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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #3092
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,120 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    car_radio19834 wrote: »
    Why are people so eager to escape?

    Yeah I don't get it... surely one of the best places to be would be in a hospital in Austria getting dedicated treatment should you have it.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #3093
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    No harm to be have a full fridge and keep it stocked up over the next few weeks just to be prudent. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Anyone should be able to manage a couple of weeks quarantine with a full fridge and cupboard, even if they rationed a bit right? I.e no need to panic and stock a room floor to ceiling with beans and shotgun shells

    PS I've stocked up on food and disinfectant wipes, hand sanitizer

    I have brandy, whisky, Bacardi, vodka, gin, lemons, ice, tonic, coke and two tubs of quality street, turkey and ham in the freezer from Christmas and aunt bessies Yorkshire puds. Oh, and a couple of pots noodles, tins of soup and a tin of beans.

    I’m golden :D


  • #3094
    RebelButtMunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,421 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    I have brandy, whisky, Bacardi, vodka, gin, lemons, ice, tonic, coke and two tubs of quality street, turkey and ham in the freezer from Christmas and aunt bessies Yorkshire puds. Oh, and a couple of pots noodles, tins of soup and a tin of beans.

    I’m golden :D

    Nice! Ive a load of tuborg in the shed from Christmas.


  • #3095
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Alas there probably is thousands dead confined to their homes or barricaded in


    Perhaps, but I have heard that the police are going door to door in the locked down cities.


  • #3096
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    silverharp wrote: »
    We would generally have at least a week’s supply of food on hand . I wouldn’t go overboard but no harm having some extra high calorie food on hand , might get a few kg of butter and stick it in the freezer and I would have enough basic pasta and rice dishes for a week or 2 . I cant see the shops emptying , even during the “Beast from the East” it was only the fresh food and “bread” that disappeared.

    I think the concerns are that if serious panic buying started, you would need to be among folk who might be infected, as well as basics running out?

    eg if there were need of quarantine etc? Even as a precaution.

    This situation is an unknown one here?


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  • #3097
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    joseywhales wrote: »
    The problem now is that they are too big to fail, if this lasts for 6+months, expect massive recession, all the integrated manufacturing pipelines through china will fail, raw commodities will tank since their biggest customer is frozen, I don't even know the secondary impacts, will they start desperately pulling their numerous and massive international investments?

    Absolute calamity if it doesn't come under control


    They are going to have a revolt if the people go hungry. The famine is still in the memory of a lot of people, and the government is seen as a necessary 'evil' (for lack of a better word)


    It's actually an interesting sociology at play in China vs other countries. Sure, the government is powerful, the army is powerful, the survellience is powerful, but 1.6 Billion people who aren't allowed to complain (to an extent)? How in the world can you stop that many people if things kick off



    It'll just explode suddenly imo, but, realisticly, that's not going to happen as there will just be people being replaced.


  • #3098
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 11,642 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Less than 30 cases in Europe, hospitals are not overwhelmed, travel has been restricted, and we have more awareness of the virus.

    It's only a matter of time before someone wanders into A&E in Tallaght with a scratchy throat and coughs. Sits around in the waiting room, deemed non-urgent stays on a trolley for 3 days, results come back, she's infected and has now infected 40 other people.

    Then we have problems.
    Oh feck Denartha, that's tough having someone over there. Is there any way she can get out? How is it where she is?

    She was due to visit in 2 weeks time but all the airlines have cancelled flights, so that is being postponed. She's just at home, rarely going out. Learning to love Pasta. She doesn't have a TV, so reads a lot.

    On the one hand, I'd love forced isolation - with my 40" screen TV and 2 terrabytes of movies/series + Netflix. I've been in her apartment, the entire place is smaller than my living room, and my living room is not huge.

    She's worried and doesn't trust the CCP.


  • #3099
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 11,642 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RebelButtMunch wrote: »
    Nice! Ive a load of tuborg in the shed from Christmas.

    Tuborg?

    Jaysus. I think I'd rather have the virus.


  • #3100
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,468 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    All arrivals from mainland China to Hong Kong to be compulsorily quarantined from now on.

    https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1224991480537931776

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/feb/05/coronavirus-live-updates-in-china-wuhan-outbreak-death-toll-latest-news-update-evacuation-coronaviruses


  • #3101
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,925 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Hmmm. I'm catching up on this story by reading Board.ie I'm sitting in the smoking area (no masks, lots of coughers) in Hanoi airport waiting on an internal flight.

    Shoulda subscribed to the thread.


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  • #3102
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Graces7 wrote: »
    I think the concerns are that if serious panic buying started, you would need to be among folk who might be infected, as well as basics running out?

    eg if there were need of quarantine etc? Even as a precaution.

    This situation is an unknown one here?

    Unknowns for sure however the more time passes the better the medical treatment protocols will be and for anyone who is healthy it will probably be just like a normal flu and the advice would be stay in bed. Luckily I guess the worst of the winter will be over soon so less need to be concerned about utilities disruption. If it’s a world wide pandemic its too late to close cities down, you just have to let it burn through

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #3103
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Why 5 years?

    At a minimum, there have to be serious consequences for jeopardising the public health and possibly spreading a pandemic by escaping from mandated quarantine.


  • #3104
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    silverharp wrote: »
    Unknowns for sure however the more time passes the better the medical treatment protocols will be and for anyone who is healthy it will probably be just like a normal flu and the advice would be stay in bed. Luckily I guess the worst of the winter will be over soon so less need to be concerned about utilities disruption. If it’s a world wide pandemic its too late to close cities down, you just have to let it burn through

    Not sure. It is coming across as having unknown dimensions etc.

