TV Debate! Who do you think won tonight's debate? - 19/November/2019

ancapailldorcha · 19-11-2019 8:33pm #1

As per a user suggestion, I'm putting up a poll about the ITV leaders' debate of 19 November 2019.

liamtech · 19-11-2019 8:38pm

Im recording this on my Free To Air Satellite Box, so i will attempt to compress and upload for those users that cannot view the debate - this may take some time but i should be able to do it tonight

I will let everyone know when this is done. I suspect i wont be able to post this on Youtube or a video hosting site but it should be possible to do a download on a hosting site - Size will be issue so quality will be very basic (no Ultra High Definition Surround Sound im afraid!)

ancapailldorcha · 19-11-2019 8:45pm

liamtech wrote: »

Im recording this on my Free To Air Satellite Box, so i will attempt to compress and upload for those users that cannot view the debate - this may take some time but i should be able to do it tonight

I will let everyone know when this is done. I suspect i wont be able to post this on Youtube or a video hosting site but it should be possible to do a download on a hosting site - Size will be issue so quality will be very basic (no Ultra High Definition Surround Sound im afraid!)

This might not be a good idea. There may be legal or copyright issues. I'd say ITV will stick it on Youtube anyway once it's done.

liamtech · 19-11-2019 8:48pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

This might not be a good idea. There may be legal or copyright issues. I'd say ITV will stick it on Youtube anyway once it's done.

Ok understood - my understanding was that as it is broadcast in Free to Air, that is unencrypted to anyone in reception range, means it should be kosher like sharing a VHS - but i understand - i will record and compress and we will see if it ends up on Youtube

And if not then perhaps it can be shared via another medium if possible - no wish to cause trouble:o

ancapailldorcha · 19-11-2019 8:49pm

liamtech wrote: »

Ok understood - my understanding was that as it is broadcast in Free to Air, that is unencrypted to anyone in reception range, means it should be kosher like sharing a VHS - but i understand - i will record and compress and we will see if it ends up on Youtube

And if not then perhaps it can be shared via another medium if possible - no wish to cause trouble:o

I genuinely don't know. Might be best to err on the side of caution and it's likely to end up on Youtube with better quality anyway. Awfully considerate of you, though.

Danzy · 19-11-2019 8:55pm

Is it online live

igCorcaigh · 19-11-2019 8:58pm

Will it be live on periscope?

https://www.pscp.tv/w/cKRAvTFQWEVkUmdsYlJsS2V8MU95S0FlZHFkb3JLYrf4Jamr9pMU0mZFv6Y6Y-r2aLykwR8a9-iuuCsRnCi_?t=2m32s

ancapailldorcha · 19-11-2019 8:59pm

Live here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kEB5pqWpJw

liamtech · 19-11-2019 9:01pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Live here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kEB5pqWpJw

Ah spot on then - minutes away - Enjoy all -

gooch2k9 · 19-11-2019 9:03pm

Johnson's tie carefully lined up 3 degrees off center. Hopefully something actually comes out of this.

jogdish · 19-11-2019 9:05pm

Is there something funny about Corbyns (my left his right) eye? or are the glasses tilted?

CPTM · 19-11-2019 9:06pm

Does anyone know what Virgin Media channel I could view the debate on?

EDIT: Here's a link..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kEB5pqWpJw

dublinman1990 · 19-11-2019 9:07pm

Danzy wrote: »

Is it online live

Yep. ITV News Youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kEB5pqWpJw

ancapailldorcha · 19-11-2019 9:08pm

jogdish wrote: »

Is there something funny about Corbyns (my left his right) eye? or are the glasses tilted?

I noticed as well.

Westernyelp · 19-11-2019 9:09pm

2 people already voted for Johnson in the poll. open minded types obviously

Akrasia · 19-11-2019 9:09pm

dublinman1990 wrote: »

Yep. ITV News Youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kEB5pqWpJw

Corbyns glasses are lobsided. It’s very distracting

Tell me how · 19-11-2019 9:10pm

Real us and them approach with Lib-Dems, SNP, Green and Brexit Party leaders being interviewed later on same channel.

19-11-2019 9:11pm

Akrasia wrote: »

Corbyns glasses are lobsided. It’s very distracting

It's annoying the hell out of me.

Shelga · 19-11-2019 9:11pm

Why did I turn this on. They're both awful. It's not going to change anyone's mind. As usual, I think Corbyn is slightly less awful as I don't think he's a fundamentally nasty, self-interested person, unlike Johnson.

Inquitus · 19-11-2019 9:12pm

1st Debate live by ITV on Youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kEB5pqWpJw

dublinman1990 · 19-11-2019 9:13pm

Is Jeremy Corbyn going to say he is remain or leave for this GE?

19-11-2019 9:15pm

dublinman1990 wrote: »

Is Jeremy Corbyn going to say he is remain or leave for this GE?

Absolutely disgraceful and disrespectful to voters.

He has been asked 4 times - and, like the politicians he condemns, he REFUSES to answer the question.

Shameful!

Corbyn looking like an absolute fool here.

liamtech · 19-11-2019 9:15pm

BRILLIANT sucker punch on the NHS -

dodged answering on whether he is leave or remain but for me

its first round Corbyn - by an inch but still

gooch2k9 · 19-11-2019 9:16pm

Corbyn really should have a better answer for Johnson's obvious question. If he won't take a side explain why that is.

Indestructable · 19-11-2019 9:16pm

Why can't Corbyn just say which side he will fall on. It's crazy hearing him repeat that mantra 4 times, it's meaningless.

