Strokestown Mod Note in Post #4461

Brendan Bendar · 12-11-2019 09:13PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

Folks... Where is Ben Gilroy... Surely he is the only man that can save us now...

Is he not in the chokey?

Any news from the big sheds at the back?

Jeff2 · 12-11-2019 09:41PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Anna Kavanagh to the rescue! https://youtu.be/BgXSKA82woU?fbclid=IwAR0748O9yxmwswFvKOfiBdtOC5r43Pjk0BXrk0IYvZREfU-ZpoOAWCEUMeI

Isn't that the woman that went off the rails on Facebook when the eviction happened.?

I won't repeat what she said but she went quite then.

12-11-2019 09:52PM

Jeff2 wrote: »

Isn't that the woman that went off the rails on Facebook when the eviction happened.?

I won't repeat what she said but she went quite then.

Nurse......... NURSE.......... SHES OUT AGAIN:pac:

windy shepard henderson · 13-11-2019 08:33PM

jay0109 wrote: »

Still nothing paid since 2014

Incredible to think people feel sorry for them, the vast majority of the country went out in the pissing rain this morning to pay there mortgages, bills ect..

Here is a land owner with assets to pay off his debts but won't because of stubbornness and freeman bull****.... And apparently some fella on YouTube that reckons money doesn't exist.... Or something

The biggest mistake the bank made was getting a group of heavies down from the North especially when they consider themselves British , this is something that won't end well as a result

Brendan Bendar · 13-11-2019 09:39PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

Incredible to think people feel sorry for them, the vast majority of the country went out in the pissing rain this morning to pay there mortgages, bills ect..

Here is a land owner with assets to pay off his debts but won't because of stubbornness and freeman bull****.... And apparently some fella on YouTube that reckons money doesn't exist.... Or something

The biggest mistake the bank made was getting a group of heavies down from the North especially when they consider themselves British , this is something that won't end well as a result

It has to be brought to a successful conclusion, to protect those who actually pay their debts, otherwise it’s anarchy.

gandalf · 13-11-2019 10:06PM

If the bank gain possession of the house again they should bulldoze it immediately to stop this ****e continuing.

pablo128 · 13-11-2019 10:09PM

gandalf wrote: »

If the bank gain possession of the house again they should bulldoze it immediately to stop this ****e continuing.

I was only saying the same thing to a lad in work today . Flatten it to fcuk.

Ash.J.Williams · 14-11-2019 10:44AM

get irish professionals to feck them out and i'll be happy enough. hiring criminals wasn't the best idea.

Nevin Parsnipp · 14-11-2019 10:53AM

Not a lot happen's in Strokestown ....so this is an opportunity for the locals to do a bit of Buckleppin and show them up in Dublin that they can't do what they like.

Bad idea to hire the Nordies to carry out the eviction...could scupper the whole deal.

Good few folks these days seem to think that you can borrow money without having to pay it back...so this will be an interesting test case .

blueythebear · 14-11-2019 12:28PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

get irish professionals to feck them out and i'll be happy enough. hiring criminals wasn't the best idea.

When wasit ever said that the eviction team were criminals? There have been claims that they were unlicensed but there is no evidence either way being reported on.

Fact is, that no irish security team will evict people because of the "house for free" brigade.

blueythebear · 14-11-2019 12:30PM

Nevin Parsnipp wrote: »

Not a lot happen's in Strokestown ....so this is an opportunity for the locals to do a bit of Buckleppin and show them up in Dublin that they can't do what they like.

Bad idea to hire the Nordies to carry out the eviction...could scupper the whole deal.

Good few folks these days seem to think that you can borrow money without having to pay it back...so this will be an interesting test case .

The next step will be prison for anyone on the property. There is a high court injunction there which anyone on the property is in breach of, which is contempt of court

RossieMan · 14-11-2019 12:35PM

blueythebear wrote: »

The next step will be prison for anyone on the property. There is a high court injunction there which anyone on the property is in breach of, which is contempt of court

they haven't removed them yet. good luck to them enforcing it.

blueythebear · 14-11-2019 01:22PM

RossieMan wrote: »

they haven't removed them yet. good luck to them enforcing it.

