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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #1082
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    As I say, if folks are upticking their orders in non-perishables and bottled water etc and you're finding it harder to come across certain things like hand sanitiser in shops (anecdotally) then some folks are already looking at this thing and deciding to prepare for the situation they have in China, where people are isolating at home. Most households can probably only do a week like that with what's on hand before someone has to go out to a shop and mingle. No point trying to stock the larder when everyone figures out (if it gets that bad) it's a real problem and it's like lord of the flies down in Lidl.

    Jesus Christ this is all conjecture and tin foil hat stuff. The risk is currently low and everyone I know is out at work, nobody self isolating whilst sitting on a pile of brennan’s bread...


  • #1083
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    There are now 10 confirmed cases in Hong Kong according to the Johns Hopkins tracking map.

    When public confidence goes, it will go fast.

    https://twitter.com/Bryan_A_Cheung/status/1222725479792173056?s=20

    https://twitter.com/joshuawongcf/status/1222714596600844290?s=20


  • #1084
    Nijmegen
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    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Jesus Christ this is all conjecture and tin foil hat stuff. The risk is currently low and everyone I know is out at work, nobody self isolating whilst sitting on a pile of brennan’s bread...

    Not suggesting anyone is currently self isolating. Suggesting they're stockpiling.

    An hour after the first case was confirmed in the Philippians.... Go on Twitter now and search "Panic buying" and there's a ton of this from just there over the past short period of time.

    https://twitter.com/raffytima/status/1222810686494887937?s=20


  • #1085
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Russia is closing it's border with China.
    Great. The more isolated Russia is from the world the better.
    Likely that's for their benefit, not anyone elses.

    Being in the largest country in the world with plenty of natural resources, hardy (un-woke) attitudes and widely available hardware. Likely that would beat somewhere like downtown Mumbai or an overcrowded Island full of Instagrammers, under full pandemic conditions.


  • #1086
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    Not suggesting anyone is currently self isolating. Suggesting they're stockpiling.

    An hour after the first case was confirmed in the Philippians.... Go on Twitter now and search "Panic buying" and there's a ton of this from just there over the past short period of time.

    https://twitter.com/raffytima/status/1222810686494887937?s=20

    Yeah you did and seem to be getting increasingly hysterical posting picture of people queueing in an orderly way stating that it’s ‘panic buying’ ‘Some folks settling in already for the long wait at home.’ ‘Lord of the flies’.


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  • #1087
    pc7
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    No hand sanitizer available online at Boots now


  • #1088
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    I wouldn’t say they’re asleep at the wheel. In their meeting yesterday they mentioned that they were taking socioeconomic implications into consideration.
    I’d imagine we’ll have a big update at the weekend if the projected infections/deaths are true.

    WHO already admitted (in footnotes) that they got the assesment wrong now for several days. A (wild) 'CT' might be that they'd be happy to sit on their hands, and wait. Then get a massive multiple vax programme rolled out.

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  • #1089
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,279 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    Not suggesting anyone is currently self isolating. Suggesting they're stockpiling.

    An hour after the first case was confirmed in the Philippians.... Go on Twitter now and search "Panic buying" and there's a ton of this from just there over the past short period of time.

    https://twitter.com/raffytima/status/1222810686494887937?s=20

    This obscene over reaction will lead to panic buying and then a run on the banks for cash creating far more problems for everyone.

    The messaging needs to be managed better and media need to take their responsibilities seriously.


  • #1090
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Ann22 wrote: »
    Yes there is cruelty everywhere in the world but little compares to the Yulin Dog Meat festival. The individuals who take part or who stand by and condone are in my opinion, inhuman disgusting and barbaric.

    I understand how barbaric this festival is and am not dismissing that for one minute as it is deeply disturbing . However I’ve seen extremely racists remarks about Chinese people which is very unfair as I’m sure a lot of them don’t agree with this festival either.

    I do think that some people have an inability to recognise how cruel intensive farming of pig and chickens can be in our own country but people seem to ok with this as they only see the end product nicely packaged on the shelf. I’ve seen footage of pig farms and it is horrendously cruel. Stuff of nightmares if I’m honest and they are as intelligent as dogs.


  • #1091
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Yeah you did and seem to be getting increasingly hysterical posting picture of people queueing in an orderly way stating that it’s ‘panic buying’ ‘Some folks settling in already for the long wait at home.’ ‘Lord of the flies’.

    I know boards is great for pulling apart the nuance in posts, but highlighting specifically what I said:

    "preppers (ie, people who are preparing) have gone into full swing."

    "worst case scenario they're able to isolate themselves. (future tense)"

    As for panic buying, I'm just quoting the people on the ground. The Philippians post from an hour after they got their first case is from a journalist in one of their larger media companies.
    This obscene over reaction will lead to panic buying and then a run on the banks for cash creating far more problems for everyone.

    Agreed. As I mentioned upthread, when it goes it goes quickly.


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  • #1092
    Wibbs
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    pc7 wrote: »
    No hand sanitizer available online at Boots now
    The hand sanitiser stuff is good in a pinch and is convenient good old fashioned soap and water is actually better. Carbolic for the win.

    OK found the gas mask. Though this look will not go down well in the local tesco...

    0771428309d430ef7a0d2e404d9fd574.jpg

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #1093
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Wibbs wrote: »
    The hand sanitiser stuff is good in a pinch and is convenient good old fashioned soap and water is actually better. Carbolic for the win.

    OK found the gas mask. Though this look will not go down well in the local tesco...

