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The Healy Raes

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭invicta


    What a TD should do??

    Apart from the 2 boys, what have Mr’s Brassill or Griffin done for the county OR country over the last 4 - 41/2 years??
    Brendan Griffin is a junior minister, and John Brassil has been practically unheard of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Yes, you should relax because you don't have a point. You're just waffling on with the same ol' tune ad infinitum.

    For what it's worth I think corruption among our politicians is a major issue, you don't have to read back too far in this very thread to confirm this if you are so inclined.

    If you're not inclined to read back that's fine by me too. I couldn't care less about someone who wants to argue with strangers he will never know, about a topic he knows even less about. Again, because I'm a nice guy, I'd advise you to not be concerned about things you have no control over and can't do a blessed bit about. If more than 30,000 people want to vote for particular politicians in one area that you know nothing about, let it slide. You're coming across as a bit preoccupied about something that is of no relevance to you.

    I know all the alternatives and would be on first name terms and get on quite well with a few of them. Why would you think I would consider them to be no good?

    I asked you to name someone else in South Kerry you think is worth voting number 1 for and why, I'm not surprised you tried to avoid the questions in your typical amateurish fashion of debating. You obviously know the square root of fcuk all about politics, especially the Healy Rae's and their ethos.

    You complain about wanting a discussion but can't discuss anything, but look carry on with your childish attempts at deflection and imaginary point scoring. If that actually makes you happy, drive on. Just don't think you are fooling anyone because you're not.

    And hey, we all pay tax, some of us more than others. I'm happy to pay my share as I'm a patriot and proud of my country.

    :p:p:p:p:p:p

    Hint a wee nerve

    Tell you what, if I know nothing. Please tell me

    1. What companies have Healy Rae brought to Kerry to help increase jobs?
    2. What new legislation have the Healy Rae brought to government to improve Kerry?
    3. What new legislation have the Healy Rae brought to government to improve Ireland?
    4. If not new, what existing have they asked to improve?

    If I know f**k all, then I am open to understanding what they have done? those would be a couple of typical questions to ask a TD

    Not sure why you are talking about been a patriot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    :p:p:p:p:p:p

    Hint a wee nerve

    Tell you what, if I know nothing. Please tell me

    1. What companies have Healy Rae brought to Kerry to help increase jobs?
    2. What new legislation have the Healy Rae brought to government to improve Kerry?
    3. What new legislation have the Healy Rae brought to government to improve Ireland?
    4. If not new, what existing have they asked to improve?

    If I know f**k all, then I am open to understanding what they have done? those would be a couple of typical questions to ask a TD

    You need to ask yourself why are you so concerned about these things that have nothing to do with you and why would you think I'd answer questions that you think would be typical questions to ask a TD.

    How are Sheffield Wednesday getting on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    You'll pay your share if you're happy or sad about it Rows Grower ;)

    How do you feel about Michael Healy Rae purchasing a property at an Allsop auction, having previously protested at a sale of distressed properties by the British company?

    True, but I choose to be happy about it.

    I have no qualms about what Mike did, it's well known that among other business interests he's a landlord and this article explains a bit about the situation.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/michael-healy-rae-says-allsop-house-purchase-above-board-1.2571840


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,964 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I have no qualms about what Mike did, it's well known that among other business interests he's a landlord and this article explains a bit about the situation.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/michael-healy-rae-says-allsop-house-purchase-above-board-1.2571840

    Oh, I'm aware of the situation and I'm aware it was legit and above board. I was just wondering if it's blind faith or does your moral compass sway the same way as "Mike's" does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Oh, I'm aware of the situation and I'm aware it was legit and above board. I was just wondering if it's blind faith or does your moral compass sway the same way as "Mike's" does.

    I like to think I'm one of the good guys John but I wouldn't compare my moral compass with anyone else's.

    As for blind faith, if someone I admire does something I totally disagree with they just go down in my estimation and I'll let them know first chance I get.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    I do find it hilarious, two posters now...both Healy Rae voters I would expect. One a patriot, maybe the other one is as well...who knows

    Both seem to go round and round the merry go round.....

