Seems like a good deal on firewood....

Glebee · 31-12-2019 3:30pm

Some body gave me two bags of kiln dried Bord Na Mona fire logs before for Christmas, just left thim in the shed as had no immediate need for them. Opened them this morning to find moss still on some of the cut logs..... Put the moistiure meter on and gave reading of ove 50 per cent moisture. How the fcuk can Bord na Mona sell these as Kiln dried as still have moss growing on them or am I missing something?????

BorneTobyWilde · 31-12-2019 5:36pm

Glebee wrote: »

Some body gave me two bags of kiln dried Bord Na Mona fire logs before for Christmas, just left thim in the shed as had no immediate need for them. Opened them this morning to find moss still on some of the cut logs..... Put the moistiure meter on and gave reading of ove 50 per cent moisture. How the fcuk can Bord na Mona sell these as Kiln dried as still have moss growing on them or am I missing something?????

Yea, you live in Ireland .

An Ri rua · 31-12-2019 5:58pm

Glebee wrote: »

Some body gave me two bags of kiln dried Bord Na Mona fire logs before for Christmas, just left thim in the shed as had no immediate need for them. Opened them this morning to find moss still on some of the cut logs..... Put the moistiure meter on and gave reading of ove 50 per cent moisture. How the fcuk can Bord na Mona sell these as Kiln dried as still have moss growing on them or am I missing something?????

Very much doubt (hope) they wouldn't sell anything above 20% as kiln-dried. Much more likely that someone stored them outdoors for s period. IE the reseller. Air dried wood sitting a year would be down to 30ish.

Glebee · 31-12-2019 6:10pm

An Ri rua wrote: »

Very much doubt (hope) they wouldn't sell anything above 20% as kiln-dried. Much more likely that someone stored them outdoors for s period. IE the reseller. Air dried wood sitting a year would be down to 30ish.

There in plastic Bord Na Mona bags, moss evident on logs seem to suggest it was never near a kiln. Even if they were stored outside the plastic would protect a bit against the moisture. These look freshly cut to me. I know if I had bought them, they would be going straight back. Some one is chancing there arm.

These are what they look like.https://www.topline.ie/plumbing-heating/cooling-heating/fuels/wood-fuels/bord-na-mona/kiln-dried-hardwood-logs
Not saying anything against Topline, no idea where the person who gave them to me got them

Muahahaha · 31-12-2019 7:50pm

Glebee wrote: »

There in plastic Bord Na Mona bags, moss evident on logs seem to suggest it was never near a kiln. Even if they were stored outside the plastic would protect a bit against the moisture. These look freshly cut to me. I know if I had bought them, they would be going straight back. Some one is chancing there arm.

No expert on this but would have thought that storing logs outside in sealed plastic bags would be an ideal environment for moss to form. With no proper ventilation there could have been a permanent dew on the inside of the bag creating a high damp humidity which moss would thrive on. Not saying thats what happened, just think it is possible.

stovecoal · 02-01-2020 1:33pm

Came across this post on Facebook. Cotter Bros Firewood in Limerick are increasing their prices for 2020.

They are a member of WFQA (Wood Fuel Quality Assurance) www.wfqa.org - which means all air dried firewood is less than 25% moisture.

In the post below Cotter mention focusing on kiln dried wood in the future as proposed new regulations mean wood over 25% will be banned and eventually over 20% will be banned.

I reckon other firewood suppliers will making changes like this soon.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1520480401434753&id=254379584711514

Cape Clear · 02-01-2020 5:59pm

Glebee wrote: »

Some body gave me two bags of kiln dried Bord Na Mona fire logs before for Christmas, just left thim in the shed as had no immediate need for them. Opened them this morning to find moss still on some of the cut logs..... Put the moistiure meter on and gave reading of ove 50 per cent moisture. How the fcuk can Bord na Mona sell these as Kiln dried as still have moss growing on them or am I missing something?????

where does one get a moisture metre and how much do they cost

Mickeroo · 02-01-2020 6:13pm

Cape Clear wrote: »

where does one get a moisture metre and how much do they cost

Amazon, between 10 and 20 euro.

vicwatson · 02-01-2020 6:14pm

Cape Clear wrote: »

where does one get a moisture metre and how much do they cost

Lidl and ALDI have them every so often and I think about a tenner

stovecoal · 02-01-2020 6:14pm

Cape Clear wrote: »

where does one get a moisture metre and how much do they cost

Amazon - I have this one - £17

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brennenstuhl-1298680-Moisture-Detector-MD/dp/B003CSNV2Q/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Brennenstuhl&qid=1577985185&sr=8-1

Grumpypants · 02-01-2020 6:38pm

Over the hump of the wintertime and ending the extra time at home over the Christmas period and I still have about 40% of the original Co-Op pallet left.

