Skyscrapers ASAP.

Sam Quentin · 18-12-2019 04:29PM #1

When oh when are we gonna start building Skyscrapers and high rise apartments in Dublin? The City is busting at the seams,.. I think it's a no-brainer.

Winning_Stroke · 18-12-2019 04:33PM

They'll ruin the view of the chimneys though

The Tetrarch · 18-12-2019 04:36PM

Strangely, skyscraper is not a modern word.
There was a horse Skyscraper born in 1786.

Practically, the land in Dublin city is not suited to skyscrapers, although from Blackrock southwards for about seventy miles it is all granite and would suit. How about a few skyscrapers in Wicklow?

Wibbs · 18-12-2019 04:47PM

The Tetrarch wrote: »

Strangely, skyscraper is not a modern word.
There was a horse Skyscraper born in 1786.

IIRC it's a maritime term for the very top sail(s) on a sailing ship?

Markcheese · 18-12-2019 04:59PM

I've no major urge to see sky scrapers ,they're seriously expensive to build ,
But yeah ,buildings need to go up ... Nothing wrong with well planned ,well built towers 10 /15 storeys high ,
Even 3 or 4 storey blocks of apartments could up population density .. but doing a Celtic tiger thing of sticking them down the back of a housing estate ,way out in the burbs ,miles from anywhere ,with car transport only is daft...

facehugger99 · 18-12-2019 05:11PM

Die Hard, The Towering Inferno, Skyscraper.

Just a small list of the types of scenarios Dublin has managed to avoid with it's sensible low-level planning strategy.

SEPT 23 1989 · 18-12-2019 05:18PM

The Irish don't do well living up in the sky without a garden

the poor unfortunates in Ballymun had to turn to heroin to cope

wakka12 · 18-12-2019 05:23PM

Well at least try to keep up with current affairs before giving out about it. 23 story capital dock has just opened, 17 story Exo nearly finished , three fifteen story towers at bolands quay nearing completion, two 22 story towers have recently been granted planning permission on Tara Street, with several more towers or similar of greater height proposed by Connolly station , the North Docks(45 stories) and a potential one by Hueston station now too. Happy now?

Speaking of which, that development in the North Docks featuring a 45 story element has now applied for planning in an SHD scheme with An Bord Pleanala. 999 residential units
http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/306158.htm

Reviews and Books Galore · 18-12-2019 05:25PM

Hmmmm, I wonder how some of the disreputable areas of Dublin would behave if cooped in a skyscraper? :P

fonecrusher1 · 18-12-2019 05:25PM

Sam Quentin wrote: »

When oh when are we gonna start building Skyscrapers and high rise apartments in Dublin? The City is busting at the seams,.. I think it's a no-brainer.

I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.

FFVII · 18-12-2019 05:42PM

Less people ftw

Fupping sick of looking at people everywhere

MrAbyss · 18-12-2019 05:42PM

I was living in Crumlin a while back when a developer proposed a - wait for it - a single 6 storey apartment block. The local NIMBYs were holding up signs with NO BALLYMUN HERE and THIS IS CRUMLIN NOT MANHATTAN.

These lunatics get the ear of the politicians. That's why.

MrAbyss · 18-12-2019 05:43PM

Places such as Phisborough should be filled with 40 floor apartment towers. Amazing that it isn't.

MrAbyss · 18-12-2019 05:44PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Speaking of which, that development in the North Docks featuring a 45 story element has now applied for planning in an SHD scheme with An Bord Pleanala. 999 residential units
http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/306158.htm

Any other details on this?

Bobblehats · 18-12-2019 05:47PM

But if you scrape the sky you risk tearing it.... heaping more misery on us be realistic they are only for superheroes to stand on the corners of. Looking all epic

Outkast_IRE · 18-12-2019 05:56PM

A good few tall buildings going through the planning process successfully in Cork city at the moment, hopefully they end up being constructed.

beejee · 18-12-2019 06:02PM

Pointless.

Like going out to buy yet another bucket to fill when the problem is the water tap keeps flowing.

Build anything and it fills immediately, whether houses, apartments, skyscrapers, underwater domes, volcano hideouts.

Turn off the tap, THEN see where you can put all the water.

