new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

Kermit.de.frog · 09-02-2020 04:59AM

bodhrandude · 09-02-2020 05:09AM

This came up in my Facebook feed the other day.

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09-02-2020 10:02AM

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/novel-coronavirus-cases-in-singapore

Detailed info on each of the 40 cases in Singapore

ThePopehimself · 09-02-2020 11:08AM

Live95 News Team
Four suspected cases of coronavirus at UHL tested negative
Sunday, February 9th, 2020 9:30am

“It's been confirmed that the four suspected cases of coronovirus at University Hosptial Limerick have all tested negative.
The test results were confirmed last night.

However it's understood that there are now a further two suspected cases of the virus at the hospital after two individuals were referred to the hospital with symptoms and fitting the necessary criteria to be tested.
They have been isolated and the results of their tests should be known later today.”

tara73 · 09-02-2020 11:08AM

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/novel-coronavirus-cases-in-singapore

Detailed info on each of the 40 cases in Singapore

that's the right way of dealing with it, give out information on the internet about the whereabouts from all infected for everybody to check whether having been in the vicinity with somebody of them.

wouldn't expect any less effectivity from the singapore authorities..:)

09-02-2020 11:12AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Live95 News Team
Four suspected cases of coronavirus at UHL tested negative
Sunday, February 9th, 2020 9:30am

“It's been confirmed that the four suspected cases of coronovirus at University Hosptial Limerick have all tested negative.
The test results were confirmed last night.

However it's understood that there are now a further two suspected cases of the virus at the hospital after two individuals were referred to the hospital with symptoms and fitting the necessary criteria to be tested.
They have been isolated and the results of their tests should be known later today.”

Anyone know if they were tested for influenza etc to rule other things out

s7ryf3925pivug · 09-02-2020 11:37AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone know if they were tested for influenza etc to rule other things out

I dunno but apparently you can get tests for flu that give results in 10-15 minutes. While someone could have both diseases at once, waiting until they actually identify the disease someone has as well as testing negative for coronavirus might be a good idea. Best to work on the assumption that the reports of false negatives are genuine until confirmed otherwise.

gozunda · 09-02-2020 11:50AM

The University of Limerick announced last week it had suspended travel to and from China amid coronavirus fears

Apparently the University there has suspended all ‘university-related’ travel by all staff and students to and from China, due to the coronavirus outbreak.

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/512690/university-of-limerick-suspends-travel-to-and-from-china-amid-coronavirus-fears.html

MadYaker · 09-02-2020 11:50AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Anyone know if they were tested for influenza etc to rule other things out

If the HSE say they’re negative I think we just have to take them at their word. It’s good news but I still think there’ll be a few cases here at some point.

gozunda · 09-02-2020 11:57AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Anyone know if they were tested for influenza etc to rule other things out

Good news is that rates of influenza have been decreasing over the last couple of weeks

https://www.hpsc.ie/news/title-19463-en.html

wakka12 · 09-02-2020 11:59AM

Seven relatives in Hong Kong infected. Shared a dinner with two infected chinese people. 20 people at the dinner
https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f157cg/7_confirmed_new_cases_in_hong_kong_all_were/

6 more people positive for virus on the Japanese ship.Dozens more passengers have fallen ill since and will be tested
https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f154oa/japananother_6_cases_of_wuhan_coronavirus_have/

Half of transmissions occur during asymptomatic incubation phase
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/02/255501851d48-half-of-secondary-virus-infections-occur-in-incubation-period-study.html

It seems remarkably infectious, it is incredibly surprising how few infections have occurred outside asia

Some good news though 2650 people have now recovered in China from the virus. Over three times as many as those who have died

biko · 09-02-2020 12:06PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51409800

Another 41 people on a cruise ship off the coast of Japan have tested positive for the new coronavirus, bringing the total number of cases on board to 61.

Some 3,700 people are on board the Diamond Princess, which is quarantined in Yokohama for at least two weeks.

The checks began after an 80-year-old Hong Kong man who had been on the ship last month fell ill with the virus.

Just the flu, officials grabbing citizens for transport away.
https://t.co/3fPU5ta6AM

gozunda · 09-02-2020 12:09PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Seven relatives in Hong Kong infected. Shared a dinner with two infected chinese people. 20 people at the dinner
https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f157cg/7_confirmed_new_cases_in_hong_kong_all_were/

6 more people positive for virus on the Japanese ship.Dozens more passengers have fallen ill since and will be tested
https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f154oa/japananother_6_cases_of_wuhan_coronavirus_have/

Half of transmissions occur during asymptomatic incubation phase
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/02/255501851d48-half-of-secondary-virus-infections-occur-in-incubation-period-study.html

It seems remarkably infectious, it is incredibly surprising how few infections have occurred outside asia

Some good news though 2650 people have now recovered in China from the virus. Over three times as many as those who have died

Afaik - mathematical modelling of the spread of infectious disease requires a critical number of infected people before rates of infection start to rise. Additionally spread of the disease outside Asia has been of a potentially shorter timeframe - with first case in Wuhan was early to mid December as far as I'm aware.

Regarding death and recovery rates - one issue seems to be with the first detected cases getting full medical intervention and resources until resources and staff reach a point where full care cannot be guaranteed. Much as has apparently happened in Wuhan etc where medical resources have been overrun.

wakka12 · 09-02-2020 12:17PM

4th case in England. Related to the recent cases in France
https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f177ye/4th_confirmed_case_in_england/

MadYaker · 09-02-2020 12:41PM

Interesting how it spreads much faster in Asia than Europe. Still only 5 in the UK. Less population desity?

