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Xbox General discussion **No Order Chat Here**

  • 09-10-2019 2:25pm
    #1
    Lord Spence
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭Lord Spence


    Not sure if we have one yet but thought we could start the thread which will cover everything on Project Scarlet or whatever it is going to be called. That other lot have one on the PS5.

    How is everyone feeling about the new xbox? What would you like see happen with it? for instance would you like VR added etc.

    I for one will be a day one buyer regardless id say but thats mainly due to most of my friends being on xbox.

    Here is apparently what we know so far:

    Processor
    Custom AMD Zen 2
    RAM
    GDDR6
    Storage
    Custom SSD (capacity TBD)
    Ray Tracing
    Yes
    Maximum resolution
    8K
    Maximum framerate
    120 frames per second
    Release Date
    Holiday 2020


    MOD EDIT:

    MOD NOTE: While this thread previously had order chat in it, it will now be solely for chatting about the consoles. Apologies for not doing this sooner, I think that some of the excitement of actually having the consoles has been lost a bit. Hopefully this sorts that out for now.

    If you wish to chat about supply or orders, the dedicated thread for that is here.

    CIAB
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  • #2
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Good idea. I'd assume that Microsoft will give the reveal to Digital Foundry again, it seemed to work out very well last time.

    There's a big asterisk over a lot of the features that both PS5 and Scarlett, most specifically the Ray Tracing. Can't imagine that it'll be on the level of an RTX, but I'd assume that it'll satisfy most people, in the same way that Scorpio was a 4K box for the masses.

    One thing that I'd love is for the Backward Compatible to not just let you play your Xbox One games, but to improve them, like what was done with the Xbox 360 catalogue on Xbox One, i.e. smoother framerates, higher res, etc.


  • #3
    Lord Spence
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭Lord Spence


    CatInABox wrote: »
    One thing that I'd love is for the Backward Compatible to not just let you play your Xbox One games, but to improve them, like what was done with the Xbox 360 catalogue on Xbox One, i.e. smoother framerates, higher res, etc.


    Microsoft seem to have a good history now with backward compatibility and making games look better, even upgrading some 360 games to utilise the one x's power.

    They need to stay strong on services like gamepass, I really think what they are doing there is driving others to compete and have people a little worried, hence the reaction from playstation to cut the price of the playstation now service.


  • #4
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,352 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Lord Spence wrote: »
    Not sure if we have one yet but thought we could start the thread which will cover everything on Project Scarlet or whatever it is going to be called. That other lot have one on the PS5.

    How is everyone feeling about the new xbox? What would you like see happen with it? for instance would you like VR added etc.

    I for one will be a day one buyer regardless id say but thats mainly due to most of my friends being on xbox.

    Here is apparently what we know so far:

    Processor
    Custom AMD Zen 2
    RAM
    GDDR6
    Storage
    Custom SSD (capacity TBD)
    Ray Tracing
    Yes
    Maximum resolution
    8K
    Maximum framerate
    120 frames per second
    Release Date
    Holiday 2020


    My thoughts on the implementation of the following

    Ray Tracing - extremely limited utilisation.
    Max Res - most likely the dashboard.
    Max FPS - probably achievable in "simpler" style games.

    What I think they should focus on -

    60 FPS minimum first and foremost at 1080p. Once that's achievable stay at 60 FPS and bump resolution to 1440p.

    Not really a point in having 8k resolution at low quality graphic setting.


  • #5
    ZiabR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Personally, I am excited for the next gen. It is the first true leap in hardware and we are finally moving away from the Jaguar CPU, which has been the limiting factor for to long. As has already been discussed. The next gen consoles wont have a massive leap in teraflops but we need to move away from using this unit as a measurement, as the hardware is completely different.

    That being said, I am COMPLETELY against 8K and using it as a marketing ploy. Just give me HD and 4K at 60fps and I will be happier than 8K at 20-30fps. We don't need 8K.

    I am looking forward to seeing what developers will find possible with this new console.

    For the record, I think Microsoft need to hit the ground running this time around. They cannot afford a repeat of the Xbox One launch.


  • #6
    Flashdan
    Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭Flashdan


    Will you need an Xbox Scarlett / PS5 with Stadia, Xcloud etc?

    I mean they both come out before Christmas this year so there is plenty of time to test them to see if they work well enough in a cloud based system.

    If these platforms are a success next year and Stadia offer 4k 60 FPS that only requires 35Mbps then what is the point in getting next gen as 4k 60fps is the benchmark they are going for in reality.


