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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #572
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,686 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Deleted User wrote: »
    China has a far greater degree of electronic transfers (wechat/Taobao/etc) than other countries I've been in. I haven't used cash in the last two years of being in China, so the idea of them needing to shut down their economy is unlikely. There's still plenty of options for the economy to continue while being monitored or having safety measures being in place.

    I recently purchased a Dell laptop and I have just been advised that shipment of the item from China has been put on hold due to shipping issues in the region. Make of that what you will. The longer this goes on the greater the economic impact globally. The workforce of entire factories have been told not to return to work following the national holidays.

    There are already estimates that this could result in a 1.5% decline in China's GDP. The SARS outbreak resulted in a 2.6% decline and the economic impact was felt globally.


  • #573
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No signs of illness. That's good at least.

    It can be present for sometime before showing symptoms.


  • #574
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,583 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Bit of an aul typo or a slight 'mispoke' incident, ah sure.

    The World Health Organization said on Monday the global risk from the deadly virus in China was “high,” admitting an error in its previous reports that said it was “moderate.”
    The U.N. health body said in a situation report published late Sunday that the risk was
    “very high in China, high at the regional level and high at the global level.”
    In a footnote, the WHO said there had been an “error” in previous communications published on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday which “incorrectly” said the global risk was “moderate.”


  • #575
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »
    Bit of an aul typo or a slight 'mispoke' incident, ah sure.

    The World Health Organization said on Monday the global risk from the deadly virus in China was “high,” admitting an error in its previous reports that said it was “moderate.”
    The U.N. health body said in a situation report published late Sunday that the risk was
    In a footnote, the WHO said there had been an “error” in previous communications published on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday which “incorrectly” said the global risk was “moderate.”

    This might be interesting for you

    https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1221817985196679169


  • #576
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    iamgroot wrote: »
    I'm in a province next to Wuhan city, had to rebook our flights to return early in case the hysteria keeps spreading. :)

    Had a bad cough the last few days though. Hope its just lung cancer and not the deadly coronavirus!

    I like those odds! Would ye like to go for a pint when ye get back. No seriously hope it all goes well.


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  • #577
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    What’s the consensus? Too much panic, not enough


  • #578
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,908 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Ipso wrote: »
    What’s the consensus? Too much panic, not enough

    Don't know really, but following the thread with curiosity. :)

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #579
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    If this thread starts getting quiet I'm just gonna assume the worst


  • #580
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Ipso wrote: »
    What’s the consensus? Too much panic, not enough

    Hard to tell, there are more cases reported everyday and the number seems to be doubling, China has extended their national holiday, and shopping centres and businesses are closing early all across China not just Wuhan. Schools don't know when they'll reopen and going out is strongly discouraged. The disease seems highly transmittable and the deathtoll so far seems like a conservative number I guess. For the western world it's probably not that serious, but for Wuhan and other major cities in China it's probably a major concern.


  • #581
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    The virus will land here but we won't get any confirmed cases until about a year or so after, as we'd be too nice to say anything about it. Just an auld dose Mary, few hot whiskeys will sort me out.


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  • #582
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Ipso wrote: »
    What’s the consensus? Too much panic, not enough

    Well there have been dozens of cases outside China now and none have been badly affected. It seems to be much less contagious outside China and much less deadly, makes me think it may have thrived in China in poor /unhygienic living conditions and a susceptible population due to the effect that intense pollution has on their lungs. Despite it looking like a fairly mild virus it seems like the reaction from the Chinese authorities was for the best for their situation.


  • #583
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »
    Bit of an aul typo or a slight 'mispoke' incident, ah sure.

    The World Health Organization said on Monday the global risk from the deadly virus in China was “high,” admitting an error in its previous reports that said it was “moderate.”
    The U.N. health body said in a situation report published late Sunday that the risk was
    In a footnote, the WHO said there had been an “error” in previous communications published on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday which “incorrectly” said the global risk was “moderate.”

    That is just..absurd!


  • #584
    scamalert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭scamalert


    some people play to much pandemic seems, even if doing simple maths say theres 5000 infected in 14mill city thats only like 0.28% if we add mortality rates from infection that goes down to smth like 0.000001, prob better chances to win euro millions then to catch a virus, month or two once temps pickup will be forgotten.


  • #585
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Let's hope that the main casualty will be the open office workplace if companies start losing entire floors of people at home for a week or two recovering.


  • #586
    Dante7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    scamalert wrote: »
    some people play to much pandemic seems, even if doing simple maths say theres 5000 infected in 14mill city thats only like 0.28% if we add mortality rates from infection that goes down to smth like 0.000001, prob better chances to win euro millions then to catch a virus, month or two once temps pickup will be forgotten.

    You have no idea what you are talking about. Do you understand reproductive values, incubation periods, airborne virus size, secondary h2h transmissions, pandemic conditions? Unless you do, you are in no position to be commenting on the dangers of this. If you did understand the above, you wouldn't have posted such nonsense.


