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Virtual Reality General Discussion / Chat Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    I see very little to no new quest games coming out, the library seems very sparse and no loads on the horizon. Am i missing something or is this a concern. Oculus link not an option as I have no PC that could power it

    Oculus are picky about what games are getting on the system, which in a way is a good thing as Steam VR is piled high with shovelware, but also means it's harder for small-scale devs to get accepted (which is what Sidequest is for).

    I think the library is gradually getting larger, but obviously it's a gradual process, though saying that you can get all the Go library games now, some of which are great like Daedalus.

    I actually got 10 new Quest games this week as a result of the "free Quest games if you own them on Go" thing.. so my library is filling up fast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Interesting video on how VR can improve your own performance
    in games.



    Part 2:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez





    GTA V new mod out makes whole game playable in VR... looks like it was a good idea for me to hold off on picking GTA V in the past and I get to enjoy it first time in VR :pac:


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    mrcheez wrote: »



    GTA V new mod out makes whole game playable in VR... looks like it was a good idea for me to hold off on picking GTA V in the past and I get to enjoy it first time in VR :pac:
    Afaik its only working on rift at the moment due to the way its built ..no vive compatibility yet
    GTA V is 15 quid on steam at the moment btw

    Oddly enough the last VR game I played recently was Downstream :Vr Whitewater rafting , which is great , anyway it has ghost players to race against(as in race against their performance , and that youtuber was one of the random ones I got.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Dr Bob wrote: »
    Afaik its only working on rift at the moment due to the way its built ..no vive compatibility yet
    GTA V is 15 quid on steam at the moment btw

    Oddly enough the last VR game I played recently was Downstream :Vr Whitewater rafting , which is great , anyway it has ghost players to race against(as in race against their performance , and that youtuber was one of the random ones I got.
    didn't get s chance to play GTA V yet in VR but got the online deluxe cer for 11 quid from cd keys

    Must check out whitewater rafting!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Nice... I mainly watch Virtual Reality Oasis, but will check him oot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Pistol Whip is out. I'm seriously considering getting this pronto!

    I'm not too interested in the other beat rhythm games (I already have Beat Saber), but this is like Time Crisis meets Beat Saber.

    Even IGN gave it a glowing review: https://ie.ign.com/articles/2019/11/08/pistol-whip-review


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Quite possibly the worst kept secret about VR




    https://twitter.com/valvesoftware/status/1196566870360387584?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    New Jeff Minter VR game

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1342740/Moose_Life/

    Only €5.69 too... count me in


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,630 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    mrcheez wrote: »
    New Jeff Minter VR game

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1342740/Moose_Life/

    Only €5.69 too... count me in

    I'm going to have to wait for MooseLife to make it to PSVR, but it looks like it will be a while, Sony seem to take forever with their approval process.
    Sadly, my crummy PC won't run MooseLife, but I've bought it nevertheless, for the day when I have one that will, I'll always support Minter and his work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    From October 2020 onward, all new Oculus users will need to sign up via Facebook.

    And from 2023 all existing Oculus accounts will be wiped and you'll need to sign in via Facebook.

    https://uploadvr.com/oculus-facebook-account-required

    Holy sh1tballs Batman!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,728 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    mrcheez wrote: »
    From October 2020 onward, all new Oculus users will need to sign up via Facebook.

    And from 2023 all existing Oculus accounts will be wiped and you'll need to sign in via Facebook.

    https://uploadvr.com/oculus-facebook-account-required

    Holy sh1tballs Batman!

    I think we all knew this was coming, dispite the promises. Think it's a very bad decision.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    I think we all knew this was coming, dispite the promises. Think it's a very bad decision.

    I mean if I create a Facebook account, but only use it for logging into Oculus, it won't be too bad, but apparently they will ban accounts that aren't "social"???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭EoinHef


    Is there any further detail on what "social" means?


    Tbh thats probably removed any chance id buy Oculus hardware again.


    Thankfully now there are more options


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    I'd say all will become clear as it gets closer to OC7


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    mrcheez wrote: »
    I mean if I create a Facebook account, but only use it for logging into Oculus, it won't be too bad, but apparently they will ban accounts that aren't "social"???