    And always great concern re old and already compromised. There needs to be provision there.

    Wait and see time. and prepare as you can.


  • #3105
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,372 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Life is good in Wuhan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iChTCQ9RBQ




    Brought to you by the CCP


  • #3106
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,183 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    Shouldn't the Government be sending a letter to every home in the Country with the Protocol to staying safe and what to do if you experience symptoms ?

    The HSE says the Following


    Yet this Guy does the following

    Yeah the lack of info coming from government is infuriating, they are obviously too caught up in the election to worry about the publics health


  • #3107
    wellwhynot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭wellwhynot


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Yeah the lack of info coming from government is infuriating, they are obviously too caught up in the election to worry about the publics health[

    I fear that by the time we know what the scale of it is in Europe it will be too late for the government to do anything. Meanwhile they are too busy canvassing.


  • #3108
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Tuborg?

    Jaysus. I think I'd rather have the virus.

    Ha you wouldn't believe how popular Tuborg has gotten in Vietnam in the last few years.


  • #3109
    car_radio19834
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 247 ✭✭car_radio19834


    Just thinking if it came to Ireland and there were some cases and countries started telling their citizens to go home, all the foreign students would leave and rents would collapse.


  • #3110
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭circadian


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Yeah the lack of info coming from government is infuriating, they are obviously too caught up in the election to worry about the publics health

    None of my sitting TDs have responded to emails sent in the last few days. I know they're busy out canvassing but I get the feeling that they probably think I'm in the same league as your man on O'Connell street screaming about the end of days.

    I'm basically saying that some sort of public awareness and what to do should be pushed out, immediately. Anything beyond that is a bonus with those in power.

    Also, isn't Leo Varadkar a medical doctor? Surely he's seen some sort of reports and understands the scale of this. Not a peep from him or anyone else running for election (as far as I can see anyway).


  • #3111
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Vertical transmission

    https://twitter.com/CoronaVirusInt/status/1225036204225093637

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • #3112
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    car_radio19834 wrote: »
    Just thinking if it came to Ireland and there were some cases and countries started telling their citizens to go home, all the foreign students would leave and rents would collapse.

    If it was that bad in Ireland it would likely be pretty bad where the students are from...


    Seems like utter madness for people to be stocking up in Ireland at this point


  • #3113
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,775 ✭✭✭circadian


    AdamD wrote: »
    If it was that bad in Ireland it would likely be pretty bad where the students are from...


    Seems like utter madness for people to be stocking up in Ireland at this point

    It's prudent to stock up on things like rice, pasta, tinned and frozen food. It may not arrive here, it may not be a massive issue but you've got a supply of food and toiletries that'll be used within their lifespan anyway.


  • #3114
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    This thread has turned into Doomsday Preppers.


  • #3115
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Martina1991 wrote: »
    This thread has turned into Doomsday Preppers.
    Also available (SHTF): https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056466228&page=71

    Could also be of use as time goes by, and Ikea closes down:
    (HACKS): https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056371112&page=57

    FYI Probably the longest life foodstuff known to mankind is simple but nutriant rich 'honey', usualy good for 2,000yrs or so. You could scoop some of the tombs under the pyramids in Egypt and lash it into yer tea/whisky.


  • #3116
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,183 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Some good news at least, hopefully the clinical trials go well and this can be quickly rolled out

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-05/china-is-trying-to-patent-gilead-s-experimental-coronavirus-drug


  • #3117
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    I'd say any pols thinking about it are just hoping we get through Saturday and Sunday without it landing here, which in fairness looks like an OK bet at the moment. A massive exercise involving 60% of the adult population making their way to polling places and then a significant number at counts passing around pieces of paper and handling the same pencils etc etc etc doesn't seem like a great idea if we had infections on the go.


  • #3118
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Some good news at least, hopefully the clinical trials go well and this can be quickly rolled out

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-05/china-is-trying-to-patent-gilead-s-experimental-coronavirus-drug

    Gilead hmmmm interesting, so Handmaids Tale :)

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #3119
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    There's so much news coming in from various sources it's hard to know what's fact or not
    so (as always) take each news feed, and source, with a very good dose of salt and skepticism.
    Likely best to avoid twitter anon newsdumps, and instead use only more established press/publishing.

    This one is interesting (assuming if Tencent {Holdings} is China gov controlled/influenced)
    via: https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594

    ...As many experts question the veracity of China's statistics for the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak, Tencent over the weekend seems to have inadvertently released what is potentially the actual number of infections and deaths, which were astronomically higher than official figures.

    On late Saturday evening (Feb. 1), Tencent, on its webpage titled "Epidemic Situation Tracker", showed confirmed cases of novel coronavirus (2019nCoV) in China as standing at *154,023*, 10 times the official figure at the time. It listed the number of suspected cases as 79,808, four times the official figure.

    The number of cured cases was only 269, well below the official number that day of 300. Most ominously, the death toll listed was *24,589*, vastly higher than the 300 officially listed that day.


  • #3120
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Some good news at least, hopefully the clinical trials go well and this can be quickly rolled out
    Many folks on the various TV news items, always add at the end of updates, that that full human trials are required for {Western} gov states to prevent getting sued.

    Usually these take 3/6/12mths before any mass vax program could be cleared, and rolled out to the public.
    Of course there may be some 'wavier' form that could be signed, voiding any possible clinical negligence.


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  • #3121
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,593 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »
    The number of cured cases was only 269, well below the official number that day of 300.

    Hardly "well below"
    Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »
    Most ominously, the death toll listed was *24,589*, vastly higher than the 300 officially listed that day.

    I doubt it.


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