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  • #7
    heebusjeebus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭heebusjeebus


    The biggest mystery will be the name of the new console.
    They've never been consistent with their numbering so now might be the best time to take the Nintendo approach and give it a distinct name rather than a number.


  • #8
    Lord Spence
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭Lord Spence


    heebusjeebus wrote: »
    The biggest mystery will be the name of the new console.
    They've never been consistent with their numbering so now might be the best time to take the Nintendo approach and give it a distinct name rather than a number.

    Well looking at there current naming convention as in Xbox One, One S and One X, I wonder will they simply just go for Xbox Two or Xbox 2.

    They need to make it very clear to the non informed consumer that this is the next gen model compared to the previous micro upgrades


  • #9
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Lord Spence wrote: »
    Well looking at there current naming convention as in Xbox One, One S and One X, I wonder will they simply just go for Xbox Two or Xbox 2.

    They need to make it very clear to the non informed consumer that this is the next gen model compared to the previous micro upgrades

    I got a chuckle out of this.

    https://twitter.com/TylerGlaiel/status/1181654707158183936


  • #10
    Lord Spence
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭Lord Spence


    CatInABox wrote: »
    I got a chuckle out of this.

    https://twitter.com/TylerGlaiel/status/1181654707158183936

    That seems to have gone right over my head :o


  • #11
    DaveNoCheese
    Registered Users Posts: 8,763 ✭✭✭DaveNoCheese


    Personally, I want a day one console & controller branded with 'Scarlett', similar to the launch of Scorpio. Everything else is secondary.


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  • #12
    McDermotX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,636 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    The New Xbox

    https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/12/21016575/microsoft-xbox-series-x-next-xbox-console

    xboxseriesx.jpg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tUqIHwHDEc


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJWI4bkD9ZM


  • #13
    HairySalmon
    Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭HairySalmon


    McDermotX wrote: »
    The New Xbox

    https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/12/21016575/microsoft-xbox-series-x-next-xbox-console

    xboxseriesx.jpg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tUqIHwHDEc

    Such a terrible name given they already have the Xbox One X


  • #14
    McDermotX
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,636 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Probably already thinking along the lines of the different SKUs at each range

    Xbox Series X.....Series X Pro etc

    Who knows


  • #15
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    The name is a train wreck. This thing is going to sell even worse then the xbox one.


  • #16
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    McDermotX wrote: »
    The New Xbox

    https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/12/21016575/microsoft-xbox-series-x-next-xbox-console

    I like it. Brave of them to go with a non standard shape for it, what with the backlash against the look and styling of the original Xbox One.

    Looks very much like a custom PC tower, I'd say the cooling requirements of this generation are forcing some creative thinking.


  • #17
    heebusjeebus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭heebusjeebus


    I don't mind the name.
    I think numbers and model names are becoming superfluous in general conversations anyway. Let's play the "XBox" or "Playstation" tends to be used more so than drilling down to the exact console you are gonna be playing.


  • #18
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,352 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    RoyalCelt wrote: »
    The name is a train wreck. This thing is going to sell even worse then the xbox one.

    Not really. The current X will be the base console then you'll have the XS as a mid tier and an XPro or something like that in two years.

    Edit: it's a series of consoles not a single SKU.


  • #19
    Varik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,552 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    RoyalCelt wrote: »
    The name is a train wreck. This thing is going to sell even worse then the xbox one.

    Saw the video first without any context on xbox youtube channel.

    And until I saw the release date as being holiday 2020 I though it might have been a new Xbox one version. I think there's a lot of parent who'll make the same WiiU mistake.


  • #20
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Varik wrote: »
    Saw the video first without any context on xbox youtube channel.

    And until I saw the release date as being holiday 2020 I though it might have been a new Xbox one version. I think there's a lot of parent who'll make the same WiiU mistake.

    It technically is a new Xbox one version.


  • #21
    Lord Spence
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭Lord Spence


    I really dont know what to make of it, can it be turned on its side to accommodate a tv cabinet for instance? I love the name personally but total nightmare for a parent and even harder for the Microsoft marketing team i would imagine.


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  • #22
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Lord Spence wrote: »
    I really dont know what to make of it, can it be turned on its side to accommodate a tv cabinet for instance? I love the name personally but total nightmare for a parent and even harder for the Microsoft marketing team i would imagine.

    It can be positioned horizontally.