    0771428309d430ef7a0d2e404d9fd574.jpg

    Hahaha take pictures


  • #1094
    Nijmegen
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    OK found the gas mask. Though this look will not go down well in the local tesco...

    0771428309d430ef7a0d2e404d9fd574.jpg

    "Comrades! Everything is well! The bread factories have never been more productive!"


  • #1095
    [Deleted User]
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    Really don't believe that hand sanitiser or face masks will do much to help anybody.
    People tend to get hysterical when these outbreaks happen.
    The best thing to do is just keep living your life. If you get sick, let your body fight it off.


  • #1096
    Call Me Jimmy
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    I feel like its taking a while to process the scale of china's reaction. It's pretty clear from the actions of China what a big problem this is. Usually it would be all over the news 'Capital city of China is a ghost town!', 'Shanghai streets empty'... tens of millions quarantined. Chinese economy SHUTS DOWN. etc.

    The numbers have gone kind of linear the past two days which is a massive improvement at the epicenter... IF they were representative. We also assumed it would go linear as the new cases outgrew the testing capacity, and this is supported by the suspected cases continuing roughly on the original trajectory.

    I've seen enough evidence of craziness and cabin fever kicking in in China to know that this 'perfectly calm' lockdown has a time limit.


  • #1097
    Nijmegen
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Really don't believe that hand sanitiser or face masks will do much to help anybody.
    People tend to get hysterical when these outbreaks happen.
    The best thing to do is just keep living your life. If you get sick, let your body fight it off.

    Easy to say if you don't have a pre existing condition, or young kids at home, or are caring for / in close proximity to elderly parents etc. If you're a young couple living alone you're grand, but I wouldn't fancy giving my elderly parents a push on their way to their reward.


  • #1098
    Bobblehats
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    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Jesus Christ this is all conjecture and tin foil hat stuff. The risk is currently low and everyone I know is out at work, nobody self isolating whilst sitting on a pile of brennan’s bread...

    Don’t hold your breath!


  • #1099
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Jesus Christ this is all conjecture and tin foil hat stuff. The risk is currently low and everyone I know is out at work, nobody self isolating whilst sitting on a pile of brennan’s bread...

    To provide some balance to the hysteria.
    Number of people with the SARS corona virus in Ireland: 1
    Survival Rate: 100%


  • #1100
    Wibbs
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    Bobblehats wrote: »
    Don’t hold your breath!
    Actually holding your breath might be a good plan. :D

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #1101
    Wibbs
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    Nijmegen wrote: »
    "Comrades! Everything is well! The bread factories have never been more productive!"
    I'll strap on my geiger counter set to sensitive for more potential panic.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • #1102
    CrankyHaus
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Really don't believe that hand sanitiser or face masks will do much to help anybody.
    People tend to get hysterical when these outbreaks happen.
    The best thing to do is just keep living your life. If you get sick, let your body fight it off.


    Basic hygiene procedures do an enormous amount for all infection, not just this. At the herd level it's one of the most cost-effective methods to control infection. There's a very good reason why hygiene prectices like handwashing, not spitting in public and so on have seperately developed as a hard etiquette in many different cultures.


    The problem is filthy dirtbags who ignore hygiene and endanger everyone.


  • #1103
    Nijmegen
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    I'll strap on my geiger counter set to sensitive for more potential panic.

    Get this audio track and some speakers...



  • #1104
    Ipso
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    The hand sanitiser stuff is good in a pinch and is convenient good old fashioned soap and water is actually better. Carbolic for the win.

    OK found the gas mask. Though this look will not go down well in the local tesco...

    0771428309d430ef7a0d2e404d9fd574.jpg

    Well la de da, some of us don’t have modern luxuries.
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  • #1105
    Mefistofelino
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    I'll strap on my geiger counter set to sensitive for more potential panic.

    I'd suggest setting it to 3.6 Roentgens. Not great, but not terrible.


  • #1106
    Kermit.de.frog
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  • #1107
    pc7
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    Ben Kavanagh Q&A if you haven't seen it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4vFj5GsBnE He is such a cool dude!


  • #1108
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Jesus Christ this is all conjecture and tin foil hat stuff. The risk is currently low and everyone I know is out at work, nobody self isolating whilst sitting on a pile of brennan’s bread...

    I'd say the risk is probably above low.

    Not medium but above low given the rate of infections. Its growing significantly by the day.


  • #1109
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 11,642 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pc7 wrote: »
    Ben Kavanagh Q&A if you haven't seen it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4vFj5GsBnE He is such a cool dude!

    Thats a terrific listen. He's very wise.

    "If you worry about it and you get it, then you have suffered twice, so I don't worry about it"

    If he thinks his apartment is untidy, he should see mine.


  • #1110
    pc7
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Thats a terrific listen. He's very wise.

    "If you worry about it and you get it, then you have suffered twice, so I don't worry about it"

    If he thinks his apartment is untidy, he should see mine.

    He really is fantastic, I’d be going off my head in alone like that. Hopefully doing the videos is helping him and giving him something to do.


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  • #1111
    [Deleted User]
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    pc7 wrote: »
    He really is fantastic, I’d be going off my head in alone like that. Hopefully doing the videos is helping him and giving him something to do.

    I could handle that fine(home alone for weeks). My annoyances would be similar to his, not being able to go out for food: Considering this is the country that invented chinese takeaway, the food you get out and about is phenon-nomnomnom-enal.

    Cooking with only one wok but be an annoyance too - I also love to cook. I have 3 woks.


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