When did Ireland get so pretentious?

GeetarPick · 29-12-2019 02:30AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Unfortunately for you the next crash will never be as bad as the last....so your wasting your time

With economic genius such as yours I better buy buy buy!!!

con___manx1 · 29-12-2019 02:46AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Not better than everyone but maybe better than you ?

I doubt he cares if you have lost respect for him...He has all that money and lovely new friends who also make loads of money..... :-)

Not really pal. I earn a good wage. I went through college and all that craic.
I don't radically change my accent or personality to fit in at work.
I am who I am and that's it.
Anyone that does that is just a sheep in my eyes anyway. Baa baa baa

ILoveYourVibes · 29-12-2019 02:47AM

Honestly its about time we irish got some notions

v638sg7k1a92bx · 29-12-2019 02:50AM

Damien360 wrote: »

You went away for a few years and were horrified the locals were no longer on donkeys looking at the big man back from his travels to shower the yokels with his talk of riches in far off places. Were you back to buy a field by any chance ? ‘Tis mine.

Its worse now because they’re still donkeys but they try and dress themselves up as stallions.

We’re like a version of the Royle family who have suddenly come into money and then try and dress ourselves up and show how cultured we now are and then the new thing is food, everyone is an expert on food and the best place to eat and then there is the dress sense. We have no sense of what clothes are appropriate for what time of year and lads going to weddings with the light coloured suit in the middle of December with no socks imagining himself on lake como.

ILoveYourVibes · 29-12-2019 02:54AM

Braelynn Wrong Iron wrote: »

Its worse now because they’re still donkeys but they try and dress themselves up as stallions.

We’re like a version of the Royle family who have suddenly come into money and then try and dress ourselves up and show how cultured we now are and then the new thing is food, everyone is an expert on food and the best place to eat and then there is the dress sense. We have no sense of what clothes are appropriate for what time of year and lads going to weddings with the light coloured suit in the middle of December with no socks imagining himself on lake como.

Oh well that is different.

I know what you mean. Its one thing to say you know something about what you know. Its another to claim you know everything about everything.

Usually people have one thing they are cultured about be it food or music or books or clothes art etc.

Few people are truly cultured about everything.

If you can enjoy something and understand it that is a lovely thing. But if you are pretending just to know about everything to be 'cultured' that is actually crass.

tonycascarino · 29-12-2019 02:54AM

Braelynn Wrong Iron wrote: »

Its worse now because they’re still donkeys but they try and dress themselves up as stallions.

That is the perfect quote to describe the current situation

ILoveYourVibes · 29-12-2019 02:58AM

tonycascarino wrote: »

That is the perfect quote to describe modern Ireland

lol

I am quite deffo a donkey

A pink one!

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s7ryf3925pivug · 29-12-2019 10:37AM

All that has changed is that more people have enough money to facilitate their inner pretentious twat. You can be "artsy" or "spiritual" while being poor, but most forms of pretentiousness need a bit of dosh.

Mister Vain · 29-12-2019 10:44AM

The only pretentious thing I've noticed recently, if you can call it that, is all the posh coffee drinkers. Nobody seems to drink tay anymore.

whisky_galore · 29-12-2019 10:46AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Irish people were sounder and happier in the past. Its become an individualistic pressure cooker of a society where personal achievement takes priority over all else and where homelessness is tolerated and people don't care about their neighbours or take their head out of their phones on public transport, yet they pat themselves on the back for how liberal and progressive and therefore nice people they are.

The past where people would put members of their own family into mother and baby homes and Laundries because of what the parish priest or neighbours might think? That's sound.

irishgrover · 29-12-2019 11:16AM

KWAG2019 wrote:

No itâ€™s not. It recognizes the insidious and ongoing threat of shoneenism, West Brits, quislings and unionists to the state won in blood and sacrifice 100 years ago. All of that promoted through BOD with his Lambeg, FG with a Minister of Justice upholding the RIC/DMP in the War of Independence and the media and politically correct revisionism of inclusion misapplied to those who oppressed ordinary Irish people. Nationalism is under attack from many sides and some of the posters here are part of it. And we know it.

It must be frustrating to see the reality of ireland being so far from the narrow minded, ultra nationalist state, that you so clearly dream of.....
You should try to broaden your horizons to minimise the chance of choking on your own bile.

KWAG2019 · 29-12-2019 11:19AM

irishgrover wrote: »

It must be frustrating to see the reality of ireland being so far from the narrow minded, ultra nationalist state, that you so clearly dream of.....
You should try to broaden your horizons to minimise the chance of choking on your own bile.

