new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

old_aussie · 07-02-2020 04:11AM

Deleted User wrote: »

41 new cases confirmed overnight on the cruise ship currently docked in Japan. Went from 20 to 61 in one jump
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-07/massive-spike-of-coronavirus-cases-on-board-cruise-ship/11943302

If it's spreading through the aircon, then the ships passengers and crew are doomed.

Keeping them in their separate rooms isn't going to work.

ceadaoin. · 07-02-2020 04:29AM

old_aussie wrote: »

If it's spreading through the aircon, then the ships passengers and crew are doomed.

Keeping them in their separate rooms isn't going to work.

Yeah cruise ships seem to be the ideal location for viruses to spread. How often do we hear about ships being decimated by norovirus or similar?

Why dont they just take them off and quarantine them elsewhere? If anything it could stop even more people becoming infected

ardinn · 07-02-2020 04:30AM

old_aussie wrote: »

If it's spreading through the aircon, then the ships passengers and crew are doomed.

Keeping them in their separate rooms isn't going to work.

Aircon doesnt work like that - it isnt one system - I worked in a lot of hotels and your looking at 1 unit per 2/3 rooms - Literally the roof was like an ariel view of electric picnic replacing tents with AC compressor units.

I could be wrong for a ship however but a singular A/C unit for 3000 odd rooms would be fúcking huge! like - massive!

This would be typical

However, it does beg the question how its actually done on a ship.

bodhrandude · 07-02-2020 04:46AM

An article speculating why North Korea has been silent during this outbreak. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/06/asia/north-korea-wuhan-coronavirus-infection-intl-hnk/index.html

BumperD · 07-02-2020 05:36AM

bodhrandude wrote: »

An article speculating why North Korea has been silent during this outbreak. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/06/asia/north-korea-wuhan-coronavirus-infection-intl-hnk/index.html

In fairness there is an easy explanation. It’s a closed border so doesn’t have the open traffic others experience so I’d imagine a little less prone to imported disease. Don’t believe everything you read on CNN

A_Lost_Man · 07-02-2020 05:41AM

Many people are wondering what this outbreak is and many are feared and why it outbreak in china why not other country and now happening in other countries. Actually the point china's population is increasing and their resources are vanishing and they knew if they could not control population one day they are going to die due to over population and they test the virus on Wuhan population but sadly the scheme goes wrong. It is actually the same story of 'AMC walking dead'

bodhrandude · 07-02-2020 05:45AM

BumperD wrote: »

In fairness there is an easy explanation. It’s a closed border so doesn’t have the open traffic others experience so I’d imagine a little less prone to imported disease. Don’t believe everything you read on CNN

Can't help it, reading a lot of things.

Oranage2 · 07-02-2020 05:58AM

North Korea closed it's borders very quickly, also the tourists that go would have very little contact with the main population in North Korea.

Graces7 · 07-02-2020 06:13AM

Busy night on here.

I am not reading or watching anything on this apart from here. Seems so much junk and misinfo.

HSE seem to be coping and will cope if folk are sensible and aware, as we are. Awareness is the key.
Hope for the best and prepare for the worst..

As someone said, we have Storm Ciara of immediate concern in all its unpredictability. so today that is at the epicentre here as more news comes in.

Mask up; get stocks in of all you need, just in case as they will always be needed at some stage.

Graces7 · 07-02-2020 06:18AM

bodhrandude wrote: »

Can't help it, reading a lot of things.[/QUOTE

So stop reading! Get out for a walk.

Reminds me of 9/11. I was online in an American egroup, chatting with a friend who is a journalist when the planes hit. I was on a Scottish island far from it all and folk in the US needed support. So I spent 36 hours online, then ducked when our one flight a week went over and closed down.

I never saw any film of the crash; nothing I could do . Folk were getting PTSD from watching the news... Same here now; fully aware of it and care deeply but nothing much I can do. Except pray.

Take care of YOU.

ardinn · 07-02-2020 06:18AM

Graces7 wrote: »

HSE seem to be coping and will cope if folk are sensible and aware, as we are. Awareness is the key.
Hope for the best and prepare for the worst..

Not enough people are aware unfortunately.

My local pub is full of aul lads and aul wans, none of them on SM (probably better off) but the 4 mins or so airtime rte gave them is not enough to prepare.

