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NIMAN · 06-02-2020 11:40PM

Baby brought to Altnagelvin Hospital in Derry tonight with symptoms.

Recently returned from Far East.

Perhaps just a standard illness or flu? i had heard earlier tonight but sometimes you hear a lot of nonsense on FB locally, but the Belfast Telegraph have picked it up.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/baby-tested-for-suspected-coronavirus-at-northern-ireland-hospital-38934516.html

laurah591 · 06-02-2020 11:41PM

https://www.derryjournal.com/news/suspected-case-of-deadly-coronavirus-in-young-baby-at-altnagelvin-hospital-1-9226254

Here's another suspected case in Derry. Hopefully negative aswell

Same as above case.... article suggests they recently returned from Hong Kong

Kermit.de.frog · 06-02-2020 11:42PM

The Far East is a big place.

NIMAN · 06-02-2020 11:44PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The Far East is a big place.

Hong Kong then.

saabsaab · 06-02-2020 11:50PM

bodhrandude wrote: »

I hope they are going to run some more tests after that, considering one patient took four tests before getting a positive reading of the virus.

I'd say they will Cork is a major national hospital. At least their level even if they have the virus is too low to show up. They are in isolation so less chance of passing it on now.

Wibbs · 07-02-2020 12:01AM

riffmongous wrote: »

While you are working I guess? But you are going to wear it long term and while you go around doing your daily life? I was actually referring to just gas masks anyway, they are enough to give you a literal pain in your neck

Gas masks are fairly easy to wear, some might feel claustrophobic, but otherwise... Certainly in the timeframe of an hour or so to get supplies and the like.

Wibbs · 07-02-2020 12:04AM

ardinn wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaIjwvjBwqg

Yeah he's informative alright A, but jaysus he bloody drags it out. Again you could condense that vid into 5 maybe 10 minutes. Maybe it's because he's a lecturer/teacher in the subject? Hang back for the slower guys in the back of the class kinda thing?

07-02-2020 12:15AM

Of course that's what he's doing. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to work out that he's trying to make it as easy to understand as possible for people of all abilities, ages, backgrounds and languages. It is a topic of international concern, so he does need to make the info accessible to all sorts of people. Not just the amazingly clever ones like yourself Wibbs.

Wibbs · 07-02-2020 12:20AM

Nada to do with cleverness or no, if anything I would say his dragged out approach is more confusing to lay people. Though the repetition might work to some degree.

"Rocket surgeon". Kudos.

imfml · 07-02-2020 12:23AM

RTE reporting there are 15 suspected cases in Ireland with none confirmed. I guess its only a matter of time and we will have to rely on it being contained. Funny enough, I went to the gym tonight and was never so paranoid about how unhygienic it is if you think about it.

wakka12 · 07-02-2020 12:24AM

I wonder have gyms been forcibly closed in some asian countries like singapore and vietnam?

fritzelly · 07-02-2020 12:29AM

Wibbs wrote: »

Yeah he's informative alright A, but jaysus he bloody drags it out. Again you could condense that vid into 5 maybe 10 minutes. Maybe it's because he's a lecturer/teacher in the subject? Hang back for the slower guys in the back of the class kinda thing?

Agree with you. He repeats a lot of stuff but it's a single take to his credit - nothing like these "pro" youtubers who edit the crap out of their vids.
He does know what he's talking about and fair play to him he is educating people

Just watched the last vid and he's like the WHO are saying what???

fritzelly · 07-02-2020 12:32AM

imfml wrote: »

RTE reporting there are 15 suspected cases in Ireland with none confirmed. I guess its only a matter of time and we will have to rely on it being contained. Funny enough, I went to the gym tonight and was never so paranoid about how unhygienic it is if you think about it.

Saw that - what the hell is the point of PPE being sent to doctors. Are they gonna be in full hazmat suits when you go to see them or you cough and the doc says hold on there need to get changed
Any eejit who goes to the doc with flu symptoms should be shot on sight - apart from the fact that even with normal flu you shouldn't be spreading it but you must have been living under a rock to go to them with the current news.

hmmm · 07-02-2020 12:36AM

Some hopeful reports today.

The doctor treating the patients in Germany says it's no more dangerous than the Flu
https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern/schwabinger-chefarzt-corona-nicht-gefaehrlicher-als-influenza,RphX42Z

Harvard epidemiologist - “So what looks like a horrific disease may be the horrific tip of a very large iceberg,” i.e. there may be vast numbers of people who are infected, but we are only hearing about the most serious.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/367/6478/610?et_rid=34804937&et_cid=3196590

I also think the Chinese government's new strategy of quarantining people with mild symptoms in large fever hospitals sounds like a good strategy - home quarantine has helped to spread the disease amongst family groups. House them together, send any critical patients to hospitals, and release them when they are not infected. It's what we did here in Ireland back when TB was rampant.

wakka12 · 07-02-2020 12:44AM

40 more cases confirmed on the Japanese boat. 61 in total now. Well if the spreadability of the virus was ever in doubt that certainly puts it to bed
Given that it seems remarkable that there has been so few localised outbreaks of note outside of China, especially with the lax screening of chinese touristsand immigrants into many countries even now, and several verified reports of confirmed infected invididuals holidaying throughout countries such as Mexico, England. I was reading an article yesterday about a Chinese man ho was infected and was hoolidaying in Mexico city, none of the dozens of people he was in contact with contracted it.

Rhys Essien · 07-02-2020 12:56AM

Remember that nurse who put out a video last week claiming that 90,000 were infected. Surely the real figure now in gone over the million.

Also remember the graph that estimates that a million would be dead by 21 Feb and around 57 million would be infected.

lolanacho · 07-02-2020 01:08AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Death confirmed again

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1225537472584650753

The poor guy dead and his pregnant wife is also sick with Coronavirus.