From a self admitted despiser of his own home place.

the beer revolu · 29-12-2019 11:30AM

KWAG2019 wrote: »

From a self admitted despiser of his own home place.

If you represent Ireland, I also despise Ireland and will continue to wish for change.

irishgrover · 29-12-2019 11:34AM

KWAG2019 wrote:

From a self admitted despiser of his own home place.

Haha, this is exactly what I'm talking about..... I said I live in the "arsehole of nowhere".... to any normal person that would indicate that I live in a very rural area. To you however, it indicates that I am a self loathing west Brit.......
As I said, try to broaden your horizons a little bit, it will do you the world of good..
You're entertaining, but not in a positive way

Mr. teddywinkles · 29-12-2019 11:43AM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

I blame the Celtic Tiger. People start bragging about how expensive their house was. Not everyone but there was a rise in it.
The common tax payer thought they were wealthy because the media and government told them they were.

I think RTE, the Sunday independent and politicians are ultimately responsible.
Rich people trying to relate to the average person badly.

This is peak though...

Mmm we're still being told were wealthy beside the fact of being one of the most debt ridden countries in Europe but hey can't keep a good snob down. Watch my fancy time piece swing back and forth. It's all an illusion.

MayoAreMagic · 29-12-2019 11:46AM

The range of responses this thread has produced is actually quite interesting. People seem to feel strongly on this, both for and against. It is funny too because the initial post was about some person who changed their accent deliberately and denied things that they clearly know actually happened, which is a fairly open and shut case of just someone who has turned into a sh*thouse who takes themselves a bit too seriously.

I think the image of some fella coming back from somewhere and ridiculing the locals (may not actually be the case but that is the assumption at play) has hit a nerve, and the fella taking himself too seriously has hit another one! Both are annoying quirks of our society but at least you only have to listen to the guy from oz once in a blue moon...

KWAG2019 · 29-12-2019 11:48AM

irishgrover wrote: »

Haha, this is exactly what I'm talking about..... I said I live in the "arsehole of nowhere".... to any normal person that would indicate that I live in a very rural area. To you however, it indicates that I am a self loathing west Brit.......
As I said, try to broaden your horizons a little bit, it will do you the world of good..
You're entertaining, but not in a positive way

You admitted more than you realise about yourself and your distorted self loathing. But keep digging by all means.

KWAG2019 · 29-12-2019 11:52AM

the beer revolu wrote: »

If you represent Ireland, I also despise Ireland and will continue to wish for change.

I suspect you already do. I see your revolution is to be about beer. That is truly funny.

Millicently · 29-12-2019 11:59AM

KWAG2019 wrote: »

No it’s not. It recognizes the insidious and ongoing threat of shoneenism, West Brits, quislings and unionists to the state won in blood and sacrifice 100 years ago. All of that promoted through BOD with his Lambeg, FG with a Minister of Justice upholding the RIC/DMP in the War of Independence and the media and politically correct revisionism of inclusion misapplied to those who oppressed ordinary Irish people. Nationalism is under attack from many sides and some of the posters here are part of it. And we know it.

Ah, and here we have the nub of the problem. You left and took your up THE RA crap with you, your friends grew out of that crap and you didn't. Now you're back and they don't want to know you because you are an embarrassing reminder of their past, a relic of the past that they feel mortified about being a part of. You should really get help for that chip on your shoulder.

v638sg7k1a92bx · 29-12-2019 12:02PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

The past where people would put members of their own family into mother and baby homes and Laundries because of what the parish priest or neighbours might think? That's sound.

Why is it that when someone refers to Ireland in previous years the millennial snowflakes try to invoke mother and baby homes, laundries and the Catholic Church which are things that have had no impact on their privileged existence and yet they refer to them as nausea. Why don’t you mention the Ireland where people we had our own culture of community, family and all the traditions that went with that instead of what we have now which is a Starbucks consumer spend driven society where everyone under the age of 35 has their face stuck in their phone.

irishgrover · 29-12-2019 12:04PM

KWAG2019 wrote: »

You admitted more than you realise about yourself and your distorted self loathing. But keep digging by all means.