The amount of people coughing and spluttering around the place, you never notice until your paranoid.

Graces7 · 07-02-2020 06:22AM

ardinn wrote: »

Not enough people are aware unfortunately.

My local pub is full of aul lads and aul wans, none of them on SM (probably better off) but the 4 mins or so airtime rte gave them is not enough to prepare.

The amount of people coughing and spluttering around the place, you never notice until your paranoid.

Nothing you can do except care for you and your family. We are in ordinary flu season after all. Many refuse to take heed; China had the right idea. Enforced quarantine.

The spread here will be slow if it happens.

humberklog · 07-02-2020 08:39AM

wakka12 wrote: »

I wonder have gyms been forcibly closed in some asian countries like singapore and vietnam?

In Vietnam schools are closed for the rest of this month other than that there's very very little obvious measures taken. Hotel and other service staff are to wear masks but that wouldn't be hugely uncommon

There's a big drop off in Chinese tourists especially in resortish areas such as Hoi An (where I am now) but there's still loads about mingling in bars and markets. They're all wearing masks.
I'm only wearing a mask when doing airports. There was a pretty good V. government text saying be careful as masks are grand but lead to complacency with regards other essential hygiene measures like washing hands.

Funny (not funny) thing. I was watching Chinese tourists browsing a menu in very busy bar. No mask. His finger rooting around his nose and then passing menu onto Oh then menu passed back to staff and on it goes. You can only do so much but cleaning, hands is top priority

07-02-2020 08:43AM

humberklog wrote: »

In Vietnam schools are closed for the rest of this month other than that there's very very little obvious measures taken.

It's only until next Friday in some parts of the country like HCM. Officially, I'm back in school next Monday in Hanoi though people expect that will likely change and there will be another week off.

ChikiChiki · 07-02-2020 09:02AM

Graces7 wrote: »

Busy night on here.

I am not reading or watching anything on this apart from here. Seems so much junk and misinfo.

HSE seem to be coping and will cope if folk are sensible and aware, as we are. Awareness is the key.
Hope for the best and prepare for the worst..

As someone said, we have Storm Ciara of immediate concern in all its unpredictability. so today that is at the epicentre here as more news comes in.

Mask up; get stocks in of all you need, just in case as they will always be needed at some stage.

HSE are not coping as is. Forgive us for having little faith in them.

A shambles of an organisation.

We are watching it closely at work from a global risk perspective and I do think the seriousness of it has completely fallen under the radar here with the elections. Prevention measures should be in place and well underway.

VinLieger · 07-02-2020 09:21AM

ardinn wrote: »

Not enough people are aware unfortunately.

My local pub is full of aul lads and aul wans, none of them on SM (probably better off) but the 4 mins or so airtime rte gave them is not enough to prepare.

The amount of people coughing and spluttering around the place, you never notice until your paranoid.

Indeed the first thought of any of them will be to go to a GP or A and E which is exactly what not to do but there has been nowhere near enough messaging to ram this home and explain the reasons for it

circadian · 07-02-2020 09:21AM

humberklog wrote: »

In Vietnam schools are closed for the rest of this month other than that there's very very little obvious measures taken. Hotel and other service staff are to wear masks but that wouldn't be hugely uncommon

There's a big drop off in Chinese tourists especially in resortish areas such as Hoi An (where I am now) but there's still loads about mingling in bars and markets. They're all wearing masks.
I'm only wearing a mask when doing airports. There was a pretty good V. government text saying be careful as masks are grand but lead to complacency with regards other essential hygiene measures like washing hands.

Funny (not funny) thing. I was watching Chinese tourists browsing a menu in very busy bar. No mask. His finger rooting around his nose and then passing menu onto Oh then menu passed back to staff and on it goes. You can only do so much but cleaning, hands is top priority

Some people are wilfully ignorant and some people are just outright ignorant. It's stunning sometimes to see it so blatantly.

On the other hand, there's a cracking rice pancake place around the Bá Lễ area. Some great Pho places on the way out of town too.

car_radio19834 · 07-02-2020 09:27AM

ardinn wrote: »

Aircon doesnt work like that - it isnt one system - I worked in a lot of hotels and your looking at 1 unit per 2/3 rooms - Literally the roof was like an ariel view of electric picnic replacing tents with AC compressor units.