The mild winter played a factor but i've used a fraction of the oil of previous years.

I'd saved about €1k in home heating oil by putting in extra insulation and smart thermostats. The firewood prob brought that down by another 400.

the.red.baron · 02-01-2020 6:59pm

Grumpypants wrote: »

Over the hump of the wintertime and ending the extra time at home over the Christmas period and I still have about 40% of the original Co-Op pallet left.

The mild winter played a factor but i've used a fraction of the oil of previous years.

I'd saved about €1k in home heating oil by putting in extra insulation and smart thermostats. The firewood prob brought that down by another 400.

you saved a grand/1400? down from what?

is your gaff massive or did you have the heating on 24? that's big money

its hard to see how smart thermostats save much really, TRVs on each room as good as it gets really

bailey99 · 02-01-2020 9:39pm

Any good deals on wood in the cork area please? I'm a newbie to wood stoves so any advice welcome. What's the best wood to buy etc? Thanks!

tinner777 · 03-01-2020 9:46pm

bailey99 wrote: »

Any good deals on wood in the cork area please? I'm a newbie to wood stoves so any advice welcome. What's the best wood to buy etc? Thanks!

tinner777 wrote: »

Pallets of (1m³) Hand Stacked Kiln Dried Hardwood
€180 delivered free
Murphy's fuels macroom
http://www.murphysfuelsmacroom.com/

Any value in the above??

still have half of it

laros · 09-01-2020 7:44pm

where does one get a moisture metre and how much do they cost

Aldi will have them as a special buy next Thursday 16th January €11.99 they are advertised in the leaflet.

Muahahaha · 09-01-2020 10:16pm

stovecoal wrote: »

Came across this post on Facebook. Cotter Bros Firewood in Limerick are increasing their prices for 2020.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1520480401434753&id=254379584711514

Had looked at Cotters in Limerick before last September but as far as I can remember they werent doing nationwide delivery back then but they are now. From your link they are doing 2.1m3 delivered for 240 euro. Given the best on this thread was 199 for 1.2m3 that seems excellent value for money. It is even cheaper for people in the Limerick/north Kerry area as delivery costs are a lot lower.

Hows everyone getting on with their supply. Its been a mild enough winter so I havent been burning as much as I thought. Have about half of a 1.2m3 crate left. Not sure if it will get me though all the way to the end of March and especially not if we get a long cold snap. Might have to top up with 10 net bags from Woodies or similar at some stage in spring.

deisedav · 10-01-2020 1:59am

Muahahaha wrote: »

Had looked at Cotters in Limerick before last September but as far as I can remember they werent doing nationwide delivery back then but they are now. From your link they are doing 2.1m3 delivered for 240 euro. Given the best on this thread was 199 for 1.2m3 that seems excellent value for money. It is even cheaper for people in the Limerick/north Kerry area as delivery costs are a lot lower.

Hows everyone getting on with their supply. Its been a mild enough winter so I havent been burning as much as I thought. Have about half of a 1.2m3 crate left. Not sure if it will get me though all the way to the end of March and especially not if we get a long cold snap. Might have to top up with 10 net bags from Woodies or similar at some stage in spring.

I stand to be corrected on this but i think the cotters only do softwood. Running low enough on timber myself, got a pallet of net bags from surefirewood last time and will be using them next time too. Not the cheapest you can get but found the quality of wood to be excellent. A mix of oak, ash and beech with the logs a good size, not too big and not too small and all cut to the same length which is handy for stacking

Rock Paper Scissors · 10-01-2020 7:41am

Can anyone recommend a good log supplier around the Dublin area or who delivers to the Dublin area?..

Thanks lads

Still waters · 10-01-2020 7:58am

Anyone buying ton bags of hardwood or softwood, how much are they asking now, theres a guy near me selling both in ton bags, 80 for hardwood(ash or beech i think)and 70 for softwood (spruce) seems ok to me, but he did say buy now and dont use until next winter so they must not be fully dry yet

fulhamfan · 10-01-2020 7:32pm

Rock Paper Scissors wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a good log supplier around the Dublin area or who delivers to the Dublin area?..

Thanks lads

http://www.turftimber.com/
Hard to beat these guys who delver free Dublin and Kildare. I've used last three years and the kiln dried is less than 10% moisture, not a spark in sight!!!

starbaby2003 · 10-01-2020 7:54pm

Rock Paper Scissors wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a good log supplier around the Dublin area or who delivers to the Dublin area?..

Thanks lads

We have used the Coop and find them good.

Rock Paper Scissors · 10-01-2020 8:11pm

starbaby2003 wrote: »

We have used the Coop and find them good.

Got a link?

starbaby2003 · 10-01-2020 8:15pm

Rock Paper Scissors wrote: »

Got a link?

