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Kia Niro EV

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    #1922
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 13,999 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    KCross wrote: »
    The idea is to charge at night where there is masses of spare electric capacity that wont affect our peak demand at all.

    Some upgrades will be required in time when we have the majority of cars charging at night but thats a decade or two away.
    Yet our individual peak demand continues to increase

    I was not addressing the supply issue and its peak demand, but individual peak demand.

    So local substations and even more local transformers, meters etc etc will need upgrading should a lot of people in groups of houses go BEV and charge at night.
    Just like broadband issues, once there is a way to consume higher amounts, people will demand a higher supply, whether any one of us considers it a 'necessity' or not.

    Over the decades we have moved from 5A, 15A, 40A supplies to 60A most common now. 80A is available I recall reading on Boards someplace.

    Apparently 29KVA (~120A) is the max available for a household now, but the infrastructure is not present to support a majority moving to that supply rate.


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    #1923
    KCross
    Registered Users Posts: 12,090 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    I was not addressing the supply issue and its peak demand, but individual peak demand.

    So local substations and even more local transformers, meters etc etc will need upgrading should a lot of people in groups of houses go BEV and charge at night.

    supply demand and individual peak demand are closely aligned.

    The point is there is loads of capacity, even locally, to charge at night.

    ESB have a report on it if you search the forum.... i posted it a few times.


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    #1924
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 13,999 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    KCross wrote: »
    supply demand and individual peak demand are closely aligned.

    The point is there is loads of capacity, even locally, to charge at night.

    ESB have a report on it if you search the forum.... i posted it a few times.

    I repeat ..... it is the infrastructure capacity I am referring to and not the supply capacity.


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    #1925
    KCross
    Registered Users Posts: 12,090 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    I repeat ..... it is the infrastructure capacity I am referring to and not the supply capacity.

    I was replying to your twice repeated "peak demand" posts which is a supply term.

    On the local infrastructure side, that's all in the ESB report too.

    There will be some localised infrastructure upgrades required(typically end of rural lines) as we move forward but not wholesale upgrades until we get to something like 400,000 EV's.


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    #1926
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 13,999 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    KCross wrote: »
    I was replying to your twice repeated "peak demand" posts which is a supply term.

    I can only guess why you changed what I wrote
    our individual peak demand

    to something you apparently wanted for your own purposes.

    I have enough of this!


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    #1927
    KCross
    Registered Users Posts: 12,090 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    I can only guess why you changed what I wrote



    to something you apparently wanted for your own purposes.

    I have enough of this!

    You’ve lost me now. I didn’t change what you wrote.

    I’ve responded to your infrastructure question now that you clarified it.

    But if you feel the need to be annoyed be my guest.


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    #1928
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭championc


    For anyone awaiting their e-Niro, the Morning Celine is due to arrive into Dublin on 05/12/2019. Nothing else currently listed on the Eukor website. It would be listing ships en-route for arrivals up to the first week in January, which have already departed Pyeongtaek


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    #1929
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭championc


    CPTM wrote: »
    Yeah I saw both today. E soul has more back seat space but a tiny boot. So I went with the Eniro which seems to have a lot of space in the boot in comparison.

    Apparently there was a misunderstanding about delivery date. He thought I needed it by January, and said he doesn't know when it will arrive but it will definitely be the first quarter. Anytime before April is fine with me. He was confident about that so I paid the 500€ deposit for it. Fingers crossed it comes before April. And we get the 500€ Supervalu voucher too which is great.

    My dealer contacted me today. He confirmed that I will be in the second batch of the year, which will be April. Since they cannot confirm anything exactly (neither dates or prices), he said that they (Kia Ireland) will NOT be honoring the inclusion of a €500 SuperValu voucher !!!


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    #1930
    graememk
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    championc wrote: »
    My dealer contacted me today. He confirmed that I will be in the second batch of the year, which will be April. Since they cannot confirm anything exactly (neither dates or prices), he said that they (Kia Ireland) will NOT be honoring the inclusion of a €500 SuperValu voucher !!!

    Where abouts is your dealer? It's like they don't want to sell the car!!


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    #1931
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭championc


    graememk wrote: »
    Where abouts is your dealer? It's like they don't want to sell the car!!

    Dundrum, Dublin


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    #1932
    graememk
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    championc wrote: »
    Dundrum, Dublin

    I'll let you know know if mine contacts me with any changes. But the pull back on the voucher is a bit of a kick in the teeth. I was told I was getting it too.


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    #1933
    CPTM
    Registered Users Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭CPTM


    Interesting. He showed me my name being put on a list in an Excel file for the voucher. I wonder can I ask for a refund if they suddenly back out of that. It was very clearly part of the deal.


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    #1934
    zg3409
    Registered Users Posts: 6,606 ✭✭✭zg3409


    CPTM wrote: »
    Interesting. He showed me my name being put on a list in an Excel file for the voucher. I wonder can I ask for a refund if they suddenly back out of that. It was very clearly part of the deal.

    Ring a different dealer then cancel old dealer. If course you can cancel, he changed the deal. Everything is negotiable, if he can't give you the voucher he can knock 500 off price. You can decide if you want to walk away and buy a different car.


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    #1935
    icom
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭icom


    championc wrote: »
    My dealer contacted me today. He confirmed that I will be in the second batch of the year, which will be April. Since they cannot confirm anything exactly (neither dates or prices), he said that they (Kia Ireland) will NOT be honoring the inclusion of a €500 SuperValu voucher !!!