That is a matter for the gardai. An attachment and committal order will be sought from the court and the gardai will attend and arrest everyone there...they will be jailed until they purge their contempt.

The only support the family are receiving are from fringe anti eviction types, none of whom are local. If you google the names of those people mentioned in the news reports you will quickly see their form.

Brendan Bendar · 14-11-2019 03:20PM

blueythebear wrote: »

That is a matter for the gardai. An attachment and committal order will be sought from the court and the gardai will attend and arrest everyone there...they will be jailed until they purge their contempt.

The only support the family are receiving are from fringe anti eviction types, none of whom are local. If you google the names of those people mentioned in the news reports you will quickly see their form.

Correct Bluey, flying squads moved in.

These tossers should be put in the chokey if they break the law.

Time to end this arse boxing and see what the big sheds were holding.

mgn · 14-11-2019 03:50PM

Looks like a lot of hate around here for people from the country who don't pay their debts.
Seems like if you owe a few hundred thousand your treated like vermin, but if your a big developer like Harry Crosbie, and a few of his mates you can owe hundreds of millions and still walk round like a celebrity and still live like a king,
And while i agree the should have being evicted years ago and it should never have got to this stage, not everyone mixes with celebrity barristers and just bury their head in sand when this happens.

blinding · 14-11-2019 03:55PM

Perhaps banks should be more careful who they lend to !

Bring Loyalist Henchmen to do evictions Ain’t Brains 101 either .

mgn · 14-11-2019 03:57PM

Nevin Parsnipp wrote: »

Not a lot happen's in Strokestown ....so this is an opportunity for the locals to do a bit of Buckleppin and show them up in Dublin that they can't do what they like.

Bad idea to hire the Nordies to carry out the eviction...could scupper the whole deal.

Good few folks these days seem to think that you can borrow money without having to pay it back...so this will be an interesting test case .

Not a lot happens in Strokestown, what is that supposed to mean.
Get out of your junkie and scumbag riddled city now and again to see there is a place that exists outside Dublin.

mgn · 14-11-2019 04:17PM

As for the locals who were branded thugs and vigilantes that attacked the security guards and shot the dog,get your fact straight,most were from outside the county, most noticeably a Dublin man whose father owns a security company,Now i wonder why was he went down the there, i suppose he felt it was his duty to help some farmer in the west of Ireland.

https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2019/1101/1088070-strokestown-court/

blueythebear · 14-11-2019 04:41PM

mgn wrote: »

Looks like a lot of hate around here for people from the country who don't pay their debts.
Seems like if you owe a few hundred thousand your treated like vermin, but if your a big developer like Harry Crosbie, and a few of his mates you can owe hundreds of millions and still walk round like a celebrity and still live like a king,
And while i agree the should have being evicted years ago and it should never have got to this stage, not everyone mixes with celebrity barristers and just bury their head in sand when this happens.

This situation is noyhing to do with burying heads in the sand. This is a serial defaulter who refuses to engage and then relies on pseudolegal advice from nutcases. The court even described it as such.

Large developers who owe millions are not relevant to this story. They did not leverage millions against the family home and if they did they lost the family home.

If these people get away with it then everyone simply stops paying their mortgage and you have chaos. Plus, the bank involved has been successful in every court application where all the facts have been before the court to consider.

blueythebear · 14-11-2019 04:46PM

blinding wrote: »

Perhaps banks should be more careful who they lend to !

If i leave my door open, is it my fault that my house is burgled?

blueythebear · 14-11-2019 04:48PM

mgn wrote: »

As for the locals who were branded thugs and vigilantes that attacked the security guards and shot the dog,get your fact straight,most were from outside the county, most noticeably a Dublin man whose father owns a security company,Now i wonder why was he went down the there, i suppose he felt it was his duty to help some farmer in the west of Ireland.

https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2019/1101/1088070-strokestown-court/

RTE reported during the week that the protestors are not local

mgn · 14-11-2019 04:58PM

blueythebear wrote: »

This situation is noyhing to do with burying heads in the sand. This is a serial defaulter who refuses to engage and then relies on pseudolegal advice from nutcases. The court even described it as such.

Large developers who owe millions are not relevant to this story. They did not leverage millions against the family home and if they did they lost the family home.

