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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    lolanacho wrote: »
    From RTE:
    Coronavirus Protection Packs to be sent to GPS and Clinics


    Among what it says it’s this:

    “”””Interim Director of the Health Protection Surveillance Centre Dr John Cuddihy said the ability of the virus to transmit from person to person is limited””””

    Can’t believe he’s just said that!

    Wtf? Just happened almost 30,000 times is all..minimum!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,284 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Have you seen these videos? They look far, far, far from comically fake. The opposite, disturbingly real. The quality of acting talent must be through the absolute roof if all of these videos are fake. I can only assume you haven't seen them, but if you have, care to offer how (and why) folks are making such elaborate and realistic fake videos?

    Just a few I've seen

    - Corpses lying on otherwise empty streets
    - People literally dropping and going into fits (this is a real complication, regardless of whether the videos are real)
    - Apartment of family, of various ages, all dead
    - Screaming woman and BF being bundled into a relatively small box on back of a truck. Sounds incredible, but the woman is very convincingly upset!!!

    The above are just a few, hope to Christ every one of them is fake, but that's even more improbable than them actually being fake, considering the amount of similar content out there.

    what videos? links?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_e_rGKnekII

    WHO recent press conference.
    They're not saying much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    lolanacho wrote: »
    From RTE:
    Coronavirus Protection Packs to be sent to GPS and Clinics


    Among what it says it’s this:

    “”””Interim Director of the Health Protection Surveillance Centre Dr John Cuddihy said the ability of the virus to transmit from person to person is limited””””

    Can’t believe he’s just said that!


    He might be correct. It does seem to be less contagious than common cold imo. Otherwise everybody would have gotten it on that ship


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    what videos? links?

    If you really want to see them, ontwitter, just click into the trending, then stories of Coronavirus and start scrolling or #coronavirus. But honestly, this is grim stuff.

    Like I said, hopefully fake, but there is just too much realistic and similarly themed content for it to be fake. Some maybe old videos and not related.

    I'm still hoping this isn't as bad is appears to really be, and watching the stats outside of China like a hawk. As I've said in a few posts, we (everywhere but China) are seriously early in the outbreak compared to China. While we do have a headstart on prepping for this, we have one major disadvantage in that we can't /wont lock down like China has.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Is China handling this badly?

    Bit slow to quarantine?
    I don't think any other country could lock down a city

    Build a giant hospital:
    I don't think any other nation could do it as quick.

    China has done things I wouldn't believe are possible during this virus.

    Slow to give out transparent information:
    Sure that's true, but I can't see other countries doing it differently. Look at H1N1, Between 8,870 and 18,300 deaths in the United States and up to 203,000 deaths worldwide in 2009. I didn't remember a big commotion then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    givyjoe wrote: »
    If you really want to see them, ontwitter, just click into the trending, then stories of Coronavirus and start scrolling or #coronavirus. But honestly, this is grim stuff.

    Like I said, hopefully fake, but there is just too much realistic and similarly themed content for it to be fake. Some maybe old videos and not related.

    I'm still hoping this isn't as bad is appears to really be, and watching the stats outside of China like a hawk. As I've said in a few posts, we (everywhere but China) are seriously early in the outbreak compared to China. While we do have a headstart on prepping for this, we have one major disadvantage in that we can't /wont lock down like China has.

    Why are you so reluctant to post these tweets? Boards supports embedded tweets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Is China handling this badly?

    Bit slow to quarantine?
    I don't think any other country could lock down a city

    Build a giant hospital:
    I don't think any other nation could do it as quick.

    China has done things I wouldn't believe are possible during this virus.

    Slow to give out transparent information:
    Sure that's true, but I can't see other countries doing it differently. Look at H1N1, Between 8,870 and 18,300 deaths in the United States and up to 203,000 deaths worldwide in 2009. I didn't remember a big commotion then.

    True, I think the real problem will be if it takes hold in a country that is unable to do this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,022 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Apparently the doctor isnt dead after all. Who knows what the truth is, it really is impossible to believe anything coming out of china right now. Take everything with a grain of salt.

    I watched a couple of those videos and some do look fake tbh. Just remember that there are definitely people out there who would go to those lengths to make videos like that just to freak people out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,193 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭auspicious


    With regards to the Twitter vid. with the people supposedly in the box, can anyone translate what the Chinese characters on the side of the pickup say?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭tony1980


    There is a couple where I work who returned from China on Sunday and are just doing self quarantine at home before coming back into the office this Monday. They didn't mention any checks on them before flying home. I can't recall the City they were in but it was about 700km from the outbreak and at the time of leaving for their flight, they said there was apparently 100 confirmed cases in the City they were staying in.


  • Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I was just looking at public snaps of Wuhan. Still the same guy speaking Arabic who is driving around on empty streets.