07-02-2020 01:34AM

41 new cases confirmed overnight on the cruise ship currently docked in Japan. Went from 20 to 61 in one jump
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-07/massive-spike-of-coronavirus-cases-on-board-cruise-ship/11943302

bodhrandude · 07-02-2020 01:45AM

Deleted User wrote: »

41 new cases confirmed overnight on the cruise ship currently docked in Japan. Went from 20 to 61 in one jump
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-07/massive-spike-of-coronavirus-cases-on-board-cruise-ship/11943302

Jesus this news is getting worse and worse, 15 unconfirmed in Ireland no idea where they are apart from 3 in Dublin, Cork and Kerry and 41 on that cruise ship bringing the total Japanese cases up to 94.

sdanseo · 07-02-2020 02:25AM

As absolutely horrendous as it sounds, the spread on the cruise ship will be like a small laboratory for Japan and the rest of the civilised world to examine the disease in a controlled manner without China meddling in the results.

Of course, that could be at the expense of a lot of the guests becoming severely ill. Only time will tell.
I work with Germans every day and they are never sensationalist or anything but blunt and pragmatic, so that tells us something of how to read into Bavaria's CMO (a few posts above) saying it's no worse than flu.

07-02-2020 02:42AM

A third patient with coronavirus confirmed in the UK is being treated at a London hospital.
Chief medical officer Professor Chris Whitty said in a statement on Thursday that the individual did not acquire the virus in the UK.
It is understood the patient arrived at Guy’s Hospital in London Bridge on Thursday afternoon and that the virus was contracted in an Asian country, but not in China.
The patient is thought to have been diagnosed in Brighton before being transferred. https://au.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-uk-third-case-confirmed-132226248.html

bodhrandude · 07-02-2020 02:43AM

hmmm wrote: »

Some hopeful reports today.

The doctor treating the patients in Germany says it's no more dangerous than the Flu
https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern/schwabinger-chefarzt-corona-nicht-gefaehrlicher-als-influenza,RphX42Z

Harvard epidemiologist - “So what looks like a horrific disease may be the horrific tip of a very large iceberg,” i.e. there may be vast numbers of people who are infected, but we are only hearing about the most serious.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/367/6478/610?et_rid=34804937&et_cid=3196590

I also think the Chinese government's new strategy of quarantining people with mild symptoms in large fever hospitals sounds like a good strategy - home quarantine has helped to spread the disease amongst family groups. House them together, send any critical patients to hospitals, and release them when they are not infected. It's what we did here in Ireland back when TB was rampant.

A very interesting and reassuring read, thank you for posting.

ongarite · 07-02-2020 02:45AM

wakka12 wrote: »

I wonder have gyms been forcibly closed in some asian countries like singapore and vietnam?

Nope, I'm in Singapore for last week.
My hotel gym, spa is open.
All food courts which are packed with people daily are running as normal.

Quantum Erasure · 07-02-2020 02:58AM

imfml wrote: »

RTE reporting there are 15 suspected cases in Ireland with none confirmed.

just looked that up, very short on details,
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0207/1113703-coronavirus/

although this line caught my attention...
RTÉ News understands Minister for Health Simon Harris and his EU counterparts have been told they may have to attend the meeting next Thursday

old_aussie · 07-02-2020 03:11AM

Deleted User wrote: »

41 new cases confirmed overnight on the cruise ship currently docked in Japan. Went from 20 to 61 in one jump
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-07/massive-spike-of-coronavirus-cases-on-board-cruise-ship/11943302

If it's spreading through the aircon, then the ships passengers and crew are doomed.

Keeping them in their separate rooms isn't going to work.

ceadaoin. · 07-02-2020 03:29AM

old_aussie wrote: »

If it's spreading through the aircon, then the ships passengers and crew are doomed.

Keeping them in their separate rooms isn't going to work.

Yeah cruise ships seem to be the ideal location for viruses to spread. How often do we hear about ships being decimated by norovirus or similar?

Why dont they just take them off and quarantine them elsewhere? If anything it could stop even more people becoming infected

ardinn · 07-02-2020 03:30AM

old_aussie wrote: »

If it's spreading through the aircon, then the ships passengers and crew are doomed.

Keeping them in their separate rooms isn't going to work.

Aircon doesnt work like that - it isnt one system - I worked in a lot of hotels and your looking at 1 unit per 2/3 rooms - Literally the roof was like an ariel view of electric picnic replacing tents with AC compressor units.

I could be wrong for a ship however but a singular A/C unit for 3000 odd rooms would be fúcking huge! like - massive!

This would be typical

However, it does beg the question how its actually done on a ship.

bodhrandude · 07-02-2020 03:46AM

An article speculating why North Korea has been silent during this outbreak. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/06/asia/north-korea-wuhan-coronavirus-infection-intl-hnk/index.html

BumperD · 07-02-2020 04:36AM

bodhrandude wrote: »

An article speculating why North Korea has been silent during this outbreak. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/06/asia/north-korea-wuhan-coronavirus-infection-intl-hnk/index.html

In fairness there is an easy explanation. It’s a closed border so doesn’t have the open traffic others experience so I’d imagine a little less prone to imported disease. Don’t believe everything you read on CNN

A_Lost_Man · 07-02-2020 04:41AM

Many people are wondering what this outbreak is and many are feared and why it outbreak in china why not other country and now happening in other countries. Actually the point china's population is increasing and their resources are vanishing and they knew if they could not control population one day they are going to die due to over population and they test the virus on Wuhan population but sadly the scheme goes wrong. It is actually the same story of 'AMC walking dead'

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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