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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #1832
    monty_python
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭monty_python


    Your all off your heads.
    This virus isn't dangerous, the flu is more dangerous.
    People posting about stocking up on food and getting generators are insane.
    Bunch of nutjobs


  • #1833
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    monty_python wrote: »
    Your all off your heads.
    This virus isn't dangerous, the flu is more dangerous.
    People posting about stocking up on food and getting generators are insane.
    Bunch of nutjobs

    WHO do not declare the flu to be an international emergency. People stocking up in Ireland are probably nutjobs but it appears to be considerably more dangerous than flu.
    Its really just impossible to know right. SWine flu had an initial esimtated death rate of 7%, but then it turned out to be 0.1%, SARS had an initial estimated death rate at 4% or under, but in some countries the death rate turned out to be almost 20%. It takes a long time to confirm , right now with everything so unclear it certainly pays to be safe rather than sorry. But with two thousand hospitalised and 250 killed in China in just a fortnight by a completely unknown virus with no known cure I have no idea why you would be so certain its no more of a threat than the flu.


  • #1834
    PhantomHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭PhantomHat


    Reading that article on Why Travel Bans Don’t Work During An Outbreak Like Coronavirus I read:

    "Instead, it appears to be a response to xenophobia from the right wing, as Megan Thielkin noted in Stat."

    Why do some people like this Megan Thielkin have to make everything political. This virus does not care about race or skin colour. Focusing on public health is more important now than political correctness


  • #1835
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    wakka12 wrote: »
    People stocking up in Ireland are probably nutjobs
    Guilty.


  • #1836
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,161 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    monty_python wrote: »
    Your all off your heads.
    This virus isn't dangerous, the flu is more dangerous.
    People posting about stocking up on food and getting generators are insane.
    Bunch of nutjobs

    Said everyone about the Spanish flu, came back to bite them in the arse


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  • #1837
    PhantomHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭PhantomHat


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Said everyone about the Spanish flu, came back to bite them in the arse
    Theres a certain amount of people who do not wish to fully comprehend what is unfolding. Maybe this may be an attempt to calm their own fears.
    I'm very optimistic that this will be dealt with successfully but let us not bury our heads in the sand


  • #1838
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    ardinn wrote: »
    To pass this off with a blanket of "fake" is quite Naive to be fair. The latest one I saw is a woman queing outside a pharmacy, people are clearly in panic and no one will go near her, its shockingly sad and the same amount frightening.

    And confirmed by who? Are the government going to come out and say that yer mans video on whatsapp is true? nonesense - Who would you like to "confirm them" ??

    On the earlier videos, it is very hard to fake videos of people lying dead on the street while ambulances and emergency services surround them, in full Hazmat gear - unless you believe the paramedics in the videos were in on the "joke"

    Your attitude to all the visual evidence we have is extremely blinkered. again i'd love to know who you would like to confirm these viseos!

    For a lot of people if it doesn't appear on the BBC, Guardian, CNN or whatever mainstream outlet they watch...then it didn't happen and its fake.

    The reality right now is Twitter is miles ahead of the MSM on this issue and you're basically in the dark if you rely on them for your info.


  • #1839
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    monty_python wrote: »
    Your all off your heads.
    This virus isn't dangerous, the flu is more dangerous.
    People posting about stocking up on food and getting generators are insane.
    Bunch of nutjobs

    Snowflake society.


  • #1840
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Why Travel Bans Don’t Work During An Outbreak Like Coronavirus

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2020/02/01/why-travel-bans-dont-work-during-an-outbreak-like-coronavirus/#162fb21953ea

    Yeah right travel bans don't work, what they mean to say is that travel bans will cause massive disruption to trade and profits for corporations.


  • #1841
    givyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    monty_python wrote: »
    Your all off your heads.
    This virus isn't dangerous, the flu is more dangerous.
    People posting about stocking up on food and getting generators are insane.
    Bunch of nutjobs

    What a ludicrous statement. This is literally many multiple times more dangerous. As Sars was, though the mortality rate was higher for Sars.


