Tesla Cybertruck

macnab · 21-11-2019 7:03pm #1

Tesla is to unveil their newest vehicle tonight at 11pm EST, which is 4am here in Ireland. Hopefully there will be a live feed on the Tesla website.
For those of you who don't know the Cybertruck is rumoured to be a sub $50,000 pick-up truck. Its mainly aimed at the US market where pick-ups are a very lucrative segment for manufacturers.

eddhorse · 21-11-2019 7:23pm

Yeah it's a bit too early in the morning for me, I expect my timelines to be full tomorrow.
Hopefully will be a good challenge for the Ford F150 which sells about ~75,000 vehicles a month.
More numbers for that and other trucks here:
https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2019-us-pickup-truck-sales-figures-by-model/

JohnC. · 22-11-2019 5:40am

Well, it stands out at least. He said he doesn't care if people don't like it! Starts at $39,900.

https://www.tesla.com/en_ie/cybertruck

JohnC. · 22-11-2019 5:48am

Single motor RWD or dual and tri motor AWD versions. 250+ to 500+ miles. 0-60 in <6.5/4.5/<2.9 depending on motor configuration. Towing capacity 7,500+/10,000+/14,000+ lbs.

Production in late 2021, or late 2022 for tri-motor. In Tesla Time.

macnab · 22-11-2019 6:04am

Technically amazing, aesthetically.... Not sure what to say.

ewj1978 · 22-11-2019 7:28am

God I love Tesla.
"we're going to bring out a pickup" Everyone thinks F150.
Tesla " hold my beer" moment
What a mad looking yoke.
I want that quad bike too.

Lumen · 22-11-2019 7:46am

Delorean.

ED E · 22-11-2019 7:48am

He's built a warthog the mad bastard.

Wonder will we see Isis in these like the hillux ^_^

AndyBoBandy · 22-11-2019 8:00am

Finally, someone made the car from Total Recall

JohhnyCab

JPA · 22-11-2019 8:11am

Electricity will be the mother's milk of this dystopian future.

listermint · 22-11-2019 8:15am

It's...

Words.

lawred2 · 22-11-2019 8:19am

He's such a troll

scotchy · 22-11-2019 8:20am

Looks stealthy, speed camera proof.:)

hedzball · 22-11-2019 8:24am

And whats the range towing 3 tonnes exactly?? Throwing out range figures on a work vehicle without loading it is a waste of time.

FarmerBrowne · 22-11-2019 8:54am

It's like the car Homer invented.

Oafley Jones · 22-11-2019 9:15am

That's amazingly bad. I'm not sure if he's serious with that. It's looks like some prop car (that'd be in the far, far background) from some 1990s sci-fi movie.

is_that_so · 22-11-2019 9:17am

Oops!:D
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/nov/22/cybertruck-tesla-unveils-the-pickup-truck-we-have-to-have

Oafley Jones · 22-11-2019 9:20am

I'm being 100% serious here; Is this a joke, or a publicity stunt?

nullObjects · 22-11-2019 9:21am

Oafley Jones wrote: »

I'm being 100% serious here; Is this a joke, or a publicity stunt?

I thought it was a placeholder design when I saw the reveal

jusmeig · 22-11-2019 9:25am

Oafley Jones wrote: »

I'm being 100% serious here; Is this a joke, or a publicity stunt?

Does not look like it, Elon and Franz are current flaying the poor engineer who fitted the non Magic Cyber Glass.

gozunda · 22-11-2019 9:31am

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Finally, someone made the car from Total Recall

JohhnyCab

Certainly Bladerunnerish

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRbGHV50YmMII-MbukNxUgO1QbGgV2YS_ByVNex_1ZFswWMgPFL

ELM327 · 22-11-2019 9:34am

Well, that car is still loading

drunkmonkey · 22-11-2019 10:22am

Charging your ATV in the back of it is genius, he just launched 2 new products, dirt bikes and jet skis to follow no doubt.
If you could slam it with the air suspension it would be pretty cool looking.

banie01 · 22-11-2019 10:25am

ELM327 wrote: »

Well, that car is still loading

The texture pack is a pay to play upgrade! :pac:

Old diesel · 22-11-2019 11:53am

Disappointing.