If these people get away with it then everyone simply stops paying their mortgage and you have chaos. Plus, the bank involved has been successful in every court application where all the facts have been before the court to consider.

So its okay if your smart enough not to include your family mansion, These developers should have everything taking of them as well.
What about Frank Mcnamara and his barrister wife who got a 3 million write off, the celebrity chef in Clontarf who never paid a penny back on his mortgage for 7 or 8 years, why are these people not evicted , as far as i can see in this country, its not what you owe,its who you know.

mgn · 14-11-2019 05:04PM

blueythebear wrote: »

RTE reported during the week that the protestors are not local

I posted that like link because a few posters on here don't like to deal in facts.

blueythebear · 14-11-2019 05:08PM

mgn wrote: »

So its okay if your smart enough not to include your family mansion, These developers should have everything taking of them as well.
What about Frank Mcnamara and his barrister wife who got a 3 million write off, the celebrity chef in Clontarf who never paid a penny back on his mortgage for 7 or 8 years, why are these people not evicted , as far as i can see in this country, its not what you owe,its who you know.

If the borrower actually had engaged with a pip he would have gotten a deal that would have saved the house much like teresa lowe and frank mcnamara. However he chose not to pay. He chose to listen to the advice of pub lawyers

blueythebear · 14-11-2019 05:10PM

mgn wrote: »

I posted that like link because a few posters on here don't like to deal in facts.

The borrower owed debts to local businesses and several others... i cannot imagine that not paying your neighbours would make you very popular in the locality

mgn · 14-11-2019 05:19PM

blueythebear wrote: »

If the borrower actually had engaged with a pip he would have gotten a deal that would have saved the house much like teresa lowe and frank mcnamara. However he chose not to pay. He chose to listen to the advice of pub lawyers

So that's okay so, play the poor mouse and you get millions of taxpayers money written off.
So you can borrow what you like and if it doesn't work out, the taxpayer foot the bill if you engage with the bank. A joke of a system.

Now if its the family home and you have no means to pay for it that's different story.

mgn · 14-11-2019 05:27PM

blueythebear wrote: »

The borrower owed debts to local businesses and several others... i cannot imagine that not paying your neighbours would make you very popular in the locality[/QU

Some of the business in area that the owed money too had no problem going bankrupt owing millions to locals and starting up again bigger than ever.

blueythebear · 14-11-2019 05:50PM

mgn wrote: »

So that's okay so, play the poor mouse and you get millions of taxpayers money written off.
So you can borrow what you like and if it doesn't work out, the taxpayer foot the bill if you engage with the bank. A joke of a system.

Now if its the family home and you have no means to pay for it that's different story.

I think you misunderstand.... the strokestown could have gone to a pip and gotten a great deal like teresa lowe...but he didnt. He chose to get lunatic pseudo legal advice and not engage with the bank.

Nevin Parsnipp · 14-11-2019 05:54PM

mgn wrote: »

So that's okay so, play the poor mouse and you get millions of taxpayers money written off.
So you can borrow what you like and if it doesn't work out, the taxpayer foot the bill if you engage with the bank. A joke of a system.

Now if its the family home and you have no means to pay for it that's different story.

Have to say that some write downs do seem a tad generous....but the main point is that the folks involved did engage......And they will still pay substantial sums over considerable years.

Now as to Strokestown....it would appear from reports that there is NO engagement just obfuscation and intimidation AND a serial non payment record over and number of years.

If it is the family home there is an option to sell it and move to a more modest property....an option which never seems to get much mentio in this or similiar cases. ?

Capice ?

windy shepard henderson · 14-11-2019 05:56PM

mgn wrote: »

So that's okay so, play the poor mouse and you get millions of taxpayers money written off.
So you can borrow what you like and if it doesn't work out, the taxpayer foot the bill if you engage with the bank. A joke of a system.

Now if its the family home and you have no means to pay for it that's different story.

Anyone that gambles there family home by remortgaging it for 300000 is asking for serious trouble, especially when they have no intention of paying it back

The farmer from strokestown has several assets to pay back what he owes but won't, the majority of people that enter foreclosure with banks are usually people that don't make an effort to pay some bit of there loan

You can't work on the basis that if one person gets away without paying we all should

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