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  • #1842
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    https://twitter.com/traderAT12/status/1223612534579777536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1223612534579777536&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231223612534579777536


  • #1843
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    https://twitter.com/MgOqkzLBRPLCHyN/status/1223583502232215552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1223583502232215552&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231223583502232215552


  • #1844
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,161 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Still not sure people collapsing is anything, if this was any other day it would be still happening and no one batting an eyelid
    Just in the current climate it is more big news


  • #1845
    Dante7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    monty_python wrote: »
    Your all off your heads.
    This virus isn't dangerous, the flu is more dangerous.
    People posting about stocking up on food and getting generators are insane.
    Bunch of nutjobs

    Cool. I look forwarding to reading your peer reviewed paper explaining how seasonal flu, with a mortality rate of <0.01% and R0 of 1.3 is more dangerous than 2019-nCoV which has a higher R0 and a mortality rate which is 200 times greater.


  • #1846
    ardinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    I hadnt seen either of those - Id love to know what happened - were they fine and just collapsed, are they dead? - They look dead!

    Just pretend for one moment this is what happens to some people who contract the virus! Then realise, it possibly is!
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    http://slaneyfishing.com




  • #1847
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    monty_python wrote: »
    People posting about stocking up on food and getting generators are insane.
    Water and electricy will be 99% regardless (mostly remote or automated). Saying that the folks over at the uk's major power plants have recnetly forbidden staff any travel to China, or anyone entry, who's been there recently.

    However if you've a carton (not box) of N95's left over from the previous WHO emergency, then you'd be sitting on a very tidy 1,000% or so profit already. A shop over in Liverpool today, was reported to have crowds queueing outside...


  • #1848
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,894 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    We need to lighten up things here, what's the announcement for Electric Picnic 2020 :)

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #1849
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,678 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    We need to lighten up things here, what's the announcement for Electric Picnic 2020 :)

    Anthrax
    Thirty Seconds to SARS
    The Coronas...


  • #1850
    NewMan1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭NewMan1982


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Anthrax
    Thirty Seconds to SARS
    The Coronas...

    The early bird tickets flu out


  • #1851
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,251 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/schamel12/status/1223728060064837632


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  • #1852
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,161 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Any news where the flight is from, its not ryanair


  • #1853
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,678 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1223732103034101761



    also, Number of people in serious/critical condition in Hubei province rises to 1,562, up from 1,294 yesterday


  • #1854
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,251 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Any news where the flight is from, its not ryanair

    Seeing Aeroflot mentioned


  • #1855
    whiskeyman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Anthrax
    Thirty Seconds to SARS
    The Coronas...

    *Just added*

    The Vaccines
    Placebo
    The Cure


  • #1856
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/schamel12/status/1223728060064837632


    Looks like an Aeroflot flight from Moscow. You can see the orange and blue on engine cowling.


  • #1857
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    God, no offense to China, but their propraganda is hilariously obvious



    https://twitter.com/i/status/1223646064579956740


    I mean, did you see the cops try and catch him? :P



    As a sidenote, more than 600,000 people are going to die of cancer in the united states this year. I hate to do whataboutery, but it does kind of highlight the oddness of this.


  • #1858
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,344 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Dante7 wrote: »
    Cool. I look forwarding to reading your peer reviewed paper explaining how seasonal flu, with a mortality rate of <0.01% and R0 of 1.3 is more dangerous than 2019-nCoV which has a higher R0 and a mortality rate which is 2000 times greater.

    I am not upon figures to be honest but looking at the figures from a few days ago 17% of confirmed cases were very ill with 3% fatal. But these figures are based on the fact that the number of confirmed cases are based on actual cases. So that % is to be diluted.

    In other words people who only have minor symptoms and thus did not seek care - would not be included in the overall numbers so the %s are actually smaller.

    So as for the seasonal flu? I do not know the global numbers but in the US for example there has been 8200 deaths _this season alone_, And for some reason this number does not seem to be resulting in any public outbreak of fear :) It is not even making people get vaccinated. Golly :)


  • #1859
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,161 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Seeing Aeroflot mentioned

    So everyone saying we're insulated since we have no flights from China... If its true


  • #1860
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,251 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Don't know if it's true.

    Not seeing anything reported as of yet...


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  • #1861
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    People collapse all the time in public, heart attack and stroke is pretty damn common. But because of the virus fears, people probably wont go to help them up or touch them because they think theyll catch corona. I really doubt anyone is collapsing from the virus, symptoms develop gradually, youll be in a hospital a while before you die.

    Anyway, 2000 new cases confirmed today and 45 more deaths, seems to be the average figures occurring daily for the last couple of days straight now.


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