    Apart from the ads from the US Republican party overlaying the games every 3 minutes you mean? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Apart from the ads from the US Republican party overlaying the games every 3 minutes you mean? :pac:

    As long as they don't obscure more than 95% of the screen inducing seizure I'm all for it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    Ah I think I linked my account to FB whenever I registered originally (I'm just a fan of the single-sign-on and laziness to be fair) - honestly you wouldn't even notice. Feck it, most of these companies know what i'm up to these days, Amazon, Google, Whatsapp, it's all the same at the end of the day!

    OC7 will be interesting...would be interested to see where they go with any new devices. What could a Quest 2 bring to the table?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Shlippery wrote: »
    What could a Quest 2 bring to the table?

    They've renamed OC7 to Facebook Connect, so this means that Facebook is going to treat VR as a core platform for all Facebook users.

    Which is very good for VR, though it does mean that social integration will be embedded into the Quest 2's build.

    So possibly something like facial expression tracking, and hand tracking will be core I would say.



    The issue I'd have with the Facebook requirement is that they require you use your REAL identity when creating Facebook accounts now. I don't personally have a social media account (beyond Whatsapp) and deleted my Facebook account (which was under a fake name anyway) about 6 years ago. I'm careful about what I put on the internet for all to see under my real name, which is a good thing especially going forward as identity theft/abuse becomes more common.

    I'd be OK creating an account in my business name though, as long as that's permitted, as only a select few would know what my business name is and I'd still be anonymous.

    Yes it sounds a bit tin-foil hat alright, but maintaining control over your identity will become crucial in the future.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't like it but at the same time, I think mine is already linked. You'd never know anyways. If I think about my ex and her friends falling in love with Best Saber, and her friend buying a Quest for it, I can see why Facebook is thinking this won't be a big deal. Casual users who post on Facebook all the time anyways won't care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    On a separate note... Apple are apparently working on a VR/AR headset due for release in 2022.

    First I've heard of it!

    https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/19/21296674/apple-vr-ar-headset-glasses-external-hub-jony-ive-bloomberg-go-read-this


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    Oculus are miles ahead of everyone else. The FB accusation was both a blessing and a curse, the good was obviously the huge injection of cash that brought us the Quest, and whatever the Quest 2 will bring to the table, but the bad is that it’s now in the hands of an incredibly intrusive corporation who will prioritise gathering data over advancing VR technology


  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭saneman


    When I purchased the rift CV1 it was based on the tech itself, the cost, and the touch controllers had just launched. Facebook ownership was a con but not a major issue really.

    In the time since it's become clear that Oculus/FB are focussed on a closed VR ecosystem e.g. their tracking system is closed to third party use, the likes of the Revive mod is only tolerated (after they actively attempted to block it from working initially), and of course exclusives. I'm just not a fan of that direction although I appreciate their interest is in more than gaming.

    The Rift is still a decent bit of kit but if/when i upgrade I imagine it'll be to something like the Index, mainly because Valve have a more open attitude to VR as a whole. Most of the titles I've purchased have been through Steam and that's explicitly down to how well Valve have developed/maintained official integration with the Oculus platform. And Alyx is a perfect example of how they openly support other platforms/headsets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    The HP Reverb G2 looks like the next one I might pick up... but my laptop isn't powerful enough for it so I might need an upgrade there too!


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    VR will hit mainstream if there's an Apple logo on it. People will buy it for the sake of it. But they'll have the most walled of walled gardens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    I had thought never to buy another Oculus app, but damn this does look tempting



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    Yep. Looks class.
    I need to get my virtual desktop set up ASAP.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    kerplun k wrote: »
    Yep. Looks class.
    I need to my virtual desktop set up ASAP.

    Have you not played Alyx???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez




    and another one to watch out for... I swear my backlog is screaming at me already


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Have you not played Alyx???

    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez




    Stride looks like something rather special... Mirrors Edge in VR and only around €16 on Steam.

    Very very interested... anyone tried it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Doge


    Mods can we have a Virtual Reality For Sale thread?

    I'm just going to leave this here in the meantime, feel free to move it to an appropriate thread.

    Selling my Oculus Rift CV1 Virtual Reality Headset.

    https://www.adverts.ie/other-peripherals/oculus-rift-cv1-virtual-reality-headset-boxed-new-facial-interface/21649333

    Adverts Tax Applied and willing to do a deals with boardies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Interesting, hadn't really considered selling my Rift, but to be honest I haven't touched it in ages so perhaps time to sell. And id just gone and setup a 3rd sensor around the time I picked up my Quest, but think I used the sensor two times before going all in with wireless PCVR.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    What do people think of buying a Quest 1 as a start. Bought a Go on adverts last week (just to try VR out) and I haven't put the thing down.
    Im thinking of a quest one because I reckon they`ll go down to sub 200.00 when the Quest 2 is released and I have the Go sold for 100.00--will only cost me 100 to get an original Quest then.