I've admitted nothing about myself, apart from the from the fact that
A.) I live in rural Ireland
B.) I like most sports
C.) I'm not a cultural or religious bigot
D.) I'm not a narrow minded ultra nationalist self loathing gob****e

The only thing I'm every so slightly disappointed in my self about is continuing to engage in pointless tit for tat with people on the internet who probably deserve my pity instead of ire.
So respectfully, jog on, go for a walk, open your eyes, try something new, don't be so scared of the world, it's not that bad, people are generally nice and welcoming....
Your current approach of making **** up to match you naive and historically retarded political viewpoint is clearly not working....plus it's making you very angry and resentful....
I'm not engaging with you any more, so happy new year and all that :-)

whisky_galore · 29-12-2019 12:09PM

Braelynn Wrong Iron wrote: »

Why is it that when someone refers to Ireland in previous years the millennial snowflakes try to invoke mother and baby homes, laundries and the Catholic Church which are things that have had no impact on their privileged existence and yet they refer to them as nausea. Why don’t you mention the Ireland where people we had our own culture of community, family and all the traditions that went with that instead of what we have now which is a Starbucks consumer spend driven society where everyone under the age of 35 has their face stuck in their phone.

All those things happened in my lifetime, the last laundry only closed in the 1990s.
Perhaps if people weren't so easily led they might have their "culture". What is it that you are doing to halt this decline, hmm?

mvl · 29-12-2019 12:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think it happened around 2000. OP might be too young to remember when we switched from coffee to lattes.

- but wasn't the first switch from tea to coffee ?
only moved to Ireland second half of 2000 - all my workmates were drinking tea back then, but can observe newer generations have been baptized into artisan coffee living ...

KWAG2019 · 29-12-2019 12:11PM

irishgrover wrote: »

I've admitted nothing about myself, apart from the from the fact that
A.) I live in rural Ireland
B.) I like most sports
C.) I'm not a cultural or religious bigot
D.) I'm not a narrow minded ultra nationalist self loathing gob****e

The only thing I'm every so slightly disappointed in my self about is continuing to engage in pointless tit for tat with people on the internet who probably deserve my pity instead of ire.
So respectfully, jog on, go for a walk, open your eyes, try something new, don't be so scared of the world, it's not that bad, people are generally nice and welcoming....
Your current approach of making **** up to match you naive and historically retarded political viewpoint is clearly not working....plus it's making you very angry and resentful....
I'm not engaging with you any more, so happy new year and all that :-)

Methinks the lady do protest too much.

29-12-2019 12:14PM

^^^^^^ Nail on the head with the under 35s.

In the aftermath of a stage performance at a particular venue it is becoming more commonplace for the venue website to post a Wonderful glorious "review" of the show whether or not the actual event was a actual clusterfu¢k: "everyone had a smashing time!!!!!". I've noticed some suspiciously early "reviews" in related publications: rated FIVE STARS in "Eat $hit" magazine on the ad on the side of the 15 Dublin Bus.

KWAG2019 · 29-12-2019 12:19PM

Millicently wrote: »

Ah, and here we have the nub of the problem. You left and took your up THE RA crap with you, your friends grew out of that crap and you didn't. Now you're back and they don't want to know you because you are an embarrassing reminder of their past, a relic of the past that they feel mortified about being a part of. You should really get help for that chip on your shoulder.

Classic West Britism. Not based in any reality but a national self loathing which is ingrained as a result of internalized colonial status. Being self confident in yourself and your nation means that you call out people who are actually programmed to denigrate it for the benefit of foreign interests.

whisky_galore · 29-12-2019 12:20PM

KWAG2019 wrote: »

Classic West Britism. Not based in any reality but a national self loathing which is ingrained as a result of internalized colonial status. Being self confident in yourself and your nation means that you call out people who are actually programmed to denigrate it for the benefit of foreign interests.

Classic barstooling.

the beer revolu · 29-12-2019 12:25PM

It started when I got a stove top espresso pot for my 21st in 1990 - along with a little cup.
Then one day, my dad bought those croissants in a cardboard tin that you cook at home.
All went to shlte after that.
Suddenly supermarkets were selling fresh chillies.
There was a concerted effort to pull things back in 1995 with the invention of the breakfast roll but it was too late - olives and anchovies had taken hold and werent going to let go. It was all over when sun-dried tomatoes came in 1996.

Dearbhla and Sinead, that was a very irresponsible gift to buy me. Look what you started!

Millicently · 29-12-2019 12:27PM

KWAG2019 wrote: »

Classic West Britism. Not based in any reality but a national self loathing which is ingrained as a result of internalized colonial status. Being self confident in yourself and your nation means that you call out people who are actually programmed to denigrate it for the benefit of foreign interests.

Seriously your New Years resolution should be to get professional help for that chip. I'm not going to read your posts from now on. Bye.

blade1 · 29-12-2019 12:27PM

When Jambons could be bought at petrol stations.

When did Ireland get so pretentious?

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