    I think that they kept the "X" in the name as the One X has the reputation as the most powerful console. Assuming that the same is true in this generation, which Microsoft stated as their goal, then it makes sense to bring the "X" over, so that people have that association. Not sure I 100% agree, but as has been pointed out, the name won't really matter, most don't call consoles by there full name anyway, this just be another Xbox in a few years.


  • #23
    Oafley Jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    CatInABox wrote: »
    It can be positioned horizontally.

    I think that they kept the "X" in the name as the One X has the reputation as the most powerful console. Assuming that the same is true in this generation, which Microsoft stated as their goal, then it makes sense to bring the "X" over, so that people have that association. Not sure I 100% agree, but as has been pointed out, the name won't really matter, most don't call consoles by there full name anyway, this just be another Xbox in a few years.

    Microsoft just love chucking the name "X" across their product portfolio at the moment without any real rhyme or reason. If it denoted the most powerful product in each category, then fair enough, but it doesn't. Bizarre lack of clarity overall and I do think it'll cause confusion.


  • #24
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Oafley Jones wrote: »
    Microsoft just love chucking the name "X" across their product portfolio at the moment without any real rhyme or reason. If it denoted the most powerful product in each category, then fair enough, but it doesn't. Bizarre lack of clarity overall and I do think it'll cause confusion.

    In fairness, I don't think that you can compare Microsofts entire product line with Xbox. Nobody is going to think that there's any relation between Surface Pro X and Xbox One X or Xbox Series X, they exist in very different spaces.


  • #25
    skerry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭skerry


    Name doesn't bother me, if it puts out the kind of power they are talking about I get to keep my library, they continue the awesome Game Pass thing and I can use the same controllers then just take my money Bill. They could call it the Xbox Scutter for all I care, looks like a beast of a thing.


  • #26
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    It's certainly different, it's a statement. Like back in the old days when each console looked unique. Not sure how practical it will be in most living rooms. Even turned on it's side it's a funny shape.

    There are rumours of two systems launching - a cheap one and a high-end one. I assume only the expensive one will look like this.

    Their naming scheme is a cluster****. I understand why they didn't want to go with numbers back in the day (they didn't want to be 'one less' than Playstation) but they should have just gone with it and things would be much simpler for them now.


  • #27
    fifth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭fifth


    Love the design, specs looking good, backwards compatibility, kept that awesome controller design for the most part.

    Getting out ahead is a good move. They need to nail the exclusives, keep game pass stocked and hopefully will have the edge on power too. XCloud is gonna be interesting too.

    I'm in. Can't wait to see Halo Infinite, GTA 6, Elder scrolls 6 running on that in 4K60!


  • #28
    DelBoy Trotter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭DelBoy Trotter


    I don't see anything wrong with the name, and like a few have mentioned, I don't think it's going to make much difference. I think the design looks fantastic!


  • #29
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I'd say there's a 120mm axial fan in there and that dictated the chassis shape. Can't think why else they would give it a square cross-section. An optical disc is 120mm so based on the slot i'd say it's not much more than 130-140mm square.


  • #30
    Lord Spence
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭Lord Spence


    Looks like the controller with it is some form of elite controller as it has the switch in the middle that toggles your custom settings.


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  • #31
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Lord Spence wrote: »
    Looks like the controller with it is some form of elite controller as it has the switch in the middle that toggles your custom settings.

    The new button is the "Share" button, so you can share clips and screenshots, Playstation style. There are elements taken from the Elite though, like the d-pad.


  • #32
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I'd say there's a 120mm axial fan in there and that dictated the chassis shape. Can't think why else they would give it a square cross-section. An optical disc is 120mm so based on the slot i'd say it's not much more than 130-140mm square.
    It's basically a pc. What do most PC's look like? Sure they could have gone with some crazy custom chassis but that would come with the usual crazy price tag.

    I like it. Vertical or horizontal is all that is needed. Enough to fit in a media unit, but mostly this is a pc and xcloud streaming server. I honestly wouldn't expect the design to be anything more exciting than what we are getting.


  • #33
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,961 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    I really like the design of the new xbox series X. I did not buy into the xbox one at all and have a PS4/Switch for past few years.

    I can see myself buying this as I much prefer the design of this compared to the ps5. The real sales pitch for me is the Xbox Games Pass and the lovely minimal design of the new console. Hopefully exclusives will be much stronger this time around too.


  • #34
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Gonzo wrote: »
    I really like the design of the new xbox series X. I did not buy into the xbox one at all and have a PS4/Switch for past few years.