09-02-2020 12:51PM

MadYaker wrote: »

Interesting how it spreads much faster in Asia than Europe. Still only 5 in the UK. Less population desity?

Hopefully it's more than just time as the differentiator

Martina1991 · 09-02-2020 12:57PM

Deleted User wrote:

Anyone know if they were tested for influenza etc to rule other things out

All samples sent to the NVRL for suspected Coronavirus testing receive a seasonal respiratory virus panel as well as testing for Coronavirus.

wakka12 · 09-02-2020 12:57PM

MadYaker wrote: »

Interesting how it spreads much faster in Asia than Europe. Still only 5 in the UK. Less population desity?

Yes but also takes a long time as Gozunda pointed out. There were only a few dozen confirmed cases in Wuhan for weeks in December and early january, 2/3 of the total cases were confirmed in just the last week alone. Though it is thought that the feast of 100,000 families in Wuhan is what kickstarted such exponential growth

lolanacho · 09-02-2020 01:02PM

One of the Brits in Mallorca has tested positive (the father), the case is related to the guy that came back from Singapore and went to the French Ski Resort, so far he’s passed the virus to 7 people, five are still in France, one went back to England and this one that lives in Mallorca. (All friends).

News from The Mallorca Bulletin

Son Espases Hospital confirmed on Sunday morning that a man suspected of having coronavirus does indeed have it. His wife and two daughters have proved negative.

The results of tests at the National Microbiology Centre in Madrid were received by the hospital in the early hours of Sunday morning.

The four members of the British family are in an isolation unit at Son Espases.

Fernando Simón, the director of the centre for the coordination of health alerts and emergencies, explained in Madrid on Sunday morning that the patient was infected at a ski resort in France, adding that although he has tested positive, he is otherwise in decent health. The case is described as mild. Efforts are being made to identify all contacts he may have had and to give these people "adequate monitoring".

wakka12 · 09-02-2020 01:10PM

Japan nearly the first country to reach 100 infections outside China, though 2/3 of them are on the ship so are contained and quaratined.

drunkmonkey · 09-02-2020 01:13PM

biko wrote: »

Just the flu, officials grabbing citizens for transport away.

Maybe there needed to help build swimming pools..

https://twitter.com/SETUSFREE2047/status/1226386947066646528?s=20

wakka12 · 09-02-2020 02:36PM

I saw a reddit thread that showed a heat map of Chinese cities and Wuhan was producing very significantly more Co2 emissions than all other cities. It was theorised that it was because of burning so many bodies. But I think it sounds pretty far fetched. Does anyone have any other theories?

givyjoe · 09-02-2020 02:44PM

wakka12 wrote: »

I saw a reddit thread that showed a heat map of Chinese cities and Wuhan was producing very significantly more Co2 emissions than all other cities. It was theorised that it was because of burning so many bodies. But I think it sounds pretty far fetched. Does anyone have any other theories?

Lots of extra folks at home all the time burning extra fossil fuels, trying to stay warm.

Its actually an increase in sulphur dioxide, not C02, which is due to organic matter being burned, if those readings are correct.

gozunda · 09-02-2020 02:48PM

wakka12 wrote: »

I saw a reddit thread that showed a heat map of Chinese cities and Wuhan was producing very significantly more Co2 emissions than all other cities. It was theorised that it was because of burning so many bodies. But I think it sounds pretty far fetched. Does anyone have any other theories?

Saw this earlier.

https://twitter.com/inteldotwav/status/1226267582740811777?s=20[url][/url]

wakka12 · 09-02-2020 02:54PM

Increasing number in Singapore. 3 more now, with no travel history to China, total 43.
Two more patients have become critical, 6 total now
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/wuhan-coronavirus-singapore-new-confirmed-cases-feb-9-12412622
That is almost 15% severe complication rate in a country with extremely good healthcare and a relatively small number of patients and follows a more similar trend that has been observed in China.
But the outcome of the huge sample on the Japanese ship will really help to accurately determine how dangerous the disease is, especially because any mortality or morbidity rate cannot be artificially inflated by mild cases going unnoticed in this instance

BanditLuke · 09-02-2020 03:06PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Increasing number in Singapore. 3 more now, with no travel history to China, total 43.
Two more patients have become critical, 6 total now

That is almost 15% severe complication rate in a country with extremely good healthcare and a relatively small number of patients and follows a more similar trend that has been observed in China.
But the outcome of the huge sample on the Japanese ship will really help to accurately determine how dangerous the disease is, especially because any mortality or morbidity rate cannot be artificially inflated by mild cases going unnoticed in this instance

If it takes off in Singapore or god forbid Beijing all bets are off for the world economy.

cnocbui · 09-02-2020 03:12PM

I hope the testing kits in the West are better than those being used in China. There were reports that 30-40% were false negatives on initial testing.

VinLieger · 09-02-2020 03:20PM

cnocbui wrote: »

I hope the testing kits in the West are better than those being used in China. There were reports that 30-40% were false negatives on initial testing.

Thats due to the virus and not the test kits, theres reports of the same happening in Germany and the US

bodhrandude · 09-02-2020 03:24PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Thats due to the virus and not the test kits, theres reports of the same happening in Germany and the US

That's what worries me about the unconfirmed Irish cases that it takes a few tests to establish a positive result sometimes.

wakka12 · 09-02-2020 03:28PM

Heard some tests in China showed negative until the 4th and 5th tests

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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