    There was one snap of a load of dirt being dropped on a road to block it.

    Some snaps from the same kids from the other day. I have a feeling they are in a small private school. No snaps from the outside off them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,485 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    tony1980 wrote: »
    There is a couple where I work who returned from China on Sunday and are just doing self quarantine at home before coming back into the office this Monday. They didn't mention any checks on them before flying home. I can't recall the City they were in but it was about 700km from the outbreak and at the time of leaving for their flight, they said there was apparently 100 confirmed cases in the City they were staying in.

    Yeah they should be staying at home for two weeks at least. Unfortunately the Irish government are relying on other countries to filter suspect cases as we have no direct flights, typically naive and lazy attitude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,193 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Apparently the doctor isnt dead after all. Who knows what the truth is, it really is impossible to believe anything coming out of china right now. Take everything with a grain of salt.

    I watched a couple of those videos and some do look fake tbh. Just remember that there are definitely people out there who would go to those lengths to make videos like that just to freak people out.

    Any link for this.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    I've heard that one of the cases in Ireland has tested positive, but that the HSE don't want to go public and cause panic. I take these things with a pinch of salt so not sure if it's true or not...

    Seriously - where'd you hear it from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭tony1980


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Yeah they should be staying at home for two weeks at least. Unfortunately the Irish government are relying on other countries to filter suspect cases as we have no direct flights, typically naive and lazy attitude.

    I thought that myself and I felt like bringing it up but have not because of fear people might think i am been overly dramatic. I haven't really paid too much attention to it tbh until I knew they were coming home, we thought they might be another month as they were there for a family emergency the past 6 weeks. Perhaps I should just take next week off :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,284 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    tony1980 wrote: »
    I thought that myself and I felt like bringing it up but have not because of fear people might think i am been overly dramatic. I haven't really paid too much attention to it tbh until I knew they were coming home, we thought they might be another month as they were there for a family emergency the past 6 weeks. Perhaps I should just take next week off :P

    i certainly wouldn't be going anywhere near them just in case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Seriously - where'd you hear it from?

    I think it's safe to assume that most unsubstantiated claims come from twitter or some random whatsapp group.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    imfml wrote: »
    As if the HSE would repeat the mistakes China made last month. If its confirmed we will be told.

    Yeah it wouldn’t be like the HSE to hold back information...like the cervical cancer scandal for instance...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭tony1980


    i certainly wouldn't be going anywhere near them just in case.

    Not much choice unless I take 5 days annual leave...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    tuxy wrote: »
    I think it's safe to assume that most unsubstantiated claims come from twitter or some random whatsapp group.

    This isn’t the case for me and I was told in person but obviously I can’t post the details publicly on Boards and get in trouble! Like I said, take it with a pinch of salt, I am doing so myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,193 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Any hint on what Irish case is confirmed then, the Dublin. Cork or Kerry case?

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭goat2


    tuxy wrote: »
    I think it's safe to assume that most unsubstantiated claims come from twitter or some random whatsapp group.

    Why is it headlining so much around the world, with flights stopped coming from area, huge hospitals built in days, people locked in in their homes, on board huge ships, and China asking for assistance with masks and so on, it has to be a huge problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭goat2


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Have you seen these videos? They look far, far, far from comically fake. The opposite, disturbingly real. The quality of acting talent must be through the absolute roof if all of these videos are fake. I can only assume you haven't seen them, but if you have, care to offer how (and why) folks are making such elaborate and realistic fake videos?

    Just a few I've seen

    - Corpses lying on otherwise empty streets
    - People literally dropping and going into fits (this is a real complication, regardless of whether the videos are real)
    - Apartment of family, of various ages, all dead
    - Screaming woman and BF being bundled into a relatively small box on back of a truck. Sounds incredible, but the woman is very convincingly upset!!!

    The above are just a few, hope to Christ every one of them is fake, but that's even more improbable than them actually being fake, considering the amount of similar content out there.

    I have not seen them, but if it is true, it is disturbing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,193 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Any link for this.

    His death confirmed by the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51403795

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    goat2 wrote: »
    Why is it headlining so much around the world, with flights stopped coming from area, huge hospitals built in days, people locked in in their homes, on board huge ships, and China asking for assistance with masks and so on, it has to be a huge problem

    You need to read the post I'm quoting for context.
    Please don't take my post and apply it to something unconnected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder




    Only god knows tbh as China seems to be locked down.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594

    &

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/image-deleted-from-tencent-sparks-doubt-about-official-virus-tally/news-story/54736a213dddd2e6d8d9d0b382ca34b6

    Tencent briefly lists 154,023 infections and 24,589 deaths from Wuhan coronavirus.

    Hard to know what to believe except that if the virus was affecting the number of people purported here, the draconian steps taken would make a lot of sense.


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