    I can see myself buying this as I much prefer the design of this compared to the ps5. The real sales pitch for me is the Xbox Games Pass and the lovely minimal design of the new console. Hopefully exclusives will be much stronger this time around too.

    Just FYI, we don't know the final design of the PS5, and I'd eat my hat if it's anything like the dev kits that we've seen.

    With the heat generated by this new generation, I wouldn't be too surprised to see a PS5 design similar to this new Xbox, to be honest. There's only so many ways to balance the heat/noise levels.

    Agree with everything else though, it came late, but Game Pass has been my innovation of this generation, and I'll put my hand up as one of those that thought it'd be ****e. I've been proven wrong on so many levels by it.


  • #35
    ricimaki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭ricimaki


    It really looks like a Silverstone FT03 mini PC case:

    SilverStone-Fortress-FT03-MINI-6.jpg

    I like it!


  • #36
    Blazer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,452 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Not too pushed about it really. I’ve just got another Xbox one x so I reckon with the PS5 exclusives I’ll go for that instead.
    Shame as I love Xbox and have gotten every version since the original.


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  • #37
    HairySalmon
    Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭HairySalmon


    CatInABox wrote: »
    Just FYI, we don't know the final design of the PS5, and I'd eat my hat if it's anything like the dev kits that we've seen.

    With the heat generated by this new generation, I wouldn't be too surprised to see a PS5 design similar to this new Xbox, to be honest. There's only so many ways to balance the heat/noise levels.

    Agree with everything else though, it came late, but Game Pass has been my innovation of this generation, and I'll put my hand up as one of those that thought it'd be ****e. I've been proven wrong on so many levels by it.

    Dev kits never look like the retail console, but what I find very interesting is the fact they patented their dev kit design. I’ve never seen that done before, so as you said they’ll need more ventilation because of the increased power, which makes me wonder if some design elements of the dev kit will be worked into the retail box. Obviously if there is a V designed in it’ll be much more subtle and aesthetically pleasing.


  • #38
    marcbrophy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,505 ✭✭✭marcbrophy


    Blazer wrote: »
    Not too pushed about it really. I’ve just got another Xbox one x so I reckon with the PS5 exclusives I’ll go for that instead.
    Shame as I love Xbox and have gotten every version since the original.

    What are they? :)


  • #39
    Stone Deaf 4evr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr


    HairySalmon wrote: »
    Dev kits never look like the retail console, but what I find very interesting is the fact they patented their dev kit design. I’ve never seen that done before, so as you said they’ll need more ventilation because of the increased power, which makes me wonder if some design elements of the dev kit will be worked into the retail box. Obviously if there is a V designed in it’ll be much more subtle and aesthetically pleasing.

    I cant remember where I read it, but I'm sure I've seen that the PS5 devkit is the shape it is, to allow them to be stacked by developers using multiples at once. Id be majorly surprised if the finished article looks anything like that.


  • #40
    HairySalmon
    Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭HairySalmon


    Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »
    I cant remember where I read it, but I'm sure I've seen that the PS5 devkit is the shape it is, to allow them to be stacked by developers using multiples at once. Id be majorly surprised if the finished article looks anything like that.

    Absolutely, but regarding the V shape for vents it could be modelled into the finished product -albeit much more subtle and toned down I image.

    MS have been doing a great job designing consoles since the One S, really liking their minimalistic designs. I think the Series X is the least attractive, but it’s grown on me a lot.


  • #41
    HairySalmon
    Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭HairySalmon


    marcbrophy wrote: »
    What are they? :)

    In fairness Sony is a powerhouse for exclusives and that doesn’t look like it’s about the change.

    MS are making large steps to match the offering with their purchase of so many studios and it couldn’t come sooner given the lack of them this gen.


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  • #42
    marcbrophy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,505 ✭✭✭marcbrophy


    HairySalmon wrote: »
    In fairness Sony is a powerhouse for exclusives and that doesn’t look like it’s about the change.

    MS are making large steps to match the offering with their purchase of so many studios and it couldn’t come sooner given the lack of them this gen.

    I'm just wondering if there's any specifics?
    I mean, I heard about that one last week at the game awards, but are there any more definite ones?
    We can certainly say TLOU2 and any follow ups to GOW and Spider-Man that may show up.
    We can presume HZD2 and anything uncharted wise also.