    Why am I concerned? Well I pay taxes, lots of taxes. I would prefer to see them going towards special needs, homeless, childcare etc

    Not some Gangsters that are robbing people blind and they pat him on the back for doing it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I do find it hilarious, two posters now...both Healy Rae voters I would expect. One a patriot, maybe the other one is as well...who knows

    Both seem to go round and round the merry go round.....

    Why am I concerned? Well I pay taxes, lots of taxes. I would prefer to see them going towards special needs, homeless, childcare etc

    Not some Gangsters that are robbing people blind and they pat him on the back for doing it

    I'm sensing if you lived in South Kerry you'd vote for someone else.

    You do vote, yeah?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    I think its now established:

    a) Everyone has a different, personal view of what a TD should do.

    b) There appears to be no official guidelines other than the document link I posted.

    Demeaning talk of "2 posters now !" when HR is the most popular TD in the country among his electorate.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/top-10-tds-votes-2632948-Feb2016/

    The truth is, if you lived in Kerry, you most likely would vote HR (statistically), once you had personally witnessed the good work and met MHR. Before you jump in and say "I would never vote MHR", I am talking, mathematically, scientifically, statistically.

    You should do the reading and the research to understand how he could be so popular, not ask us to.

    So I dont ask many questions at all, but try this one.

    The logical conclusion to your argument is that you think the majority of Kerry people are corrupt, stupid, etc etc... How else could MHR be so popular and support be so long lived ?

    Is that your view ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    The logical conclusion to your argument is that you think the majority of Kerry people are corrupt, stupid, etc etc... How else could MHR be so popular and support be so long lived ?

    Is that your view ?


    I never said majority of Kerry people are corrupt or stupid etc etc Please quote where I said that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I never said majority of Kerry people are corrupt or stupid etc etc Please quote where I said that?

    Read again, its a question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Why, in your opinion, is MHR so popular in Kerry, is it a flaw in the voters knowledge/understanding/morals what do you think it is ?

    It must be something ?

    EDIT: It must be the voters fault, who else can be to blame ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    Why, in your opinion, is MHR so popular in Kerry, is it a flaw in the voters knowledge/understanding/morals what do you think it is ?

    It must be something ?

    EDIT: It must be the voters fault, who else can be to blame ?

    You continue to ask question but seem incapable of answering so fairly pointless answering for you to ask another mundane question

    Plus, no everyone’s doesn’t have a different opinion. Have a look at the Dail the next time, it’s full of TD.....some not so much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    The logical conclusion to your argument is that you think the majority of Kerry people are corrupt, stupid, etc etc... How else could MHR be so popular and support be so long lived ?

    Is that your view ?

    People re-elected Brian Crowley even though he never showed up to do his job in Europe.

    People re-elected Beverley Flynn even after it was known she was facilitating tax evasion; and then tried to get out of paying legal costs of over €1m of to RTÉ.

    People (still!) vote for Michael Lowry, despite the Moriarty Tribunal! And subsequent court cases, showing he had literally taken money from their pockets (which is exactly what someone engaging in tax fraud does).

    It's only in the last generation or two that people have stopped voting the same way their parents did.

    People vote for politicians for stupid reasons and/or out of misplaced loyalty, all the time. In some places more than others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    People re-elected Brian Crowley even though he never showed up to do his job in Europe.

    People re-elected Beverley Flynn even after it was known she was facilitating tax evasion; and then tried to get out of paying legal costs of over €1m of to RTÉ.

    People (still!) vote for Michael Lowry, despite the Moriarty Tribunal! And subsequent court cases, showing he had literally taken money from their pockets (which is exactly what someone engaging in tax fraud does).

    It's only in the last generation or two that people have stopped voting the same way their parents did.

    People vote for politicians for stupid reasons and/or out of misplaced loyalty, all the time. In some places more than others.

    I thought Brian Crowley couldn’t attend meetings due to ill health AFTER his re-election in 2014.
    But I could be mistaken.
    Great man to sing a rock song at a party by the way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    I thought Brian Crowley couldn’t attend meetings due to ill health AFTER his re-election in 2014.
    But I could be mistaken.
    Great man to sing a rock song at a party by the way.