I could be wrong for a ship however but a singular A/C unit for 3000 odd rooms would be fúcking huge! like - massive!

This would be typical

However, it does beg the question how its actually done on a ship.

Those units don't supply air, the remove heat.

It's a closed system. There's basically just a pipe going from the rooftop to the room and the pipe removes the heat with air recirculated from the room blown over it.

cadaliac · 07-02-2020 09:48AM

car_radio19834 wrote: »

Those units don't supply air, the remove heat.

It's a closed system. There's basically just a pipe going from the rooftop to the room and the pipe removes the heat with air recirculated from the room blown over it.

Reports from the ship that state that there is no air - I guess meaning no air con or HVAC.
The guy in question said that the inner cabins have no windows and people in those cabins are granted some time on deck for fresh air.
Also mentioned that the passengers are to remain 1 meter apart.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51409800

bilston · 07-02-2020 09:59AM

We might get a better idea of the true spread of this virus from the cruise ship. Unfortunately by nature most passengers on a cruise are likely to be a bit older and therefore potentially more susceptible to more serious effects from the virus.

Fr_Dougal · 07-02-2020 10:01AM

No update from Ben Kavanagh in two days...

circadian · 07-02-2020 10:05AM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

No update from Ben Kavanagh in two days...

Updated on twitter, all good so far. I guess there's not much to make a video on at this point.

wakka12 · 07-02-2020 10:15AM

A passenger on the Japanese cruise with coronvirus is in a critical condition
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/videonews/ann?a=20200207-00000021-ann-soci

wakka12 · 07-02-2020 10:18AM

https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1225633449140031488?s=21
Zhejang becomes the first outside Wuhan to have 1000 infections

https://twitter.com/DavidInglesTV/status/1225620055729131521?s=09
First case in North korea

sweetie · 07-02-2020 10:20AM

A_Lost_Man wrote: »

Many people are wondering what this outbreak is and many are feared and why it outbreak in china why not other country and now happening in other countries. Actually the point china's population is increasing and their resources are vanishing and they knew if they could not control population one day they are going to die due to over population and they test the virus on Wuhan population but sadly the scheme goes wrong. It is actually the same story of 'AMC walking dead'

STEP away from the Keyboard.....

IspeakcozIcan · 07-02-2020 10:21AM

circadian wrote: »

Updated on twitter, all good so far. I guess there's not much to make a video on at this point.

What's his Twitter handle? Would like to folow him.

Graces7 · 07-02-2020 10:24AM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

HSE are not coping as is. Forgive us for having little faith in them.

A shambles of an organisation.

We are watching it closely at work from a global risk perspective and I do think the seriousness of it has completely fallen under the radar here with the elections. Prevention measures should be in place and well underway.

Such as? We can each and all protect ourselves . Stay away from eg pubs, crowded places.. Wear a mask if you have to mix. Stock up.

They are dealing with cases as they arise. Do you think we should all be quarantined. or what ?

If you go to www.breakingnews.ie and at the top. see coronavirus... plenty going on and there will be more planned. Not panic measures. See the wedding photos!

odyssey06 · 07-02-2020 10:28AM

An Post suspends all mail to China...
https://www.thejournal.ie/an-post-china-wuhan-coronavirus-post-mail-4996327-Feb2020/

In a statement, An Post said that “all mail services have been suspended to China as a result of the Coronavirus with immediate effect”.
“This follows the decision by a number of international airlines to suspend their services,” the short statement added.

sweetie · 07-02-2020 10:34AM

odyssey06 wrote: »

An Post suspends all mail to China...
https://www.thejournal.ie/an-post-china-wuhan-coronavirus-post-mail-4996327-Feb2020/

In a statement, An Post said that “all mail services have been suspended to China as a result of the Coronavirus with immediate effect”.
“This follows the decision by a number of international airlines to suspend their services,” the short statement added.

t'would be the mail from china i'd be more concerned about

07-02-2020 10:35AM

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/coronavirus-outbreak-alert-upped-to-orange-as-more-cases-surface-with-no-known-links-more

Not good, more cases in Singapore but don't know the source

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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