    Everyone always raves about Sony's exclusives, but for me I'd say that I played more Xbox exclusives than Sony this generation.
    I think I might try and work it out :D


  • #43
    HairySalmon
    Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭HairySalmon


    marcbrophy wrote: »
    I'm just wondering if there's any specifics?
    I mean, I heard about that one last week at the game awards, but are there any more definite ones?
    We can certainly say TLOU2 and any follow ups to GOW and Spider-Man that may show up.
    We can presume HZD2 and anything uncharted wise also.

    Everyone always raves about Sony's exclusives, but for me I'd say that I played more Xbox exclusives than Sony this generation.
    I think I might try and work it out :D

    Nothing has been announced yet bar Godfall (think that’s the name)

    I’ve had the polar opposite experience myself, but different strokes I suppose.


  • #44
    marcbrophy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,505 ✭✭✭marcbrophy


    HairySalmon wrote: »
    Nothing has been announced yet bar Godfall (think that’s the name)

    I’ve had the polar opposite experience myself, but different strokes I suppose.

    I'll buy the PS5 eventually, but I won't be running out day 1 for Godfall. Now if a launch title was a new GOW, then I just might change my mind :)

    Yeah, it's fine and you are probably in the majority with that experience. I would like to work it out though!
    Just on the sheer number of exclusives per platform, I might have played more PS ones, I don't know haha!


  • #45
    HairySalmon
    Registered Users Posts: 509 ✭✭✭HairySalmon


    marcbrophy wrote: »
    I'll buy the PS5 eventually, but I won't be running out day 1 for Godfall. Now if a launch title was a new GOW, then I just might change my mind :)

    Yeah, it's fine and you are probably in the majority with that experience. I would like to work it out though!
    Just on the sheer number of exclusives per platform, I might have played more PS ones, I don't know haha!

    Neither will I to be fair, the game doesn’t appeal to me at all.

    But I am looking forward to Sony and MS’s showing in full. They’ll both show us games that you can’t miss out on.

    I bought all the consoles this gen and I won’t be doing that again because I didn’t think it was worth it for me, so I’ll see the proper announcements go.


  • #46
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,319 ✭✭✭rob808


    marcbrophy wrote: »
    I'll buy the PS5 eventually, but I won't be running out day 1 for Godfall. Now if a launch title was a new GOW, then I just might change my mind :)

    Yeah, it's fine and you are probably in the majority with that experience. I would like to work it out though!
    Just on the sheer number of exclusives per platform, I might have played more PS ones, I don't know haha!
    well there bluepoints game rumour to be Demon soul im buying both series x and ps5 not together.The good thing about series x is gamepass won't have to buy a game at launch.The ps5 on the other hand I will but if it true about Demon soul I wont mind.


  • #47
    Fingleberries
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭Fingleberries


    Coming out with the official name and design this far ahead of launch, and with just two weeks to go before Christmas, MS must be confident.

    Game Pass and keeping your existing games and peripherals from Xbox One will be a good way to ensure a smooth transition - you have a huge library of games on day one. If it does some upscale jiggery-pokery like the Xbox One X did for games like Red Dead, that would be awesome.

    I like how news sites are measuring the dimensions of the console in Xbox Controllers (I'm not sure whether that is imperial Xbox Controllers or metric Xbox Controllers as a unit of measurement) They'll have to convert that to Duke controllers for longer term Xbox players - the console = one Duke controller.


  • #48
    Mr. TTime
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭Mr. TTime


    Fingleberries wrote: »
    I like how news sites are measuring the dimensions of the console in Xbox Controllers (I'm not sure whether that is imperial Xbox Controllers or metric Xbox Controllers as a unit of measurement) They'll have to convert that to Duke controllers for longer term Xbox players - the console = one Duke controller.

    To my old eyes it looks like 4 Kinects wrapped up like a bunch of twigs...

    I do really like the design though


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    K.O.Kiki
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    Discussion here on reddit


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    Gamer Bhoy 89
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    https://twitter.com/Doug_DragoX/status/1219794270518947840

    The slot next to the HDMI slot is apparently "for diagnostics" - not sure what that means but I'd say this thing is an empty shell.


  • #51
    CatInABox
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    Gamer Bhoy 89 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/Doug_DragoX/status/1219794270518947840

    The slot next to the HDMI slot is apparently "for diagnostics" - not sure what that means but I'd say this thing is an empty shell.

    Nah, it's real apparently, same type as Phil Spencer has. Dianostics/Debug port isn't unusual on a prerelease product like this, it's so they can hook it up to a PC and take a closer look at what's going on software wise.


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