new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

fritzelly · 08-02-2020 05:38PM

WHO working with Youtube, Facebook etc to remove all "fake" videos/information and provide truth tellers channels to get the information out
One could also read that as controlling the truth coming out by these small youtubers - who does that remind you of?

Oranage2 · 08-02-2020 05:39PM

Wow that sounds like the ending to the movie the mist

saabsaab · 08-02-2020 05:41PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

There's a lack of understanding here about the whole process of testing and diagnosis.

Sample transport, sample preparation, DNA extraction, Rt-PCR, result reporting. These things take time.

The laboratory's duty is first and foremost to the patient; confidentiality of their results which are then reported back to the hospital. The patients doctors will then isolate and treat them. If it's a matter of public concern, the appropriate services will be informed.

The public will be the last to know, and they should be.

In the light of a probable pandemic I would have no doubt that it is!

Martina1991 · 08-02-2020 05:42PM

Ficheall wrote:

Doctor, doctor, I think I'm going to break my leg on Saturday?

Well its a virus reference lab so no.

But if samples require testing at the NVRL that cannot wait until monday, when the lab is open for routine service, then they have to contract the lab so the scientists can process the specimens ASAP.

Oranage2 · 08-02-2020 05:43PM

I see millions going back to Shanghai as their work will open on Monday.

jackboy · 08-02-2020 05:43PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

There's a lack of understanding here about the whole process of testing and diagnosis.

Sample transport, sample preparation, DNA extraction, Rt-PCR, result reporting. These things take time.

The laboratory's duty is first and foremost to the patient; confidentiality of their results which are then reported back to the hospital. The patients doctors will then isolate and treat them. If it's a matter of public concern, the appropriate services will be informed.

The public will be the last to know, and they should be.

The public should be informed of these procedures. Some people will always panic but simple and honest communication is best to minimize rumors.

Martina1991 · 08-02-2020 05:45PM

saabsaab wrote:

In the light of a probable pandemic I would have no doubt that it is!

The patients still have a right to their privacy. And have not yet been confirmed as having the virus.

The public arent owed hour by hour updates.

saabsaab · 08-02-2020 05:51PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

The patients still have a right to their privacy. And have not yet been confirmed as having the virus.

The public arent owed hour by hour updates.

No one is asking for their names. It is now more that 24 hours and as the public ultimately pay for these services they most definitely have the right.

08-02-2020 05:53PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

I see millions going back to Shanghai as their work will open on Monday.

I got a tentative request for me to return to work. I refused outright. Safe working environment is in my contract. Then I was offered a raise. haha. nope. Move on, please.

Oranage2 · 08-02-2020 06:05PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I got a tentative request for me to return to work. I refused outright. Safe working environment is in my contract. Then I was offered a raise. haha. nope. Move on, please.

I can't see parents being happy with that, college kids might have to go back but stay in their dorms and wearing face masks.

odyssey06 · 08-02-2020 06:11PM

saabsaab wrote: »

No one is asking for their names. It is now more that 24 hours and as the public ultimately pay for these services they most definitely have the right.

Especially when one considers that with an outbreak like this the public are all potential patients.

gozunda · 08-02-2020 06:12PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

There's a lack of understanding here about the whole process of testing and diagnosis.

Sample transport, sample preparation, DNA extraction, Rt-PCR, result reporting. These things take time.

The laboratory's duty is first and foremost to the patient; confidentiality of their results which are then reported back to the hospital. The patients doctors will then isolate and treat them. If it's a matter of public concern, the appropriate services will be informed.

The public will be the last to know, and they should be.

Testing for the 2019-nCoV is undertaken at the National Virus Reference Laboratory in Dublin

3. All samples will receive a seasonal respiratory virus panel and a 2019-nCoV specific RT-PCR
4. Estimated turnaround time is 12 to 24 hours
5. For same day results samples must arrive at the NVRL by 10am on weekdays
6. Weekend testing is ONLY by arrangement with the NVRL clinical scientist on call using the out of hours contact number as per the HPSC algorithm. The sample MUST arrive before 2 pm to get a result that day.

https://nvrl.ucd.ie/node/209

Martina1991 · 08-02-2020 06:22PM

gozunda wrote:

Testing for the 2019-nCoV is undertaken at the National Virus Reference Laboratory in Dublin

Yes i know.
I posted the same info a few posts back.

bodhrandude · 08-02-2020 06:24PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

Yes i know.
I posted the same info a few posts back.

Do you work for the HSE by any chance

.

Moomoomacshoe · 08-02-2020 06:25PM

Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »

People are scoffing at me but someone else is also buying up hygiene and safety equipment in the local shops. Got the last two disposable ffp3 masks on the shelves around here and the last sealed safety goggles. Noticed the 60%+ alcohol gels have all gone since I stocked up on them. Found some other masks online which I ordered but no idea how well they'll fit. [The ones I got are the same as ones I've used for DIY.] Glad of my decision to keep the old freezer in the garage when we got a new one.