    Stopped attending in 2013. Never voted from 2014 to 2019. Didn't see a need to resign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Stopped attending in 2013. Never voted from 2014 to 2019. Didn't see a need to resign.
    I bow to your superior knowledge sir with the caveat that your original post re his attendance
    record is somewhat misleading.
    I might add that I wouldn’t consider non attendance due to serious health reasons in the same league as say Dara Murphy’s record in the Dail whilst claiming wages and expenses for another political job as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    You continue to ask question but seem incapable of answering so fairly pointless answering for you to ask another mundane question

    Plus, no everyone’s doesn’t have a different opinion. Have a look at the Dail the next time, it’s full of TD.....some not so much

    I think you might have a future in politics, you never answered a single question and your posts a mumbo jumbo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    I think you might have a future in politics, you never answered a single question and your posts a mumbo jumbo.

    Looks like drunken gobbledegook, much the same as the rest of his inane ramblings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Has anyone here read the MHR book yet ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Looks like drunken gobbledegook, much the same as the rest of his inane ramblings.

    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    I think you might have a future in politics, you never answered a single question and your posts a mumbo jumbo.


    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQC9RANyNI9c49mpARsuYkQQ65hC5nslCUjOA_Bg1QNyelbp7xw8Q&s


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭Bellview


    if the healy rae really wanted to do something constructive and think national then they should consider how the legal profession works, especially as we see a lot of insurance companies pulling away from Ireland due to compo culture... listening to Today FM a few days ago when Charlie Weston was covering car insurance .. he pointed squarely at the legal profession for driving up costs... not the actual claims... putting something constructive on the legal profession would take time and is something that adds value to all the nation....when they do something like this they will have credibility other than their current 'fixing' medical cards issues, renewing olanning and organising work for their machinery therough their 'hard work' at funerals


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Bellview wrote: »
    if the healy rae really wanted to do something constructive and think national then they should consider how the legal profession works, especially as we see a lot of insurance companies pulling away from Ireland due to compo culture... listening to Today FM a few days ago when Charlie Weston was covering car insurance .. he pointed squarely at the legal profession for driving up costs... not the actual claims... putting something constructive on the legal profession would take time and is something that adds value to all the nation....when they do something like this they will have credibility other than their current 'fixing' medical cards issues, renewing olanning and organising work for their machinery therough their 'hard work' at funerals

    Okeydokey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Bellview wrote: »
    if the healy rae really wanted to do something constructive and think national then they should consider how the legal profession works, especially as we see a lot of insurance companies pulling away from Ireland due to compo culture... listening to Today FM a few days ago when Charlie Weston was covering car insurance .. he pointed squarely at the legal profession for driving up costs... not the actual claims... putting something constructive on the legal profession would take time and is something that adds value to all the nation....when they do something like this they will have credibility other than their current 'fixing' medical cards issues, renewing olanning and organising work for their machinery therough their 'hard work' at funerals

    Maybe better done by TD Alan Farrell seeing hes fighting his own whiplash claim after the judge said his injury was too minor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Bellview wrote: »
    if the healy rae really wanted to do something constructive and think national then they should consider how the legal profession works, especially as we see a lot of insurance companies pulling away from Ireland due to compo culture... listening to Today FM a few days ago when Charlie Weston was covering car insurance .. he pointed squarely at the legal profession for driving up costs... not the actual claims... putting something constructive on the legal profession would take time and is something that adds value to all the nation....when they do something like this they will have credibility other than their current 'fixing' medical cards issues, renewing olanning and organising work for their machinery therough their 'hard work' at funerals

    That’s for those “smart alecs” in Dublin to work on

    Roads to be fixed in Kerry


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭Bellview


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    Maybe better done by TD Alan Farrell seeing hes fighting his own whiplash claim after the judge said his injury was too minor.

