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Garda tries to arrest a minor and mother and family intervene

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    #182
    Bobblehats
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    #183
    GreeBo
    Registered Users Posts: 27,123 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Might help to build community relations

    I'm pretty sure most of these lads are already riding their own sisters tbf.


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    #184
    PukkaStukka
    Registered Users Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    anewme wrote: »
    I saw the whole video on Facebook this morning. The person who posted the video was looking for people to share and to sign some petition against the Garda.

    Well, it totally backfired with the majority of people slating the skangers when you could clearly see the bike on the ground. Most said we need more Gardai like him.

    In response the actual family came on and started abusing everyone who disagreed with them calling them nosey aul cnts and so on. It was hilarious. Someone described it as porn overload for Grammar Nazi's.

    Do you have a link to the Facebook page? I need a good laugh right now


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    #185
    mistersifter
    Registered Users Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭mistersifter


    I'm surprised Al Porter didn't pop up in that video. Isn't intervening in arrests his new thing? He only lives around the corner and all. Would've been a handy one for him!


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    #186
    Calhoun
    Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    I wonder what real punishment you could put in place, as much as i would love for them to get sense knocked into them it wont work.

    What is the answer to crap like this.


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    #187
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Calhoun wrote: »
    I wonder what real punishment you could put in place, as much as i would love for them to get sense knocked into them it wont work.

    What is the answer to crap like this.


    Eviction from social housing , followed by hard labour cleaning the estates they wreck
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    #188
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    anewme wrote: »
    I saw the whole video on Facebook this morning. The person who posted the video was looking for people to share and to sign some petition against the Garda.

    Well, it totally backfired with the majority of people slating the skangers when you could clearly see the bike on the ground. Most said we need more Gardai like him.

    In response the actual family came on and started abusing everyone who disagreed with them calling them nosey aul cnts and so on. It was hilarious. Someone described it as porn overload for Grammar Nazi's.

    Brilliant, just brilliant.

    More of this please.


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    #189
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Calhoun wrote: »
    I wonder what real punishment you could put in place, as much as i would love for them to get sense knocked into them it wont work.

    What is the answer to crap like this.

    Leather injection with a size 10 needle before they get out of hand.


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    #190
    10pennymixup
    Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭10pennymixup


    If only the mother had been sprayed splayed 20 years ago, none of this would have happened,


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    #191
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Calhoun wrote: »
    I wonder what real punishment you could put in place, as much as i would love for them to get sense knocked into them it wont work.

    What is the answer to crap like this.

    Financial penalties as in deduction or suspension of any welfare. Also if housed by local authorities they should also hit them with an anti social behaviour penalty.

    None of the above can be rescinded or paid by cribbing to community welfare officers or local TDs.

    Repeat offenders have payments stopped in lieu of community work.


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    #192
    Klonker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Klonker


    893bet wrote: »
    Feral scum.

    Thanks **** I no longer have to live near this type.

    It can only get worse in the next 50 years. I am getting more and more right wing based on this type of crap.

    You're right, it is getting worse because the likes of these are having as many kids as they want and our taxes wil take care of it, bigger house and all. While the working families are having to make huge sacrifices to have one or two kids.

    I don't want to get into the whole homeless thing but 95% of homeless families are like these, never worked a day in their life, probably kicked out of their HAP home for not paying and/or wrecking the place. Very few homeless are actually decent people who fell on hard times. That's why I hate all this homeless stuff in news and don't give donations to homeless charities, I rather give it straight to the actual living on the streets homeless.


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    #193
    Calhoun
    Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    Financial penalties as in deduction or suspension of any welfare. Also if housed by local authorities they should also hit them with an anti social behaviour penalty.

    None of the above can be rescinded or paid by cribbing to community welfare officers or local TDs.

    Repeat offenders have payments stopped in lieu of community work.

    I suppose the fear of that is though you push them further into crime if you cut off assistance. I don't know if you saw the town in the UK where they tried this, it featured on one of those welfare programs and crime really increased.

    I think we might need a system which has both a carrot and stick in it, right now it just seems like allot of carrot and no stick.


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    #194
    [Deleted User]
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    Ninthlife wrote: »
    Yes, always wear protection

    pity the fookn father didnt..


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    #195
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Garda made a mistake

    Should have pepper sprayed the whole f**king lot of them, then arrested the little “person”

    A lot easier.....


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    #196
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Calhoun wrote: »
    I suppose the fear of that is though you push them further into crime if you cut off assistance. I don't know if you saw the town in the UK where they tried this, it featured on one of those welfare programs and crime really increased.

    I think we might need a system which has both a carrot and stick in it, right now it just seems like allot of carrot and no stick.

    I did see that programme and it was depressing as f*ck seeing the state of the areas.

    Regardless of what society does for the likes of these people they will always resort to crime and anti social behaviour.


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    #197
    Dravokivich
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    Ninthlife wrote: »
    Financial penalties as in deduction or suspension of any welfare. Also if housed by local authorities they should also hit them with an anti social behaviour penalty.