  • #587
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    scamalert wrote: »
    some people play to much pandemic seems, even if doing simple maths say theres 5000 infected in 14mill city thats only like 0.28% if we add mortality rates from infection that goes down to smth like 0.000001, prob better chances to win euro millions then to catch a virus, month or two once temps pickup will be forgotten.

    how's your exponents and inverse-communist arithmetic?

    So the CCP are hysterical? they're effectively shutting large swathes of the country down and quarantining at least one whole city for a euromillions chance that anyone gets the sniffles?

    All indications point to a serious problem for the CCP and chinese people. They are not only the direct effects of the illness but the potential social unrest, logistical problems, potential panic. Everything is fine until it isn't.


  • #588
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Ipso wrote: »
    What’s the consensus? Too much panic, not enough

    I think it's time we crack each others heads open and feast on the goo inside.

    That's just me though.


  • #589
    Dante7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    scamalert wrote: »
    some people play to much pandemic seems, even if doing simple maths say theres 5000 infected in 14mill city thats only like 0.28% if we add mortality rates from infection that goes down to smth like 0.000001, prob better chances to win euro millions then to catch a virus, month or two once temps pickup will be forgotten.

    Actually, to stick with your euromillions analogy, if the lotto was held every day, and you bought one ticket each day, but each day your chance of winning increased by 2.6, how many days would it take for you to win the jackpot? When you understand the surprising answer to this, you will understand the risk.


  • #590
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    scamalert wrote: »
    some people play to much pandemic seems, even if doing simple maths say theres 5000 infected in 14mill city thats only like 0.28% if we add mortality rates from infection that goes down to smth like 0.000001, prob better chances to win euro millions then to catch a virus, month or two once temps pickup will be forgotten.

    Umm..that might be the case if it was certain that there would be no more infections. I dont get your logic at all. Also many illnesses are not affected by the weather. There will be thousands of more infections in China, without a doubt,probably hundreds more deaths, it's predicted to only peak in number by April, but it looks to be contained within China . The 'panic' or hysterics is totally warranted in China imo.


  • #591
    Dante7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    Dante7 wrote: »
    Actually, to stick with your euromillions analogy, if the lotto was held every day, and you bought one ticket each day, but each day your chance of winning increased by 2.6, how many days would it take for you to win the jackpot? When you understand the surprising answer to this, you will understand the risk.

    The answer is 20 days.


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  • #592
    marvin80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭marvin80


    Some of the comments in here remind me of this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ1koU26aeY


  • #593
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Just watching watching World War Z, for some pointers just in case...


  • #594
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    I don't know whether or not to be concerned about this virus, not that being worried would have the slightest benefit anyway. At the moment I am not concerned, maybe that is foolish, a couple of weeks will tell. Slightly as a sideline to all talk about a pandemic etc I found this video quite moving. The people in Wuhan gathering at night and shouting encouragement to each other from their effective mass quarantine. Wuhan JiaYou means Wuhan come on! Or Wuhan we can do this...

    https://twitter.com/leo_fasu/status/1221866043657740288?s=19


  • #595
    1800_Ladladlad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,463 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Just watching watching World War Z, for some pointers just in case...


    That's the spirit. Watching contagion myself.


  • #596
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    how's your exponents and inverse-communist arithmetic?

    So the CCP are hysterical? they're effectively shutting large swathes of the country down and quarantining at least one whole city for a euromillions chance that anyone gets the sniffles?

    All indications point to a serious problem for the CCP and chinese people. They are not only the direct effects of the illness but the potential social unrest, logistical problems, potential panic. Everything is fine until it isn't.


    The part in bold is the most important. I feel like the Chinese don't have small unrest, it all just boils over and goes 100 % :P


  • #597
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    God, I have turned into such a conspiracy theorist.



    https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/1/25/african-swine-fever-pork-dumplings-manila-china.html


    I was kind of side-eying the news peice wondering if this was true, or just a strange tit for tat over the fight over the south China sea.


  • #598
    Dante7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    creditcarder wrote: »
    God, I have turned into such a conspiracy theorist.



    https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/1/25/african-swine-fever-pork-dumplings-manila-china.html


    I was kind of side-eying the news peice wondering if this was true, or just a strange tit for tat over the fight over the south China sea.

    More crap. It came from bats. Here's a Ladybird explanation.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-sars-bats-animals-to-humans-2020-1


  • #599
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Dante7 wrote: »
    More crap. It came from bats. Here's a Ladybird explanation.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-sars-bats-animals-to-humans-2020-1

    They weren't saying it was the cause, read it as more zero sanitary food conditions/traceability when it comes to China ala this virus


  • #600
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,967 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Confirmed case in Perth tonight.


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  • #601
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Confirmed case in Perth tonight.


    Scotland?


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