    Still does not answer why don’t the Healy Rae take on legal profession... although lately theyhave required the professions support to try sort out a disagreement at a chip van


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭Bellview


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    That’s for those “smart alecs” in Dublin to work on

    Roads to be fixed in Kerry

    Plenty smart Alec in kerry as well.. but your reply would fit well as a Healy Rae quote.. someone else problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Bellview wrote: »
    Still does not answer why don’t the Healy Rae take on legal profession... although lately theyhave required the professions support to try sort out a disagreement at a chip van

    I've no doubt that if some of the 30,000 plus that voted them in voiced concerns they would take action on their behalf.

    What is your local TD doing to take on the legal profession or have you asked?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Bellview wrote: »
    Plenty smart Alec in kerry as well.. but your reply would fit well as a Healy Rae quote.. someone else problem

    It seems totally illogical to me that you would pick on MHR because hes doing nothing about insurance ????

    I would suggest that TDs who represent areas where the insurance industry has much larger impact, like Dublin, would be far better suited both geographically and professionally considering the direct impact their constituents as well as the country as a whole.

    Seriously who better to take on the industry ?

    a) A flat cap wearing TD farmer from a rural community far from the heart of the financial centre of the country.

    b) A privately educated TD with experience of the financial industry located in the heart of the financial services industry.

    You think MHR, I am saying thats an illogical choice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭Bellview


    SlowBlowin wrote: »

    It seems totally illogical to me that you would pick on MHR because hes doing nothing about insurance ????

    I would suggest that TDs who represent areas where the insurance industry has much larger impact, like Dublin, would be far better suited both geographically and professionally considering the direct impact their constituents as well as the country as a whole.

    Seriously who better to take on the industry ?

    a) A flat cap wearing TD farmer from a rural community far from the heart of the financial centre of the country.

    b) A privately educated TD with experience of the financial industry located in the heart of the financial services industry.

    You think MHR, I am saying thats an illogical choice.

    There is probably no TD in the dail that can draft legislation from start to finish .. You are playing the gombeen card a bit with those 2 options ..

    That does not take away his responsibility to think where he can help in a constructive way... but he talks a lot about how he takes care of all problems.. he likes to complain a lot and blame others a lot.. even the court case of the son had this mentioned., he is in the dail.. he has access to civil service .. so why don’t he spend some time doing something that might drive a national agenda.. if he spent taxpayers money on getting the right advice around him all he need do is help steer the direction.. if the Healy Rae want to shake the gombeen tag then let them act like politicians... and show the Dublin lads how to be proper TD also

    Picking on Healy Rae to you may seem unfair.. over other TD but you seem to be ok that kerry here 5 Healy Rae councilors with 2 of the councilors sitting in the dail..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    No, I can 100% see the argument from where you sit... And in another world, where I was living outside Kerry I could see myself saying the same thing.

    MHR certainly does get involved on national matters, but they do tend to be ones that effect mainly the rural areas, but obviously benefit on a national level.

    Again I think it boils down to an opinion of what a TD should do. Should they all do the same thing, or focus on their strengths, which in MHRs case is all matters rural (national and Kerry) and all matters Kerry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Bellview wrote: »
    There is probably no TD in the dail that can draft legislation from start to finish .. You are playing the gombeen card a bit with those 2 options ..

    That does not take away his responsibility to think where he can help in a constructive way... but he talks a lot about how he takes care of all problems.. he likes to complain a lot and blame others a lot.. even the court case of the son had this mentioned., he is in the dail.. he has access to civil service .. so why don’t he spend some time doing something that might drive a national agenda.. if he spent taxpayers money on getting the right advice around him all he need do is help steer the direction.. if the Healy Rae want to shake the gombeen tag then let them act like politicians... and show the Dublin lads how to be proper TD also

    Picking on Healy Rae to you may seem unfair.. over other TD but you seem to be ok that kerry here 5 Healy Rae councilors with 2 of the councilors sitting in the dail..

    He showed 'um all how to do it with the highest personal vote in the last general election. Bar none.

    https://youtu.be/63XaJdZF9cU


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭Bellview


    He showed 'um all how to do it with the highest personal vote in the last general election. Bar none.

    https://youtu.be/63XaJdZF9cU

    Ok but that proves he is good at funerals .. in fairness you have to admire the family in that they are drawing up to 500k a year between salary expenses between dail and council..

