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Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

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    #3692
    Scottmactom
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    Tracy's been good but Kelleher is by far the best options at 2 when he is available.


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    #3693
    arsebiscuits1
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    Scottmactom wrote: »
    Tracy's been good but Kelleher is by far the best options at 2 when he is available.

    Not sure anyone would disagree with that!


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    #3694
    Exclamation Marc
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    arsebiscuits1 wrote: »
    Can be disappointed to have missed out on Ireland squad, I'd have had him on par with Herring and well ahead of Heffernan this year

    He's still a good bit behind Kelleher despite Kelleher being new to the set up.

    He has had a good year but he's inconsistent. It could be a crucial season for him though when Kelleher is back as he looks to be Leinsters third choice hooker (although saying that, Cronin seems to be getting fewer starts).


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    #3695
    Exclamation Marc
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    thebaz wrote: »
    is Kelleher injured ??

    Hand injury I believe in Northampton game still keeping him out.


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    #3696
    molloyjh
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    Due back next week apparently.


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    #3697
    KaneToad
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    vienne86 wrote: »
    I used it a few times last season, and when I asked Leinster about it this season, I was told that Ticketmaster have discontinued it. It's a real pity.
    Exclamation Marc wrote: »
    Unsurprising really that it was a Ticketmaster decision. Thanks for letting us know though. Was still slightly concerned that I just couldnt find the link anymore!

    Money talks.

    I'd like the clubs to be more supporter friendly and maintain services like fora for season ticket seat sales for one off games. But I also want the team to maximise revenues and keep performing well on and off the pitch! I can't have it every way :)


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    #3698
    arsebiscuits1
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    Exclamation Marc wrote: »
    He's still a good bit behind Kelleher despite Kelleher being new to the set up.

    He has had a good year but he's inconsistent. It could be a crucial season for him though when Kelleher is back as he looks to be Leinsters third choice hooker (although saying that, Cronin seems to be getting fewer starts).

    He hasn't really been inconsistent though.

    He has 12 appearances this season so far which is among the most in the squad and he's probably playing the best rugby of his career.

    But he should be looking over his shoulder. Dan Sheehan is on his way apparently


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    #3699
    Clegg
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    Looks like Lyon are sending the reserves for Sunday's game.

    https://twitter.com/LeLOURugby/status/1215609363966111746?s=19


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    #3700
    molloyjh
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    Clegg wrote: »
    Looks like Lyon are sending the reserves for Sunday's game.

    https://twitter.com/LeLOURugby/status/1215609363966111746?s=19

    Yep. As expected.


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    #3701
    sydthebeat
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    leinster gone from -30 originally to -40 now

    surely thats too long??? even if Lyon are disinterested?


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    #3702
    Exclamation Marc
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    leinster gone from -30 originally to -40 now

    surely thats too long??? even if Lyon are disinterested?

    Seems inordinately long.


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    #3703
    molloyjh
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    leinster gone from -30 originally to -40 now

    surely thats too long??? even if Lyon are disinterested?

    I wouldnt think so. We're putting 40-50 on most teams in the RDS, even when they are interested. We're looking to maximise our return here so I def see us running up a score. If we can be as mean in defence as we have been most of the season they may end up getting very little themselves.


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    #3704
    sydthebeat
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    Exclamation Marc wrote: »
    Seems inordinately long.

    Lyon wont be leaving with a duck egg.... so even assuming Leinster run riot, Lyon will be proud enough to keep on going...

    i can see something similar to that ulster debacle where leinster get 30 -35 points ahead with say 15 mins left and Lyon run in a couple of last consolations which will spoil that spread.


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    #3705
    sydthebeat
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    We're putting 40-50 on most teams in the RDS, even when they are interested. .

    putting points on wont be an issue......
    but even putting 50 on the board means holding Lyon to a one unconverted try and one pen in order to beat that spread.

    I can only see value in the lyon side of that spread, but of course, i wont be putting anything on it :)


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    #3706
    arsebiscuits1
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Lyon wont be leaving with a duck egg.... so even assuming Leinster run riot, Lyon will be proud enough to keep on going...

    i can see something similar to that ulster debacle where leinster get 30 -35 points ahead with say 15 mins left and Lyon run in a couple of last consolations which will spoil that spread.

    I think harsh lessons were learned from that Ulster game.

    The lack of ball we had against Connacht in the second half was partially tactical I'd wager.

