new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

hurikane wrote: »

A high dose of the virus? Is it like radiation exposure or what?

I guess they mean if say you were in the same room as an infected person for a minute you may have only received a small number of viruses but say you were in close contact for a few hours with an infected person you would have received a very large number of viruses and your system would find it hard to deal with it.

tom1ie wrote: »

All due respect but that’s just your opinion.
We need concrete, globally agreed stats on how infectious this disease is, the mortality rate and what demographics are most at risk.
Otherwise we are just guessing.
Tbh I’m erring on the side of caution and getting extra supplies in so I don’t have to que up with the public if panic buying does set in like it has in Singapore.
Might be something to consider.

As of now that is not available so the best is informed guessing. These accurate stats will be available when it is all over.

odyssey06 wrote: »

You probably have a very high chance of survival if (a) you receive hospital treatment such as ventilation and (b) you are not exposed to a high dose of the virus.

In China, it looks like people are dying because the medical facilities are overloaded and it looks like medical staff are dying because they are being exposed to so much of the virus.

You likely won't even need hospital treatment. Most of the people who get the virus don't end up in hospital, they have symptoms for a few days and they get better. This is the most likely outcome if you're not an at risk person (old, new born, sick etc)

In China people who think they have the virus are are panicking, presenting at hospital and overloading the infrastructure. Most of these people have some other sickness like a common cold or some other virus as the symptoms are similar.

saabsaab wrote: »

As of now that is not available so the best is informed guessing. These accurate stats will be available when it is all over.

So what’s the best course of action?
Prepare for the worst and hope for the best?

tom1ie wrote: »

So what’s the best course of action?
Prepare for the worst and hope for the best?

The best course of action is just get on with your life and stop worrying about this. We'll probably have a case or two here at some stage but it's not the end of the world ffs. If you want info get it from the HSE or the WHO, not social media or anywhere else.

tom1ie wrote: »

So what’s the best course of action?
Prepare for the worst and hope for the best?

I guess at this point is to limit exposure to the public especially in cities. If you have to i.e. face to face then get hand gels and stay back or wear a mask.

MadYaker wrote: »

You likely won't even need hospital treatment. Most of the people who get the virus don't end up in hospital, they have symptoms for a few days and they get better. This is the most likely outcome if you're not an at risk person (old, new born, sick etc)

In China people who think they have the virus are are panicking, presenting at hospital and overloading the infrastructure. Most of these people have some other sickness like a common cold or some other virus as the symptoms are similar.

The longer this goes on without a sudden increase in cases or an increase in people presenting to hospitals with pneumonia all around the world, the more likely this scenario seems to be.

cnocbui wrote: »

It would seem so:

One of the most worrying things to pop today was a German researcher saying Coronaviruses can last up to 9 days on surfaces. That might have relevance to people ordering stuff online.

The other worry is that one infected person on a cruise ship in Japan has lead to 62 people being infected so far. Japanese health officials say that an infected person can be infectious for days before exhibiting symptoms.

Maybe in pitch darkness and perfect conditions a virus could maybe survive for that long (in that german mans lab no doubt). UV radiation (sunlight) breaks down the viruses genetic material and kills them pretty quick. Most transmissions are through direct physical contant or someone coughing / sneezing on you and you breath that in etc. You'd be unlucky to get it off a door handle or whatever but it is possible.

leavingirl wrote: »

I hear the spread of the coronavirus is slowing down. In a few weeks everyone will have forgotten about it. What a total fake!

I hope you are right but another site says 65M dead before this ends!

saabsaab wrote: »

The count?

Election?

What do people expect the HSE to say exactly?

tom1ie wrote: »

All due respect but that’s just your opinion.
We need concrete, globally agreed stats on how infectious this disease is, the mortality rate and what demographics are most at risk.
Otherwise we are just guessing.
Tbh I’m erring on the side of caution and getting extra supplies in so I don’t have to que up with the public if panic buying does set in like it has in Singapore.
Might be something to consider.

I think you should err on the side of caution, especially if you or close family are in the groups so far identified as being most at risk.

This is boards.ie this is where you come to for best guesses when there isn't globally agreed information on something... we're all just reading between the lines here based on the dubious though large amounts of data from China & the small amount of reliable data from other locations.

MadYaker wrote: »

Maybe in pitch darkness and perfect conditions a virus could maybe survive for that long (in that german mans lab no doubt). UV radiation (sunlight) breaks down the viruses genetic material and kills them pretty quick. Most transmissions are through direct physical contant or someone coughing / sneezing on you and you breath that in etc. You'd be unlucky to get it off a door handle or whatever but it is possible.

You must be in Australia, mate; where I am, the UV index is 0, there's no sunlight to speak of and its grey, cold and damp.