Skyscrapers ASAP.

Ready4Boarding wrote: »

A lot of people over-estimate the efficiency of high-rise. Because of the need for space around towers (e.g. Ballymun), five or six storey terracing like is widespread in Berlin can be just as efficient and arguably much better on a social level.

On the other hand building skyscrapers while complying with strict daylight design rules creates open spaces in front of the skyscrapers where plazas, restaurant terraces, art installations etc. can be placed and these can give an area a cosmopolitan feel.

I do however agree with your point that mid-rise apartment blocks can provide a similar density to high-rise buildings in countries where daylight design rules are strict.

Vita nova wrote: »

On the other hand building skyscrapers while complying with strict daylight design rules creates open spaces in front of the skyscrapers where plazas, restaurant terraces, art installations etc. can be placed and these can give an area a cosmopolitan feel.

I do however agree with your point that mid-rise apartment blocks can provide a similar density to high-rise buildings in countries where daylight design rules are strict.

And..? Plenty of plazas, terraces,restaurants and art in Paris, Rome, Copenhagen and dozens of other entirely mid rise cities throughout europe

suicide_circus wrote: »

well we once had a highrise development in Ballymun which didnt go particularly well so now we can never ever try again

Clearly no difference between something like this


And this

Sam Quentin wrote: »

When oh when are we gonna start building Skyscrapers and high rise apartments in Dublin? The City is busting at the seams,.. I think it's a no-brainer.

A big part of the problem is that west Brit types can`t stand the thought of demolishing memories of the colonialism. Consequently, we drive for hours each morning and destroy the polar ice caps instead.

It is an exaggeration that we ripped up some amazing transport net work

It was an (admittedly extensive) system of slow moving trolleys built to support a city with a population of 300k or so.Dublin is what 3 or 4 times larger in size and population now. It would have to have been completely ripped up and modernised regardless in order to move people in and out of the city centre at a speed that we expect today. If it had survived it would just be a tourist attraction like the trolleys in Lisbon and San fransisco completely separate from the actual functioning and effective modern transport network. Most of the old lines left behind by them actually allowed for much quicker and cheaper development of the luas lines and dart. So if the trolleys had survived theyd probably be protected now and we'd have a much worse transport system

I don't know why we don't have entire neighbourhoods of 10 storey or so flats with green spaces in between and shops and restaurants etc on the ground floor. It works well in Germany and other well run countries.
People say Irish want semi-ds and gardens, but I've no doubt decent flats would be snapped up too, beggars can't be choosers in the current environment.

I don't think we need them

Ready4Boarding wrote: »

Maybe it's my ideological bias, but I instinctively distrust radical plans like that. Too many things are liable to go wrong. We look back at the Ballymun flats with complete clarity that it was doomed from the start; if only they had had our insight at the time of building. But our insight derives from seeing the experience of those flats. At the time, they probably had the same confidence in those towers as you have in yours. Who's to say there isn't some "obvious" lesson to be learnt about the building of ten-storey tower complexes that only hindsight will reveal?

I acknowledge that that principal could be used to stymie all development, but I think its force increases exponentially with the size and complexity of a proposal.

Dont put any HAP people in them and theyll be fine.

pablo128 wrote: »

I used to work as a mechanic. Obviously I have a heap of tools of all description, welding plants, trolley jack, pressure washer etc. I do all my own work on our cars. I'd have no issue changing a clutch, for example here at home. As well as that, I have a large amount of camping gear too.

Where would I put all my stuff in a high rise apartment, and where could I work on my car?

Have a lock up like Del Boy. He kept his banger and assorted crap in there as he lived high up in Nelson Mandela house.