Here you go https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Crates--Hardwood-Firewood-Logs/Calor-Crate-Of-Kiln-Dried-Beech-Logs-430kg-0052421

HighLine · 11-01-2020 4:15pm

Rock Paper Scissors wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a good log supplier around the Dublin area or who delivers to the Dublin area?..

Thanks lads

https://www.delahuntlogs.com/

Supercell · 12-01-2020 10:14am

HighLine wrote: »

https://www.delahuntlogs.com/

I've been getting my logs from Kieran for years now, lovely guy, great quality wood and always delivers on time.

u140acro3xs7dm · 12-01-2020 10:41am

Supercell wrote: »

I've been getting my logs from Kieran for years now, lovely guy, great quality wood and always delivers on time.

Me too, he will also wheel them around the back, if the side entrance is wide enough. Saves an hour of handballing them around.

Most of the lads just leave them at the end of the driveway, or worse just tip the bag off the side of the truck.

corks finest · 12-01-2020 5:22pm

tinner777 wrote: »

still have half of it

Wonder do you know if he delivers far ? Or just local I'm in Carrigaline ,some great coal deals there,thank you,I'll ring him aswell

corks finest · 12-01-2020 5:25pm

starbaby2003 wrote: »

Here you go https://www.coopsuperstores.ie/Crates--Hardwood-Firewood-Logs/Calor-Crate-Of-Kiln-Dried-Beech-Logs-430kg-0052421

Co op is ok at different times for deals,but mostly they are more expensive than local coal suppliers

corks finest · 12-01-2020 5:28pm

https://www.mdoshea.ie/sale/4-bags-of-40kg-supertherm-smokeless-coal-for-65-euro md o Shea's , another few hours left,just got email otherwise I'd have been out like a light

Supercell · 12-01-2020 5:40pm

corks finest wrote: »

https://www.mdoshea.ie/sale/4-bags-of-40kg-supertherm-smokeless-coal-for-65-euro md o Shea's , another few hours left,just got email otherwise I'd have been out like a light

Are you lost?, this is the firewood thread!

uck51js9zml2yt · 12-01-2020 6:00pm

corks finest wrote: »

https://www.mdoshea.ie/sale/4-bags-of-40kg-supertherm-smokeless-coal-for-65-euro md o Shea's , another few hours left,just got email otherwise I'd have been out like a light

Thanks for posting(in the wrong thread). Got 4 bags

Kalyke · 12-01-2020 7:57pm

Supercell wrote: »

Are you lost?, this is the firewood thread!

They also sell firewood... https://www.mdoshea.ie/Fuel/timber-1

OmegaGene · 12-01-2020 8:34pm

corks finest wrote: »

https://www.mdoshea.ie/sale/4-bags-of-40kg-supertherm-smokeless-coal-for-65-euro md o Shea's , another few hours left,just got email otherwise I'd have been out like a light

Decent price but I missed the fecker

uck51js9zml2yt · 12-01-2020 9:09pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

Decent price but I missed the fecker

Still saying 65 when I click on the link. You just need quantity 1 for 4 bags

OmegaGene · 12-01-2020 9:17pm

Donovan Screeching Whimsy wrote: »

Still saying 65 when I click on the link. You just need quantity 1 for 4 bags

Website hasn’t updated yet that’s all, the deal was weekend collection from years only

uck51js9zml2yt · 12-01-2020 9:18pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

Website hasn’t updated yet that’s all, the deal was weekend collection from years only

I ordered online for collection. I'll pick up during the week.

corks finest · 12-01-2020 9:45pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

Decent price but I missed the fecker

Same here

corks finest · 12-01-2020 9:46pm

Donovan Screeching Whimsy wrote: »

I ordered online for collection. I'll pick up during the week.

Crafty ðŸ˜ˆ, never thought of that,assumed that you had to click and collect same day

corks finest · 12-01-2020 9:56pm

Donovan Screeching Whimsy wrote: »

Thanks for posting(in the wrong thread). Got 4 bags

Sorry ref wrong thread

uck51js9zml2yt · 12-01-2020 11:44pm

corks finest wrote: »

Sorry ref wrong thread

Don't apologize.. I probably wouldn't have spotted it

gooner99 · 18-01-2020 12:08pm

Hi. Anyone know of any good deals on hardwood or kiln dried hardwood in Donegal or nationwide with a good delivered price to Donegal.

I'm currently using bags of Hayes Kiln dried hardwood at €5 a bag locally. Unfortunately they only sell by the bag. Not sure if that's good or bad value and if I should just continue to buy the bags at this price or go for bulk?