Backwards-arse thinking, and then people scratching their heads, "durp! Why is nothing changing despite our crap ideas?! Flerp!"

In all honesty, if there was zero movement of people in AND out of the country it would probably take decades to build sufficient good quality housing that doesn't cost 50%+ of your life earnings. Playing bloody games as usual

lawred2 · 18-12-2019 06:05PM

beejee wrote: »

Pointless.

Like going out to buy yet another bucket to fill when the problem is the water tap keeps flowing.

Build anything and it fills immediately, whether houses, apartments, skyscrapers, underwater domes, volcano hideouts.

Turn off the tap, THEN see where you can put all the water.

Backwards-arse thinking, and then people scratching their heads, "durp! Why is nothing changing despite our crap ideas?! Flerp!"

In all honesty, if there was zero movement of people in AND out of the country it would probably take decades to build sufficient good quality housing that doesn't cost 50%+ of your life earnings. Playing bloody games as usual

immigrant thing right?

beejee · 18-12-2019 06:07PM

lawred2 wrote: »

immigrant thing right?

Numbers thing.

Beau Bennett · 18-12-2019 06:08PM

Because we would build Grenfell Towers and not Shards or Rockefellers

John Doe1 · 18-12-2019 06:13PM

Dublin definitely needs to build up to alleviate the rental crisis.

Perhaps a designated area in the grand canal dock area rather than in the middle of the city centre.

I come from a working class background but it is ridiculous that the ones who are contributing least to the tax base are the ones who stall all the plans to build upwards.

pablo128 · 18-12-2019 06:16PM

Have we enough fire engines in the city which are equipped to deal with fires in high rise buildings?

lawred2 · 18-12-2019 06:21PM

pablo128 wrote: »

Have we enough fire engines in the city which are equipped to deal with fires in high rise buildings?

fire engines don't really deal with high rise fires - the building's are supposed to be constructed with fire proofing/dampening and pipework to allow firefighters to fight the fires internally

andekwarhola · 18-12-2019 06:22PM

It's Ireland.

They will eventually get the green light and end up being too small for families unless they cost a fortune

And give developers the chance to build shoddy apartments on a grander scale.

And the larger scale of services required will just ensure that the management companies will eventually become insolvent as many Irish people simply don't like paying for stuff.

Well, that's off my chest anyway.

18-12-2019 06:23PM

lawred2 wrote: »

immigrant thing right?

Nope, babies :pac:

suicide_circus · 18-12-2019 06:23PM

well we once had a highrise development in Ballymun which didnt go particularly well so now we can never ever try again

wakka12 · 18-12-2019 06:35PM

John Doe1 wrote: »

Dublin definitely needs to build up to alleviate the rental crisis.

Perhaps a designated area in the grand canal dock area rather than in the middle of the city centre.

I come from a working class background but it is ridiculous that the ones who are contributing least to the tax base are the ones who stall all the plans to build upwards.

Do youve any evident to support that? Nimbyism is just as strong in wealthy communities, I find

Ready4Boarding · 18-12-2019 06:40PM

A lot of people over-estimate the efficiency of high-rise. Because of the need for space around towers (e.g. Ballymun), five or six storey terracing like is widespread in Berlin can be just as efficient and arguably much better on a social level.

The_Brood · 18-12-2019 07:07PM

Dublin is easily the most overpopulated city with the least amount of public transportation and non-alcohol related commodities, or commodities open past the time people leave work, I have ever seen. I truly cannot fathom how the government does not see this as a problem.

18-12-2019 07:11PM

lawred2 wrote: »

fire engines don't really deal with high rise fires - the building's are supposed to be constructed with fire proofing/dampening and pipework to allow firefighters to fight the fires internally

Keywords highlighted. They first thing needed would be a beefed up “building control” regime.

Larbre34 · 18-12-2019 07:13PM

The_Brood wrote: »

Dublin is easily the most overpopulated city with the least amount of public transportation and non-alcohol related commodities, or commodities open past the time people leave work, I have ever seen. I truly cannot fathom how the government does not see this as a problem.

Lol have you ever been elsewhere, cos I have and it simply isn't.

Skyscrapers ASAP.

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