UHL is generally terrible but I'd trust them to be strict about isolation protocols. They have a less gentle culture than most hospitals here.

All masks appear to be out of stock i cant seem to find any would you mind DM me where you ordered from? Thanks

wakka12 · 08-02-2020 06:27PM

Scrabbles38 wrote: »

SARS mortality rate is 10% that does not change from country to country

So then why did it vary by country? Canada 250 cases, 17.1% mortality, Vietnam 63 cases, 7.1% mortality rate, Taiwan 346 cases , 10% mortality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome

The average was ten percent, but varied considerably by country

s7ryf3925pivug · 08-02-2020 06:32PM

Moomoomacshoe wrote: »

All masks appear to be out of stock i cant seem to find any would you mind DM me where you ordered from? Thanks

All gone now sorry.

cnocbui · 08-02-2020 06:35PM

This thread is going to make a winter snow thread look like a practice run.

Boggles · 08-02-2020 06:44PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Canada had 251 cases the US had 27 so not comparable when one had ten times the infections, also what were the demograohics of either group? Theres no point in trying to break these down by region as theres far too many variables.

China was 6.6 and Hong Kong was 17.

The posters claim was nonsense.

Kermit.de.frog · 08-02-2020 06:48PM

Five British people infected at French ski resort. From the Telegraph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/08/coronavirus-uk-news-latest-virus-outbreak-china/

Five British people have been diagnosed with coronavirus in France after being infected during a skiing holiday, the country's health minister has said.

The victims, one of whom is a child, were staying in the same ski resort chalet and were infected when one of the group came into contact with someone who had been in Singapore, Agnes Buzyn said this morning.

They are in a stable condition and being constantly monitored at an unnamed hospital in the eastern Haute-Savoie Alpine region of southeastern France.

VinLieger · 08-02-2020 06:50PM

wakka12 wrote: »

So then why did it vary by country? Canada 250 cases, 17.1% mortality, Vietnam 63 cases, 7.1% mortality rate, Taiwan 346 cases , 10% mortality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome

The average was ten percent, but varied considerably by country

No the mortality was 10%, breaking it down by region like you are trying to do is pointless as there are far too many variables to consider.

Martina1991 · 08-02-2020 07:01PM

bodhrandude wrote:

Do you work for the HSE by any chance .

I do.

I dont mean to come across as dismissive or even a bit agressive.

My point is we all need to be patient. The public will be informed when they need to be. I know there's a lot of distrust with the HSE but when you or your loved one is sick its all we have.

jackboy · 08-02-2020 07:12PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

I do.

I dont mean to come across as dismissive or even a bit agressive.

My point is we all need to be patient. The public will be informed when they need to be. I know there's a lot of distrust with the HSE but when you or your loved one is sick its all we have.

So radio silence from the HSE. Yet members of the HSE are on a message board discussing the issue and the procedures for dealing with it.

odyssey06 · 08-02-2020 07:16PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Five British people infected at French ski resort. From the Telegraph

I am reminded from the press conference earlier in this week when Interim Director of the Health Protection Surveillance Centre Dr John Cuddihy said the ability of the virus to transmit from person to person is limited.

<insert image of ostrich with head in sand here>

saabsaab · 08-02-2020 07:29PM

This may turn out to be a major health crisis if the test labs aren't working on this today they ought to be.

s7ryf3925pivug · 08-02-2020 07:29PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

I am reminded from the press conference earlier in this week when Interim Director of the Health Protection Surveillance Centre Dr John Cuddihy said the ability of the virus to transmit from person to person is limited.

<insert image of ostrich with head in sand here>

This is technically true but meaningless. Almost everything is limited. If someone could infect everyone within 100km, it would still be "limited".

amor3 · 08-02-2020 07:33PM

I'm sure I read it here, but wasn't it mentioned by the HSE that they will not be making any comments unless they get a positive result?

So no news is good news, right?

tuxy · 08-02-2020 07:38PM

Well someone must be making some kind of statements to the media because they were able to report that the test in Cork was negative.

brick tamland · 08-02-2020 07:38PM

amor3 wrote: »

I'm sure I read it here, but wasn't it mentioned by the HSE that they will not be making any comments unless they get a positive result?

So no news is good news, right?

Id imagine its much more likley to be just a couple of lads with the sniffles than anything more sinister. Here's hoping anyway

Gynoid · 08-02-2020 07:39PM

jackboy wrote: »

So radio silence from the HSE. Yet members of the HSE are on a message board discussing the issue and the procedures for dealing with it.

The HSE is not the Politburo. She is just contextualising things as a private person.

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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