyes:

It was a joke

Obviously not a great one.
But now you are telling me 15% of us are all gonna die......AAaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

Mic 1972 · 10-02-2020 02:27PM

Gynoid wrote: »

It was a joke Obviously not a great one.
But now you are telling me 15% of us are all gonna die......AAaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

more likely 20% so far

Gynoid · 10-02-2020 02:30PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

more likely 20% so far

Oh I was so tempted to make a bold Greta joke, but look at how good I am being!

Anyways, I hope to goodness this is not the invisible foe that does for us.

10-02-2020 02:32PM

Chatting about vaping at bias here and one of the guys mentioned the virus. That big cloud of vape that you all hate is actually a visual representation of what your breath is always doing. Ain't escaping that easily.

saabsaab · 10-02-2020 02:37PM

Unless it starts to die back soon i.e. in the next 2 months this is starting to look like the predicted 'big one' like 1918/19 flue pandemic. No good news on this really yet.

Steve F · 10-02-2020 02:42PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Do people not understand what an airborne virus means? I'm not having a go at you, but unfortunately just washing hands may not cut it.

I know where you are coming from and yes I also know you are not having a go but lack of hand washing will accelerate the spread also if I am not mistaken :eek:

whiskeyman · 10-02-2020 02:44PM

If the incubation period is longer than 14 days, it's going to be a cagey 2 weeks or so ahead of us.

Mic 1972 · 10-02-2020 02:44PM

saabsaab wrote: »

Unless it starts to die back soon i.e. in the next 2 months this is starting to look like the predicted 'big one' like 1918/19 flue pandemic. No good news on this really yet.

the thing is, how is this going to die down? at the moment it's spreading and there is no cure

RebelButtMunch · 10-02-2020 02:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Chatting about vaping at bias here and one of the guys mentioned the virus. That big cloud of vape that you all hate is actually a visual representation of what your breath is always doing. Ain't escaping that easily.

What about farts, you can smell them on the other side of the gaff!

RebelButtMunch · 10-02-2020 02:49PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

the thing is, how is this going to die down? at the moment it's spreading and there is no cure

Yet

wakka12 · 10-02-2020 02:50PM

saabsaab wrote: »

Unless it starts to die back soon i.e. in the next 2 months this is starting to look like the predicted 'big one' like 1918/19 flue pandemic. No good news on this really yet.

Yeh it really looked as though it was going to be contained by China there for a bit. But right now it appears as though it actually is a pretty nasty little bug and will become pandemic. Weird that it would be almost exactly 100 years since the last major pandemic

Dave0301 · 10-02-2020 02:56PM

A GP practice in Brighton has been temporarily closed after a staff member tested positive for the coronavirus.

It is on BBC News now. That could very easily be passed on to any patients that have been into that practice and brought home afterwards.

s7ryf3925pivug · 10-02-2020 02:56PM

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

Yet

We won't find a cure because we don't generally find cures for viruses.

We probably will be able to vaccinate against it in the same sort of limited way that we can against flu.

I think there is a real possibility of profound change in society in response to this virus if it becomes as established as it looks like it might.

s7ryf3925pivug · 10-02-2020 02:59PM

This keeps going through my head recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AW4nSq0hAc

I didn't get that manbearpig was about climate change the first time they did it.

Mic 1972 · 10-02-2020 03:07PM

Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »

We won't find a cure because we don't generally find cures for viruses.

We probably will be able to vaccinate against it in the same sort of limited way that we can against flu.

I think there is a real possibility of profound change in society in response to this virus if it becomes as established as it looks like it might.

Sadly, that's what i'm expecting too

BanditLuke · 10-02-2020 03:11PM

Dave0301 wrote: »

A GP practice in Brighton has been temporarily closed after a staff member tested positive for the coronavirus.

It is on BBC News now. That could very easily be passed on to any patients that have been into that practice and brought home afterwards.

It's going to run rampant through the UK imo. Can't believe the lack of talk about it here in Ireland. It's not panic or tinfoil hat stuff when you look at the state of our health service here to be worried about it.

Drumpot · 10-02-2020 03:12PM

Are there any available statistics that show this is more potent or likely to lead to death then the regular flu?

What is the normal flu mortality rate v the corona virus? Since we can’t trust China’s figures I presume we don’t really know yet....

marvin80 · 10-02-2020 03:13PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

the thing is, how is this going to die down? at the moment it's spreading and there is no cure

People are recovering from it as well - you're making it sound like anyone that gets it dies.

This applies to some of the ridiculous stuff being spouted by idiots in this thread:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51429400

wakka12 · 10-02-2020 03:17PM

Drumpot wrote: »

Are there any available statistics that show this is more potent or likely to lead to death then the regular flu?

What is the normal flu mortality rate v the corona virus? Since we can’t trust China’s figures I presume we don’t really know yet....

Yes, seasonal flu 0.1%, coronavirus 2%. This has been the estimate for over a month now from a wide range of sources incl WHO and CDC so I assume it it based on the outcome of a large sample of patients over a relatively long period and takes other variable factors into account. It is theorised that the mortality rate may be inflated artificially by milder cases going unrecorded but it seems unlikely now as anyone with flu symptoms in China is obliged by law now to report to a hospital, and you need an ID card to buy cold medication.

Mic 1972 · 10-02-2020 03:22PM

Drumpot wrote: »

Are there any available statistics that show this is more potent or likely to lead to death then the regular flu?

What is the normal flu mortality rate v the corona virus? Since we can’t trust China’s figures I presume we don’t really know yet....

There is a real time update available online that reports on total people infected, deaths and recovered people
at the moment 80% of people have recovered and 20% died

wakka12 · 10-02-2020 03:23PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

There is a real time update available online that reports on total people infected, deaths and recovered people
at the moment 80% of people have recovered and 20% died

What? Both are wrong. Nowhere near 20% have died and nowhere near 80% have recovered.
The vast majority of cases are still 'ongoing', neither recovered nor likely to die

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/
In china, 40.1k cases, 3280 have recovered = 8%
908 have died = 2.2%
6450 experiencing severe complications =16%

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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