    When you're that far ahead you'll learn more from defending than scoring 12 more tries.

    I can't see these boys taking their foot off the gas against Lyon for a second


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    #3707
    ionadnapokot
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    arsebiscuits1 wrote: »
    This Deegan Doris battle is a joy to watch this season

    Conan disagrees!

    I find it mad that Deegan has already played nearly 60 games. & more times than Fardy!


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    #3708
    durkadurka
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    Clegg wrote: »
    Looks like Lyon are sending the reserves for Sunday's game.

    https://twitter.com/LeLOURugby/status/1215609363966111746?s=19

    Does anyone know how much of a reserve team this is?


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    #3709
    vienne86
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    Nice team! I thought JGP might start, but like others here, delighted for Tracy. It strikes me that he has just worked really hard to get his spot back.


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    #3710
    molloyjh
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    putting points on wont be an issue......
    but even putting 50 on the board means holding Lyon to a one unconverted try and one pen in order to beat that spread.

    I can only see value in the lyon side of that spread, but of course, i wont be putting anything on it :)

    Let's not forget that, with a strong side and something to play for, it took them 70 mins to score in the reverse fixture.


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    #3711
    prawnsambo
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    ionadnapokot wrote: »
    Conan disagrees!

    I find it mad that Deegan has already played nearly 60 games. & more times than Fardy!
    It's one of those features at Leinster since Joe Schmidt. Lads getting a game or a bench spot here and there until before you know it, they're 50 caps up and jostling for a starting position.


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    #3712
    awec
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    This is going to be a total non event.


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    #3713
    stephen_n
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    awec wrote: »
    This is going to be a total non event.

    You’re like a broken record at this stage :)


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    #3714
    awec
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    stephen_n wrote: »
    You’re like a broken record at this stage :)

    When was the last time a team genuinely threatened to beat Leinster at home?

    A 40 points spread for a Heineken Cup game involving the second best team in France is nuts.


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    #3715
    Quin_Dub
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    durkadurka wrote: »
    Does anyone know how much of a reserve team this is?

    Well..

    Looking at the squad , some big name players missing would be

    Liam Gill
    Jean-Marc Doussin
    Demba Bamba
    Rudi Wulf
    Carl Ferns
    Joshua Tuisova
    Charles Ngatai

    The last 3 were explicitly mentioned by Lancaster earlier in the week as key players.

    Don't know how many of the above are maybe injured , but it looks like it's a good way off anything like full strength.


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    #3716
    stephen_n
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    awec wrote: »
    When was the last time a team genuinely threatened to beat Leinster at home?

    Treviso

    How often do Ulster lose at home?


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    #3717
    molloyjh
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    durkadurka wrote: »
    Does anyone know how much of a reserve team this is?

    11 changes to the starting XV from the reverse fixture. It's very much the reserves. LH is a 23 TH and has only played once this season (off the bench vs Benetton). Hooker is 24 and has all of 9 mins this season. Roland at 4 is 21 and as far as I can tell he's uncapped. And that's just in the tight five. At 13 they have a 20 yo winger earning his second cap, his first in the centre.


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    #3718
    durkadurka
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    11 changes to the starting XV from the reverse fixture. It's very much the reserves. LH is a 23 TH and has only played once this season (off the bench vs Benetton). Hooker is 24 and has all of 9 mins this season. Roland at 4 is 21 and as far as I can tell he's uncapped. And that's just in the tight five. At 13 they have a 20 yo winger earning his second cap, his first in the centre.

    We wouldn’t even go to Zebre with that sort of a team


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    #3719
    molloyjh
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    durkadurka wrote: »
    We wouldn’t even go to Zebre with that sort of a team

    Yeah it turns the game into a non-event as awec said.

    Jesus that's twice in as many weeks I've agreed with awec. I'm going to have to watch out for that....


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    #3720
    stephen_n
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    Yeah it turns the game into a non-event as awec said.

    Jesus that's twice in as many weeks I've agreed with awec. I'm going to have to watch out for that....

    Maybe Lyon will do an Ulster, not bother defending and just go for a TBP.


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    #3721
    awec
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    stephen_n wrote: »
    Maybe Lyon will do an Ulster, not bother defending and just go for a TBP.

    They are pretty much out of it at this stage, I would think they'll definitely just have a go of it and try to score tries. The result is of no consequence to them really.


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