Link to bags I'm buying, not the same vendor.

https://www.countrylife.ie/shop/product/Hayes-Kiln-Dried-Hardwood-Logs/9101657?gclid=Cj0KCQiA9orxBRD0ARIsAK9JDxTVGXCg7M852G5T-KB-dLcDkeS5efDcLlR16UH0fNwnSioZJ_cczKQaApu0EALw_wcB

Thanks.

bailey99 · 30-01-2020 12:56am

Just wondering where best to store a 1m cubed crate if wooden blocks?

I was going to put it in a steeltech shed, will that cause issues?

Also how do u best store a large quantity of wooden blocks for a stove?

Muahahaha · 30-01-2020 10:14pm

If the steel shed has good ventilation then you should be grand putting them in there. I got the moisture meter from Aldi last week and from doing a bit of testing the single best thing to do to ensure you are burning dry wood is to bring logs indoors 2-3 weeks before you intend burning them. Had four data points-

-Logs that were stored outside in an open faced log store had 20-26% moisture
-Logs moved inside for a week 15-18%
-Inside for two weeks 11-15%
-Inside for three weeks 8-11%

I bought this log store a while back and it holds about 0.15m3 which stores enough logs for me for fires over a 2-3 week period
https://www.vidaxl.ie/e/8719883683027/vidaxl-firewood-rack-black-50x20x150-cm-steel

bailey99 · 31-01-2020 12:56pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

I bought this log store a while back and it holds about 0.15m3 which stores enough logs for me for fires over a 2-3 week period
https://www.vidaxl.ie/e/8719883683027/vidaxl-firewood-rack-black-50x20x150-cm-steel

That's gorgeous.

Cloudio9 · 31-01-2020 2:37pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

If the steel shed has good ventilation then you should be grand putting them in there. I got the moisture meter from Aldi last week and from doing a bit of testing the single best thing to do to ensure you are burning dry wood is to bring logs indoors 2-3 weeks before you intend burning them. Had four data points-

-Logs that were stored outside in an open faced log store had 20-26% moisture
-Logs moved inside for a week 15-18%
-Inside for two weeks 11-15%
-Inside for three weeks 8-11%

I bought this log store a while back and it holds about 0.15m3 which stores enough logs for me for fires over a 2-3 week period
https://www.vidaxl.ie/e/8719883683027/vidaxl-firewood-rack-black-50x20x150-cm-steel

The moisture meter can only measure just below the surface, you're not really getting a drop in moisture like that over 3 weeks.

d31b0y · 31-01-2020 2:40pm

Cloudio9 wrote: »

The moisture meter can only measure just below the surface, you're not really getting a drop in moisture like that over 3 weeks.

Aren't you supposed to split a fresh log and measure straight away with a moisture meter? I don't disagree with you regarding the moisture drop over the course of a couple of weeks. Seems like a lot.

Found this, but I think they are doing it wrong too as you aren't supposed to measure along the grain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-NDgwJnC1I

An Ri rua · 01-02-2020 9:17pm

Cloudio9 wrote: »

The moisture meter can only measure just below the surface, you're not really getting a drop in moisture like that over 3 weeks.

I'm not sure I agree with that. Sure, it'll be drier on the surface than inside. But it'll be a lot drier overall, as pointed out.

I had blackthorn, whitethorn and elm stored outside all last year (in a wood store that I made myself simply from 4 pallets, heavy duty cable ties and a Lidl /Aldi car cover as a roof tarp over the sloped roof pallet. I have it backing against a concrete wall and caught by a pillar. V snug and quick to dis/assemble) and about every fortnight I bring in as much as I can to finish drying inside.
I dry it in large tubs and sat around the hearth and on top of storage heater bricks. It is close to bone dry within a fortnight when it's burned. I know by the weight of it and the burn.
To offset the air drying nature of an Eco Grate, I keep a bowl of water up on the mantelpiece. It drinks a mug's worth a week. So there's plenty of drying going on. 5+KW of radiant and convected heat.

I missed out on the Aldi meter. Gone when I went? Much good or just as good on Amazon?

Muahahaha · 02-02-2020 6:39pm

An Ri rua wrote: »

I missed out on the Aldi meter. Gone when I went? Much good or just as good on Amazon?

For 12 quid and a 3 year warranty you cant go far wrong. Have a search around the middle aisles, my local Aldi had some left last Tuesday. Otherwise Amazon though I think they cost a little bit more there.

Fingers Mcginty · 12-02-2020 10:41am

Are these decent prices?

https://goodwoodfuel.com/product/ash-firewood/

mph_96 · 27-02-2020 2:32pm

Hi All,

Has anyone used Surefirewood?? They appear to have a base in Northern Ireland. Prices seem good but Im wondering about the quality.

https://surefirewood.ie/collections/premium-kiln-dried-firewood-bulk-bags-and-pallets-delivered-to-your-door/products/premium-hardwood-1?variant=31150935703606

Thanks

M

Seems like a good deal on firewood....

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