    While people can follow them on all the great local bluff .. they have added nothing nationally.. when Mhr was being put forward as rural junior minister he basically ran away as he could no longer sit on the ditch... but then he complains about forgotten Ireland ... why didn’t he man up and do a real job And justify his expenses .. he is not the only TD that fits that space but he is one of the vocal ones


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Bellview wrote: »
    Ok but that proves he is good at funerals .. in fairness you have to admire the family in that they are drawing up to 500k a year between salary expenses between dail and council..

    While people can follow them on all the great local bluff .. they have added nothing nationally.. when Mhr was being put forward as rural junior minister he basically ran away as he could no longer sit on the ditch... but then he complains about forgotten Ireland ... why didn’t he man up and do a real job And justify his expenses .. he is not the only TD that fits that space but he is one of the vocal ones

    Shur dead people don't vote at all.

    Why are you avoiding the question about your own TD taking on the legal profession?

    Did you ask your own TD what they are doing to take on the legal profession, you seemed very concerned about that particular subject.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    SlowBlowin wrote: »

    It seems totally illogical to me that you would pick on MHR because hes doing nothing about insurance ????

    I would suggest that TDs who represent areas where the insurance industry has much larger impact, like Dublin.

    You do realise it is cheaper to insure a car in Dublin than outside it?

    Kerry people are probably paying higher rates than a equivalent person in Dublin......


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭Bellview


    Shur dead people don't vote at all.

    Why are you avoiding the question about your own TD taking on the legal profession?

    Did you ask your own TD what they are doing to take on the legal profession, you seemed very concerned about that particular subject.

    on funerals... i don't remember ever going to one where there was only the deceased.. if that was the case the HR's are cute enough not to go either..

    you sum it up well.. we all are ok to vote for self serving individuals... but we all told how the healy raes are great so its logical that they should be our beacon

    have you asked MHR why did he not take the chance to help rural communities and put his hand up when the junior minister..or are you a sucker for their distraction tricks when he pointed at a shiny object and he ran away

    reason i picked insurance its topical and affects everyone.. but you can pick any topic you will have a HR roaring and shouting about how everyone makes a mess but they never seem to have an alternative... sure even when they were protesting about houses being sold in the Shelbourne hotel, they were doing deals to buy distressed properties themselves..

    at the next election we will definitely have one HR returning and probably two.. but other than shouting and roaring (& the odd boxing match) what alternatives/ideas have they provided in the national stage... before you start on local roads.. that is the 3 councillors job, not their daddies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭overshoot


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    You do realise it is cheaper to insure a car in Dublin than outside it?

    Kerry people are probably paying higher rates than a equivalent person in Dublin......

    Having moved last year from Donegal to Dublin... My insurance went up...
    And coming from construction side... Development charges are substantially lower the further west you go for a one off house....well... Rates for any development.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    You do realise it is cheaper to insure a car in Dublin than outside it?

    Kerry people are probably paying higher rates than a equivalent person in Dublin......

    Really shows your morals that statement.

    So the Dublin based business rips off rural customers, and you think that a reason for MHR to sort it out ?

    Come on....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    Really shows your morals that statement.

    So the Dublin based business rips off rural customers, and you think that a reason for MHR to sort it out ?

    Come on....

    You really don’t have a clue do you?

    I’m from the countryside as well by the way :-)

    Best of luck to you....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Bellview wrote: »
    on funerals... i don't remember ever going to one where there was only the deceased.. if that was the case the HR's are cute enough not to go either..

    you sum it up well.. we all are ok to vote for self serving individuals... but we all told how the healy raes are great so its logical that they should be our beacon

    have you asked MHR why did he not take the chance to help rural communities and put his hand up when the junior minister..or are you a sucker for their distraction tricks when he pointed at a shiny object and he ran away

    reason i picked insurance its topical and affects everyone.. but you can pick any topic you will have a HR roaring and shouting about how everyone makes a mess but they never seem to have an alternative... sure even when they were protesting about houses being sold in the Shelbourne hotel, they were doing deals to buy distressed properties themselves..

    at the next election we will definitely have one HR returning and probably two.. but other than shouting and roaring (& the odd boxing match) what alternatives/ideas have they provided in the national stage... before you start on local roads.. that is the 3 councillors job, not their daddies

    Ah Bellview you silly billy, you've totally forgotten to answer the two questions I asked you about your own TD and what they are doing about your major concerns about insurance.