CPTM · 19-11-2019 9:18pm

Shelga wrote: »

Why did I turn this on. They're both awful. It's not going to change anyone's mind. As usual, I think Corbyn is slightly less awful as I don't think he's a fundamentally nasty, self-interested person, unlike Johnson.

Johnson is exploiting Corbyn's weaknesses a bit better.

septictank · 19-11-2019 9:18pm

The audience need to be told to stop applauding or this debate will be about which side can clap the loudest and longest.

19-11-2019 9:18pm

Johnson performing far, far better than Corbyn so far in this debate.

Richard Hillman · 19-11-2019 9:19pm

Why do they insist on live audiences. It always end up with a clapaton between sides. It's nonsense

Danzy · 19-11-2019 9:21pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Johnson performing far, far better than Corbyn so far in this debate.

He is much better debater but seems to be a debate that will not shift much opinion.

Corbyn doing well enough.

sid waddell · 19-11-2019 9:23pm

Corbyn destroyed Johnson on the NHS. If the NHS isn't on the table, Johnson wouldn't be having metings with Trump about it. He is.

The NHS is very much on the table, and the Yanks will demand their pound of flesh.

In response to Corbyn's stance on a Brexit referendum, it's pretty simple. He negotiates the best deal possible without the Tories' insane red lines and lets the people decide.

Listen to Johnson here talking about the border under his deal.

An utter bluffer who speaks out both sides of his mouth depending on who he's speaking to. He's speaking to the nation tonight and hasn't a clue what to stay.

FrancieBrady · 19-11-2019 9:24pm

Who is the chair...she is awful. Not getting answers from either of them and rushing on.

sid waddell · 19-11-2019 9:25pm

"Here's why you should trust me, Boris Johnson, a proven liar, a man who has been a liar all my life."

gooch2k9 · 19-11-2019 9:25pm

Danzy wrote: »

He is much better debater but seems to be a debate that will not shift much opinion.

Corbyn doing well enough.

Comes across as overly scripted; "dither and delay", "oven-ready" and "Get Brexit done".

Neck and neck for me. Corbyn does come across as more sincere.

19-11-2019 9:27pm

gooch2k9 wrote: »

Comes across as overly scripted; "dither and delay", "oven-ready" and "Get Brexit done".

Neck and neck for me. Corbyn does come across as more sincere.

What?

Corbyn coming out with the same political lines now as he has for the past 5 years.

The problem with audiences is that it makes people believe "their side" is "winning".

It becomes less about facts and reality.

Johnson is DOMINATING.

hotmail.com · 19-11-2019 9:27pm

Laughs to Johnson talking about truth.

CPTM · 19-11-2019 9:28pm

Johnson is a better debater but only has about 30 minutes of material.. I think he'll start going in circles now, and start using humour.

Edit.. actually, they'll probably both go around in circles now.

A Dub in Glasgo · 19-11-2019 9:28pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Who is the chair...she is awful. Not getting answers from either of them and rushing on.

Julie Etchingham

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Etchingham

19-11-2019 9:29pm

CPTM wrote: »

Johnson is a better debater but only has about 30 minutes of material.. I think he'll start going in circles now, and start using humour.

This is a terrible debate format.

The interviewer is rushing through everything.

The audience should have been warned NOT to clap!

BonnieSituation · 19-11-2019 9:29pm

Corbyn is winning this.

Johnson is brutal. More than I thought he would be!

septictank · 19-11-2019 9:29pm

Johnston not coming across well at all, Corbyn slightly ahead. There's a lot of plants in the audience I think.

liamtech · 19-11-2019 9:30pm

gooch2k9 wrote: »

Comes across as overly scripted; "dither and delay", "oven-ready" and "Get Brexit done".

Neck and neck for me. Corbyn does come across as more sincere.

roughly neck and neck

Corbyn should have hammered home the

Sea Border between the north and GB - business needing to fill in export forms

gooch2k9 · 19-11-2019 9:30pm

Deleted User wrote: »

What?

Corbyn coming out with the same political lines now as he has for the past 5 years.

The problem with audiences is that it makes people believe "their side" is "winning".

It becomes less about facts and reality.

Johnson is DOMINATING.

"Neck and neck" means "my side" is winning? Settle.

FrancieBrady · 19-11-2019 9:31pm

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Julie Etchingham

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Etchingham

:D:D She just let Johnson off the hook again. She's useless

sid waddell · 19-11-2019 9:31pm

Jesus H Christ - Johnson deflects immediately from a question about personal integrity onto Brexit.

He didn't even make a token attempt to answer it.

Indestructable · 19-11-2019 9:32pm

Wtf is ITV doing with this debate format. It's atrocious.

igCorcaigh · 19-11-2019 9:32pm

That SF feel of the studio is just awful.

Westernyelp · 19-11-2019 9:32pm

Way to rushed. nobody has landed a significant blow yet.

jogdish · 19-11-2019 9:32pm

Ya, I liked Julia, but she really needs to tell them to stop clapping, and kinda hammer them on answering some simple yes/no questions. Then again im silly and want:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpEmQeoo414

19-11-2019 9:32pm

Indestructable wrote: »

Wtf is ITV doing with this debate format. It's atrocious.

It's the worst "debate" format I've ever seen.

I knew, once that host was involved, we'd be subject to a ridiculous debate.

It's like she lacks total self-awareness of what is going on and what she should do / be saying, to both the audience and the interviewees.

Danzy · 19-11-2019 9:33pm

Saying to myself while Corbyn was talking, shake his ****ing hand, Johnson didn't miss the opportunity.

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