    Looks like the offer only covers 201 registered cars. If it's going to be a 202 reg, I don't think they will offer the voucher.

    From the KIA website:
    Simply put down a deposit of €500 on any 201 Kia model before 18th December 2019 and we’ll return it you in €500 SuperValu Giftcard! This €500 voucher is based on a non-refundable deposit of €500 placed on a 201 registration retail model.


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    #1936
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭championc


    icom wrote: »
    Looks like the offer only covers 201 registered cars. If it's going to be a 202 reg, I don't think they will offer the voucher.

    From the KIA website:
    Simply put down a deposit of €500 on any 201 Kia model before 18th December 2019 and we’ll return it you in €500 SuperValu Giftcard! This €500 voucher is based on a non-refundable deposit of €500 placed on a 201 registration retail model.

    Yep - and July is way after April, and April is pretty much nailed down. So if it was contractually bound, it would be solid.


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    #1937
    graememk
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,880 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    ive Just got the gift card in todays post :) I was originally on a jan delivery but choose to wait for the 2nd edition


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    #1938
    icom
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭icom


    graememk wrote: »
    ive Just got the gift card in todays post :) I was originally on a jan delivery but choose to wait for the 2nd edition

    Expecting my gift voucher early next week, it's a January delivery.

    The eNiro is sitting at the dealers for the past two weeks and it's killing me seeing it every day when I drive past on the way to and from work !

    Can't wait :)


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    #1939
    graememk
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,880 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    icom wrote: »
    Expecting my gift voucher early next week, it's a January delivery.

    The eNiro is sitting at the dealers for the past two weeks and it's killing me seeing it every day when I drive past on the way to and from work !

    Can't wait :)

    Know that feeling, we've had it with tractors, we had one sitting for 2-3 months as we didnt "need" it until the spring time and wanted the new plates, Also wanted some modifications too done on it before it arrived.

    My letter was dated 22 nov and came via registered post


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    #1940
    icom
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭icom


    graememk wrote: »
    ive Just got the gift card in todays post :) I was originally on a jan delivery but choose to wait for the 2nd edition

    Got home to discover that the the Supervalu gift voucher had arrived today.
    Just had it in my hand for a minute before the other half claimed it :)

    Also dated 22 nov and came via registered post.


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    #1941
    graememk
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    icom wrote: »
    Got home to discover that the the Supervalu gift voucher had arrived today.
    Just had it in my hand for a minute before the other half claimed it :)

    Also dated 22 nov and came via registered post.

    Mine hasnt seen it but its already claimed... Is the one you have ordered the demo that they have there or a different one?


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    #1942
    icom
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭icom


    graememk wrote: »
    Mine hasnt seen it but its already claimed... Is the one you have ordered the demo that they have there or a different one?

    It is the Silver one, don't think it was offically a demo, but I know a few people had a spin over the open weekend, including myself !
    Demo miles discount was agreed !

    My last three cars were silver, so I'm sticking with that, easy to keep clean :)

    This is the one:
    http://www.inishowenmotors.ie/car-details/2433515/


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    #1943
    graememk
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    icom wrote: »

    This is the one:
    http://www.inishowenmotors.ie/car-details/2433515/
    Yep that's the one I was on about :-) it's a lovely car!


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    #1944
    Old diesel
    Registered Users Posts: 5,788 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    icom wrote: »
    It is the Silver one, don't think it was offically a demo, but I know a few people had a spin over the open weekend, including myself !
    Demo miles discount was agreed !

    My last three cars were silver, so I'm sticking with that, easy to keep clean :)

    This is the one:
    http://www.inishowenmotors.ie/car-details/2433515/

    Nice car.


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    #1945
    MizMix
    Registered Users Posts: 313 ✭✭MizMix


    Have the same one icom - waiting in the dealers since last week so I'm hoping the grant application doesn't take long and I can pick up right away in Jan. Wanted white but the silver is a good colour.


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    #1946
    Bif
    Registered Users Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Bif


    Lads. Anyone know if there is a Niro EV demo model available to drive in any dealer in Cork / Limerick area? Thanks.


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    #1947
    ewj1978
    Registered Users Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭ewj1978


    Try J&P in Douglas. They had one a few weeks ago.


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    #1948
    paulers06
    Registered Users Posts: 548 ✭✭✭paulers06


    Nothing in Limerick. Latest as of Saturday is that there demo will land in January/February.

    We test drove a demo at Nyhan motors, Bandon


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    #1949
    icom
    Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭icom


    MizMix wrote: »
    Have the same one icom - waiting in the dealers since last week so I'm hoping the grant application doesn't take long and I can pick up right away in Jan. Wanted white but the silver is a good colour.

    Would have liked the Platinum Graphite, but with the eNiro being so scarce on the ground, suppose I'm lucky to be getting any colour !
    I was offered one in Runway Red, but I don't want a red car, so sticking with the silver. Hope they get the grant sorted asap and I can pick up very early January.


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    #1950
    graememk
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,880 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Kia uk has released a press release about the next version of one coming to the UK

    https://www.kiapressoffice.com/en-gb/releases/1129?fbclid=IwAR1EC1yjCti6GxlDYHtAEK8Fc7-YV--LJZmf7cy_hbz0jnOC_iYXrV0VbdA


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    #1951
    spakman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭spakman


    I saw two trucks carrying e-Niros heading south on M50 this morning (to the depot at Baldonnel I presume).


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