    You're starting to remind me of that Sheffield United fan now.

    As for Mike Rae being made a junior Minister, I rang him when this was being rumored in the media and told him my opinion, shur he only LOL'ed and told me there was no truth in the rumour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Bellview wrote: »
    on funerals... i don't remember ever going to one where there was only the deceased.. if that was the case the HR's are cute enough not to go either..

    you sum it up well.. we all are ok to vote for self serving individuals... but we all told how the healy raes are great so its logical that they should be our beacon

    have you asked MHR why did he not take the chance to help rural communities and put his hand up when the junior minister..or are you a sucker for their distraction tricks when he pointed at a shiny object and he ran away

    reason i picked insurance its topical and affects everyone.. but you can pick any topic you will have a HR roaring and shouting about how everyone makes a mess but they never seem to have an alternative... sure even when they were protesting about houses being sold in the Shelbourne hotel, they were doing deals to buy distressed properties themselves..

    at the next election we will definitely have one HR returning and probably two.. but other than shouting and roaring (& the odd boxing match) what alternatives/ideas have they provided in the national stage... before you start on local roads.. that is the 3 councillors job, not their daddies

    I have found twiddle dumb and twiddle Dee are incapable of answering a single question but then accuse you of not answering

    Best to leave them off with it, they will be telling local about the “smart alecs” in Dublin later....

    Except I don’t live in Dublin....oops.....as they look out at nice roads but the rest of the place crumbling around them and they slap a Healy Rae on the back....

    Ahh you got to love it......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I have found twiddle dumb and twiddle Dee are incapable of answering a single question but then accuse you of not answering

    Best to leave them off with it, they will be telling local about the “smart alecs” in Dublin later....

    Except I don’t live in Dublin....oops.....as they look out at nice roads but the rest of the place crumbling around them and they slap a Healy Rae on the back....

    Ahh you got to love it......

    We sure do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    We sure do.


    And at the end of the day that's it.



    I live in countryside. Work in it as well but also have offices in Dublin.


    I am more than aware of the death of the counties outside the major cities. Fot the children of Kerry most of them are moving away. Either to Dublin/Cork or elsewhere. Kerry is slowing dying.....even the population is: https://www.radiokerry.ie/census-reveals-kerry-oldest-average-aged-population-state/


    Google and you will find plenty more.



    Will US tourist continue? most of the new generations dont give a s**t they are 3,4th or 5th generation Irish.



    US companies are opening offices weekly in Ireland, when was the last time one was to open in Kerry? to bring jobs to the area?


    You can blame the "smart alecs" in Dublin all you want, for how many years the Healy Rae have been voted in and instead of promoting Kerry they have just robbed people blind. What companies have they brought into Kerry to keep jobs in the area? its not just the job in the company but local suppliers etc. Any companies?



    I have yet to get one answer to why people vote them, apart from 30k other gobs**ts voted them in so they must be good.



    Maybe you are happy as you watch everyone slowly leave Kerry, young people with no employment if they stay around. Of course if they are happy to work in a hotel then they are sorted.



    It reminds me of FAI, people asked questions and got shot down. Sure are they great. Healy Rae going on about how great Delaney was. Then the whole things fall aparts and everyone asking how it happened.


    Same can be said of Healy Rae, 10 years time and nobody left in Kerry bar a few hotel staff, will people then ask what the f**k they have been doing? apart from robbing money and trying to con the tax man


    I would ask the question if you are aware of all this, do you have an answer to any of this but I will get some dumbass response so pointless.....I have met loads of Kerry people in work,moved to get a job....lets just say their opinion of the Healy Rae is a little different


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    And at the end of the day that's it.