Tesla have shown they can do MUCH better then this styling wise.

Open goal for VW to develop something nicer then this in my opinion.

ELM327 · 22-11-2019 12:20pm

So..
Will get the tri motor version in 2022
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22-11-2019 12:33pm

Elon wasn't lying when he said that the design will be polarising. I think it's really cool especially the stainless steel but I suspect that Tesla has created a real coal rolling target now and on purpose too.

Well done ELM for ordering one. I'm tempted too tbh.

ELM327 · 22-11-2019 12:38pm

I just think it's hilarious looking.
100 quid for a couple of years to decide (and pay off some of my model S loan!) is fair enough IMO.

Padre_Pio · 22-11-2019 12:39pm

Definitely not a fan. Looks like something from Half Life.

josip · 22-11-2019 12:53pm

How do Tesla (and other car companies keep) the appearance of this a secret until launch?
There must be a large number of people involved in its production, plus designs, drawings, sketches, photos.
How does nothing get leaked?

ELM327 · 22-11-2019 1:00pm

josip wrote: »

How do Tesla (and other car companies keep) the appearance of this a secret until launch?
There must be a large number of people involved in its production, plus designs, drawings, sketches, photos.
How does nothing get leaked?

Everyone working there believes in the company and the message.
Either that and/or Elon is able to get buy in from everyone to not spill the beans beforehand

I like the great reveals

80sDiesel · 22-11-2019 1:03pm

Put down an order. Have been waiting for an electric pickup.

rivegauche · 22-11-2019 1:48pm

The FIAT Multipla and Ssangyong Rodius better watch out. There is a new boy on the block contending for the crown of ugliest car ever.
Pontiac Aztec just looks bland in comparisson.

cnocbui · 22-11-2019 1:59pm

At least the glass breaking lent an air of reality.

If that thing passes EU pedestrian collision tests, I would be more than surprised.

22-11-2019 2:01pm

All four are an example of polarising design. I for some reason am always drawn to unusual designs so I applaud Tesla for the bravery. The folk with different tastes can get the GM/Ford version if they're in market for an electric pickup. All three should make it to market around same time whith this. And Rivian will be around too if you want just a touch of polarising image.

It's great to have genuine choice in the world of largely boring cars.

22-11-2019 2:03pm

cnocbui wrote: »

At least the glass breaking lent an air of reality.

If that thing passes EU pedestrian collision tests, I would be more than surprised.

I don't think the pickup trucks in general fare very well for pedestrian safety. At least with Tesla's design it will be easy to provide a nice and soft "bonnet".

rivegauche · 22-11-2019 2:11pm

samih wrote: »

I don't think the pickup trucks in general fare very well for pedestrian safety. At least with Tesla's design it will be easy to provide a nice and soft "bonnet".

Since when is stainless steel soft(or easy to clean for that matter)
Pedestrian mortality figures have been going up in recent years due to the higher stance of SUVs and Trucks. It isn't the saloons and hatchbacks that are killing people any more.

PaulRyan97 · 22-11-2019 2:24pm

Was just looking up the F-150 there, the most commonly sold variant in the US is the 2.7L ecoboost, according to the EPA it gets 22mpg (10.69L/100km). One of the most popular vehicles in the US would be one of the most fuel inefficient here.

I wonder what proportion of the existing market Tesla are going for. Is it urban users of pickup trucks, I'd hazard a guess that if your deep in nowhere Texas than you're probably a fair distance from a supercharger.

cnocbui · 22-11-2019 2:28pm

samih wrote: »

I don't think the pickup trucks in general fare very well for pedestrian safety. At least with Tesla's design it will be easy to provide a nice and soft "bonnet".

Get hit by that and you'll be going forward or under it. How hard or soft the bonnet is, is irrelevant. Those protruding wheel hubs look to be a significant potential hazard for cyclists.

22-11-2019 2:31pm

rivegauche wrote: »

Since when is stainless steel soft(or easy to clean for that matter)
Pedestrian mortality figures have been going up in recent years due to the higher stance of SUVs and Trucks. It isn't the saloons and hatchbacks that are killing people any more.