    Or should I just bite the bullet and go for the 2?

    Decisions, decisions!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    What do people think of buying a Quest 1 as a start. Bought a Go on adverts last week (just to try VR out) and I haven't put the thing down.
    Im thinking of a quest one because I reckon they`ll go down to sub 200.00 when the Quest 2 is released and I have the Go sold for 100.00--will only cost me 100 to get an original Quest then.

    Or should I just bite the bullet and go for the 2?

    Decisions, decisions!!!

    I'd say go for 2. It really is a huge upgrade visually and you'll only be constantly planning the next upgrade if you go for the 1.

    Makes more economic sense to spend a little more now for greater rewards and long-term support.

    Remember support of Quest 1 ends in 2 years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭monster1


    Just got a mail saying I can purchase the valve index... Just wondering is it worth the money?? Would the reverb g2 be as good? I'd probably be waiting even longer for the g2 though... Impatient


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    monster1 wrote: »
    Just got a mail saying I can purchase the valve index... Just wondering is it worth the money?? Would the reverb g2 be as good? I'd probably be waiting even longer for the g2 though... Impatient

    I'd say wait for the Reverb G2.

    If I wasn't going for a Quest 2, the Reverb G2 would be my next purchase, it does look incredible compared to all other headsets.

    Make sure you have the spec to run it though as I think the GPU requirements are quite high.


  • Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭monster1


    mrcheez wrote: »
    I'd say wait for the Reverb G2.

    If I wasn't going for a Quest 2, the Reverb G2 would be my next purchase, it does look incredible compared to all other headsets.

    Make sure you have the spec to run it though as I think the GPU requirements are quite high.
    Have a Ryzen 9 3950X and auros rgb rtx 2080 super, 32gb ram.
    Will prob upgrade to a 3080 or see what AMD have to offer. The 2080 should do OK? Definitely wouldn't get my hands on the g2 until December?? Craving VR a long time. And iv only ever used the first Samsung phone vr thing.

    The reverb g2 will definitely be better than the index? Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    monster1 wrote: »
    The reverb g2 will definitely be better than the index? Cheers

    Yup!

    gmjtrgd0eyp51.png


  • Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭monster1


    Where can you pre order from? All I found was a German site bestware.com


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    mrcheez wrote: »


    and another one to watch out for... I swear my backlog is screaming at me already
    Since this is supposed to have crossplay between everything ,
    If you're looking to pick this up cheaper , the epic store have a deal on at the moment that if you download the (free) rocket league game , you get a 10 euro voucher off anything over 15 . some caveats though
    You cant use it to preorder (in case you wanted to), so
    Epic store VR works fine ,it basically uses SteamVR to run games in VR, but
    theres the possibility that being an EA game it'll want to open Origin and log you in , so that would mean Epic Launcher +Steam+Origin at the same time
    Also steam still seems to be the ecosystem for VR games on PC , so there's always the possibility that updates make break crossplay at times


    https://www.engadget.com/rocket-league-epic-games-store-10-dollar-voucher-091516242.html?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Virtual Desktop doesn't work with Epic VR games which is a deal breaker for me unfortunately, as I'd want to play this wirelessly.

    It used to, but then stopped after an update.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Irishder


    I have a rift S for sale if anyone is interested:

    https://www.adverts.ie/other-computers/oculus-rift-s-vr/21663780


  • Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭monster1


    monster1 wrote: »
    Where can you pre order from? All I found was a German site bestware.com

    Anyone? Or is anyone bothering to pre order. Tempted to pull trigger on the index


  • Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭monster1


    Irishder wrote: »
    I have a rift S for sale if anyone is interested:

    https://www.adverts.ie/other-computers/oculus-rift-s-vr/21663780

    Or even this to tied me over until the reverb g2 is out. Is the rift s decent?.? Tbh iv only ever tried the Samsung gear with an s7.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rift S is great imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,864 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Star Wars Squadrons looks epic! Might just have to buy a HOTAS and chair for my hot ass



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Star Wars Squadrons looks epic! Might just have to buy a HOTAS and chair for my hot ass


    Will be giving that a go at midnight!

    Quest + Link + Logitech Xtreme 3d pro, not quite as glamorous!


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