    I live in countryside. Work in it as well but also have offices in Dublin.


    I am more than aware of the death of the counties outside the major cities. Fot the children of Kerry most of them are moving away. Either to Dublin/Cork or elsewhere. Kerry is slowing dying.....even the population is: https://www.radiokerry.ie/census-reveals-kerry-oldest-average-aged-population-state/


    Google and you will find plenty more.



    Will US tourist continue? most of the new generations dont give a s**t they are 3,4th or 5th generation Irish.



    US companies are opening offices weekly in Ireland, when was the last time one was to open in Kerry? to bring jobs to the area?


    You can blame the "smart alecs" in Dublin all you want, for how many years the Healy Rae have been voted in and instead of promoting Kerry they have just robbed people blind. What companies have they brought into Kerry to keep jobs in the area? its not just the job in the company but local suppliers etc. Any companies?



    I have yet to get one answer to why people vote them, apart from 30k other gobs**ts voted them in so they must be good.



    Maybe you are happy as you watch everyone slowly leave Kerry, young people with no employment if they stay around. Of course if they are happy to work in a hotel then they are sorted.



    It reminds me of FAI, people asked questions and got shot down. Sure are they great. Healy Rae going on about how great Delaney was. Then the whole things fall aparts and everyone asking how it happened.


    Same can be said of Healy Rae, 10 years time and nobody left in Kerry bar a few hotel staff, will people then ask what the f**k they have been doing? apart from robbing money and trying to con the tax man


    I would ask the question if you are aware of all this, do you have an answer to any of this but I will get some dumbass response so pointless.....I have met loads of Kerry people in work,moved to get a job....lets just say their opinion of the Healy Rae is a little different

    Ehh, that link you posted there to prove your point that Kerry is slowly dying actually states quite clearly that since 2011 the population of Kerry has increased by 1.5% or 2,205 people.

    You silly billy, LOL.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭Bellview


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I have found twiddle dumb and twiddle Dee are incapable of answering a single question but then accuse you of not answering

    Best to leave them off with it, they will be telling local about the “smart alecs” in Dublin later....

    Except I don’t live in Dublin....oops.....as they look out at nice roads but the rest of the place crumbling around them and they slap a Healy Rae on the back....

    Ahh you got to love it......

    agreed... must admire the HR machine though as they effectively bully others out of the way and get away with it... we should put the kenmare chipper down as a blip .. :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭Bellview


    Ah Bellview you silly billy, you've totally forgotten to answer the two questions I asked you about your own TD and what they are doing about your major concerns about insurance.

    You're starting to remind me of that Sheffield United fan now.

    As for Mike Rae being made a junior Minister, I rang him when this was being rumored in the media and told him my opinion, shur he only LOL'ed and told me there was no truth in the rumour.

    was he telling you the truth or were you again tricked by the shiny toy routine..


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,011 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Bellview wrote: »
    was he telling you the truth or were you again tricked by the shiny toy routine..

    That depends, which answer would trigger us latte-sipping, avocado-munching townies more?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    That depends, which answer would trigger us latte-sipping, avocado-munching townies more?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭Bellview



    In fairness says a lot about the circus... as I have always said the HR have a great pr machine behind them.. complain lots and deliver little.. and when asked a serious question their response is see how they can mock it so to avoid having to do anything to fix the issue while blaming others.. evidence given by Jackie junior validates this point ...their aim is simple try to remain the funny man in the room .. I know you can’t agree with me as you probably would put huge efforts to canvass for a vote for the Rae ..
    while I always respect folks that put their name on a ballot paper .. let’s always ask as the guys on the ballot paper there to serve the voters or are they working an angle to serve themselves..


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭Bellview


    That depends, which answer would trigger us latte-sipping, avocado-munching townies more?

    Are townies more easily tricked... I always thought the Hr defended the fella that ate the dinner in middle of the day... I must polish up my Dunlop wellies next time I meet them.. although Jackie junior may prefer boxing gloves.. although I can’t go for a pint in Nancy myles anymore especially after attempts to convert it into multiple single bed flats until the locals stood together and objected


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