I did point out that the pickup trucks are not typically safe for pedestrians. The bonnet can be made soft with the right thickness of materials and by not having an engine with ancillaries to stop the deflection happening. Also the steeply raked windscreen is kind to pedestrians compared to typical windscreen. Finally the autopilot should ensure that most of the contacts can be avoided by the time this launches.

rivegauche · 22-11-2019 2:33pm

margins on Trucks in the US are even higher than Tesla cars and German luxury cars.
A small slice of that market would be very profitable.
Personally I think Rivian or the Ford truck that will be based on a Rivian has a better chance of capturing the Conservative Republican demographic that buy Trucks.
The more workmanlike you make a Truck look, the better it sells in the U.S.
I've been following a US motor industry trends channel for quite a while and they're a strange bunch that buy full size trucks in the U.S.

Autoline on Youtube.

muckwarrior · 22-11-2019 2:33pm

I think it's cool as fυck! Vehicle design these days is so bloody bland. It's nice to see something that actually stands out.

cnocbui · 22-11-2019 2:36pm

samih wrote: »

I did point out that the pickup trucks are not typically safe for pedestrians. The bonnet can be made soft with the right thickness of materials and by not having an engine with ancillaries to stop the deflection happening. Also the steeply raked windscreen is kind to pedestrians compared to typical windscreen. Finally the autopilot should ensure that most of the contacts can be avoided by the time this launches.

Er - any impact where body deflection would be retarded by an engine would probably be at least 50 times over the fatality threshold for a pedestrian collision. The placement of the engine is irrelevant.

PaulRyan97 · 22-11-2019 2:37pm

https://ww.electrek.co/2019/11/22/tesla-cybertruck-vs-rivian-r1t-electric-pickup-comparison/

Damn, this could deal a hammer blow to Rivian. That price difference is something else.

rivegauche · 22-11-2019 2:38pm

Trucks aren't subject to the same safety regulations as Cars due to successful lobbying by the US Big Three Manufacturers.

rivegauche · 22-11-2019 2:41pm

PaulRyan97 wrote: »

https://ww.electrek.co/2019/11/22/tesla-cybertruck-vs-rivian-r1t-electric-pickup-comparison/

Damn, this could deal a hammer blow to Rivian. That price difference is something else.

Price isn't that important. They're paying around 70k average for full size trucks as it is and have no appetite for small ones which is why Honda and Nissan are struggling in the market.
It is a really strange market that Europeans don't understand but I don't think Tech Geeks in northern California "get" it either.

BorneTobyWilde · 22-11-2019 2:42pm

I think it looks very unique, it's a bit like a Mars Rover , looks like it belongs on another planet. That is nailing the whole point of it's styling, suppose to look like it should be on another planet

pdpmur · 22-11-2019 2:43pm

samih wrote: »

I don't think the pickup trucks in general fare very well for pedestrian safety. At least with Tesla's design it will be easy to provide a nice and soft "bonnet".

Yep, as long as the pedestrian getting hit can make sure to conveniently hit the nice flat bit of the bonnet without first getting impaled on the almost spiky corners or getting their legs chopped off at the knee by the knife-edge bumper, everything should be fine!

BorneTobyWilde · 22-11-2019 2:48pm

The glass breaking was funny, as normal glass in a side window of a car is pretty hard to break, could throw rocks at one countless times and it would not break, those windows in Tesla broke with one go.

22-11-2019 2:51pm

pdpmur wrote: »

Yep, as long as the pedestrian getting hit can make sure to conveniently hit the nice flat bit of the bonnet without first getting impaled on the almost spiky corners or getting their legs chopped off at the knee by the knife-edge bumper, everything should be fine!

I don't know what the construction of the front clip is like but as there won't be anything much mechanical in there Tesla can make the corners as soft as they want to.

22-11-2019 2:54pm

cnocbui wrote: »

Er - any impact where body deflection would be retarded by an engine would probably be at least 50 times over the fatality threshold for a pedestrian collision. The placement of the engine is irrelevant.

Tell that to the car manufacturers that are making the car fronts higher and higher to allow space under the bonnet for pedestrian safety.

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