    None of the above can be rescinded or paid by cribbing to community welfare officers or local TDs.

    Repeat offenders have payments stopped in lieu of community work.

    That'll just affect other dependants who may be innocent to the offence in question. It's all well and good throwing out fines or insisting on deductions when it has no impact on yourself.


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    #198
    endacl
    Registered Users Posts: 22,260 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Some estates need to have a massive wall built around them. Nobody gets out without showing a leaving cert.


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    #199
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    endacl wrote: »
    Some estates need to have a massive wall built around them. Nobody gets out without showing a leaving cert.

    Estates? Whole sections of Dublin....just lump the whole lot of them in their.....


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    #200
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    That'll just affect other dependants who may be innocent to the offence in question. It's all well and good throwing out fines or insisting on deductions when it has no impact on yourself.

    Not my problem. Dont be a scumbag and there wont be an issue


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    #201
    BattleCorp
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    Forgive me here but why would someone be searching the internet for a receipt for a scrambler similar to the one in the clip?

    It was hardly to cover up the fact that it was a stolen scrambler, was it?


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    #202
    Dravokivich
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    Ninthlife wrote: »
    Not my problem. Dont be a scumbag and there wont be an issue

    That's exactly why you can throw out such comments. You dont have to deal with it, so dont want to think about it.


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    #203
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    That's exactly why you can throw out such comments. You dont have to deal with it, so dont want to think about it.

    We're funding the lifestyle choices so yeah we should have a say .
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    #204
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    That's exactly why you can throw out such comments. You dont have to deal with it, so dont want to think about it.

    Dont have to deal with what exactly. The aftermath of handing out fines to those on welfare?

    I do and have thought of it. Ive also thought of all the money both public and privately raised money put into facilities to try and curb such anti social behaviour. The time and effort communities have given only for it to be eventually wrecked by those with that mindset.

    The softly approach doesnt always work. Alot has been tried and alot has failed. My suggestion albeit harsh may be something that would work on certain individuals or families.

    No one likes losing out on money


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    #205
    GreeBo
    Registered Users Posts: 27,123 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    Financial penalties as in deduction or suspension of any welfare. Also if housed by local authorities they should also hit them with an anti social behaviour penalty.

    None of the above can be rescinded or paid by cribbing to community welfare officers or local TDs.

    Repeat offenders have payments stopped in lieu of community work.

    You'd have more impact by forcing a reduction in the channels they get via their satellite dishes tbh.


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    #206
    Always Tired
    Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Always Tired


    Calhoun wrote: »
    I suppose the fear of that is though you push them further into crime if you cut off assistance. I don't know if you saw the town in the UK where they tried this, it featured on one of those welfare programs and crime really increased.

    No point trying to tell that to the 'lock them up and throw away the key' brigade, they are great at making up punishments in their head that they wouldn't have to actually implement or be responsible for the outcomes of. Most minor crimes already come with a financial penalty in the form of fines anyway.


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    #207
    RacoonQueen
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,364 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Forgive me here but why would someone be searching the internet for a receipt for a scrambler similar to the one in the clip?

    It was hardly to cover up the fact that it was a stolen scrambler, was it?

    *reseat


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    #208
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Always Tired wrote: »
    Most minor crimes already come with a financial penalty in the form of fines anyway.

    They do the crime and our tax pays their fines
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    #209
    the_syco
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    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    I don’t want to derail the hate but with all these kids into bikes would it be outrageous to suggest the council build a few tracks around the city to let them burn off a bit of energy
    Said bikes use petrol, so don't see how tracks will benefit anyone.
    10pennymixup wrote: »
    If only the mother had been sprayed splayed 20 years ago, none of this would have happened,
    If the church hadn't banned condoms, the entire estate may not be populated...
    Dravokivich wrote: »
    That'll just affect other dependants who may be innocent to the offence in question. It's all well and good throwing out fines or insisting on deductions when it has no impact on yourself.
    It will affect the other dependants who may be innocent, but at the same time, the family don't seem to see it as their job to control the child.
    Calhoun wrote: »
    I suppose the fear of that is though you push them further into crime if you cut off assistance. I don't know if you saw the town in the UK where they tried this, it featured on one of those welfare programs and crime really increased.
    Not really surprised. But giving them money without having to respect anyone is not working.
    Calhoun wrote: »
    I think we might need a system which has both a carrot and stick in it, right now it just seems like allot of carrot and no stick.
    Over the Halloween, the emergency services were attacked with rocks. I say we skip the stick, and move onto beanbag rounds.


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    #210
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Gatling wrote: »
    We're funding the lifestyle choices so yeah we should have a say .

    Any punishment, should fit the means of those receiving it. I've grown up and still live surrounded by the people you are dismissing here and the only ones that'll be impacted at the end of the day are the kids. Another ripple of **** with the next generation.


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    #211
    degsie
    Registered Users Posts: 8,746 ✭✭✭degsie


    Can a cop just walk up to somebody and simply state "you are under arrest" without stating what crime was committed? He didn't even state that he was a garda and could be a peado in a clown suit looking for his next victim!


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