Judgement day for Maria Bailey.

Rows Grower · 31-10-2019 10:33am #1

She might be going away you know, (from running as an election candidate.)

https://www.herald.ie/news/judgment-day-for-political-future-of-swinggate-td-bailey-38647550.html

Cork Trucker · 31-10-2019 10:36am

Will this be the intro to the meeting?

Plumbthedepths · 31-10-2019 10:40am

Hope she is strapped into her seat for the result.

Rows Grower · 31-10-2019 10:45am

Could be this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lua0kmJ2I_Q

McMurphy · 31-10-2019 10:46am

I hope Josepha Madigans not holding the sword of Damocles.

jpfahy · 31-10-2019 10:48am

Will humanity be crossed???

padd b1975 · 31-10-2019 11:38am

Relax folks.

She'll just run as an independent "gene pool FG' candidate if things don't go her way on this.

Plumbthedepths · 31-10-2019 11:42am

padd b1975 wrote: »

Relax folks.

She'll just run as an independent "gene pool FG' candidate if things don't go her way on this.

Outside of FG she is unelectable.

pablo128 · 31-10-2019 11:44am

She could apply for a job as a swing supervisor.

McMurphy · 31-10-2019 11:49am

padd b1975 wrote: »

Relax folks.

She'll just run as an independent "gene pool FG' candidate if things don't go her way on this.

She'll be the swinging vote candidate for DL, yeah?

padd b1975 · 31-10-2019 12:13pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Outside of FG she is unelectable.

I wouldn't be so sure.

History has shown that the Irish voter has a very short memory.

tigger123 · 31-10-2019 12:17pm

You'd want to be knee deep in community work and projects in order to survive this and get re-elected as an independent.Tony Gregory, Willie O'Dea et al.

Not saying she isn't, just saying. She would nearly want to be running against FG.

McMurphy · 31-10-2019 12:17pm

padd b1975 wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure.

History has shown that the Irish voter has a very short memory.

Thankfully in this case they'll have insurance premium renewals to keep their memories nice and fresh.

jammiedodgers · 31-10-2019 12:45pm

Tabnabs · 31-10-2019 12:48pm

tigger123 wrote: »

You'd want to be knee deep in community work and projects in order to survive this and get re-elected as an independent.Tony Gregory, Willie O'Dea et al.

Not saying she isn't, just saying. She would nearly want to be running against FG.

16th January 2019
Billboards won’t build houses; evidence based realistic policy will - Bailey

21st August 2018
Increase in housing supply is key to solving our housing crisis - Bailey

20th July 2018
Does Sinn Féin understand the complexity of housing? - Bailey

https://www.finegael.ie/our-people/tds/dublin/dun-laoghaire/maria-bailey/

In fairness, she has her finger on the pulse of community issues does Maria. :pac:

She sticks her ahead above the parapet and the response is overwhelming.

https://twitter.com/MariaBaileyFG/status/1185957542213672966

Cork Trucker · 31-10-2019 1:10pm

She may also wish to sing this while strapped to aforementioned chair

James Brown · 31-10-2019 1:36pm

Leo sez he'll take their vote into consideration. Likely as much as the FG HQ took the vote to elect Coveney as leader.

suicide_circus · 31-10-2019 2:54pm

Will the Dun Laoghaire branch have the cojones to do in private what Leo didnt have the cojones to do in public?

McMurphy · 31-10-2019 3:16pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Leo sez he'll take their vote into consideration. Likely as much as the FG HQ took the vote to elect Coveney as leader.

Just heard on the 2pm news on NT that Leo several ministers are refusing to back Maria, not sure who the ministers were, but they had a clip of Richard Briton throwing his hat into the ring.

Can't get my head around it or their motives, didn't they come out swinging (no pun intended) for Maria in the wake of the report that most definitely exonerated her in every way it could?

They're now prepared to scuttle a TD, that their own internal report found did nothing wrong? Ever get the feeling that this report that Leo decided should not be revealed to the plebs didn't say what leo told the plebs it said?

Alan Farrell must be touching cloth tbh.

_Kaiser_ · 31-10-2019 3:52pm

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Just heard on the 2pm news on NT that Leo several ministers are refusing to back Maria, not sure who the ministers were, but they had a clip of Richard Briton throwing his hat into the ring.

Can't get my head around it or their motives, didn't they come out swinging (no pun intended) for Maria in the wake of the report that most definitely exonerated her in every way it could?

They're now prepared to scuttle a TD, that their own internal report found did nothing wrong? Ever get the feeling that this report that Leo decided should not be revealed to the plebs didn't say what leo told the plebs it said?

Alan Farrell must be touching cloth tbh.

Of course it didn't JD, otherwise Leo would have had it out to the press that night and hitting every morning radio show with the extracts/commentary.

Leo, far more than his predecessor, is very conscious of media perception and "messaging" to the aforementioned plebs. First and foremost regarding his own profile, but he knows the cat was out of the bag on this one, and there's also Maria' implication that if she goes down, others are going down too from her infamous SOR interview to factor in.

Venom · 31-10-2019 4:03pm

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Just heard on the 2pm news on NT that Leo several ministers are refusing to back Maria, not sure who the ministers were, but they had a clip of Richard Briton throwing his hat into the ring.

Irish Examiner lists the non backers as Leo, Simon Harris, Eoghan Murphy, Richard Bruton and Josepha Madigan.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/cabinet-ministers-fail-to-support-maria-bailey-ahead-of-crunch-meeting-960893.html

McMurphy · 31-10-2019 4:49pm

Venom wrote: »

Irish Examiner lists the non backers as Leo, Simon Harris, Eoghan Murphy, Richard Bruton and Josepha Madigan.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/cabinet-ministers-fail-to-support-maria-bailey-ahead-of-crunch-meeting-960893.html

**Looney Tunes voice** Wait a goddam cotton-picking minute here.....

So, Madigan gave Maria Bailey initial legal advice to initiate a case against the Dublin business, helped her fill in the application to the PIAB, (and I wonder if she had any involvement in demanding the initial 20k from the hotel), and now she's joining forces with others in refusing to back her?

Surely Bailey took the legal advice at face value, and did what she was advised to do based on same? I know if I go to my doctor and if he prescribes something, I don't go off on my merry way asking the pharmacist to give me something else.

What a bunch of sleveens, I'm almost at a point where I'm rooting for Maria now, this could get interesting and messy.

Popcorn required post haste.

James Brown · 31-10-2019 4:55pm

Likely Maria dropped Josepha in it in the internal report so they are no longer pals and Josepha is gambling Maria won't make things worse for everyone by going public.
Might leak out mind

suicide_circus · 31-10-2019 5:09pm

Hopefully Maria throws a few grenades

JP Liz V1 · 31-10-2019 6:01pm

Dancing with the Stars is calling for her

James Brown · 31-10-2019 6:05pm

I think Maria will never have to work a day in her life. She'll be sorted by the law and order party.

Plumbthedepths · 31-10-2019 6:10pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Dancing with the Stars is calling for her

Ah stop RTE is already strapped for cash, the insurance premium to have Bailey on would close it...hope she goes on. ;-)

Cork Trucker · 31-10-2019 6:18pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Dancing with the Stars is calling for her

Maria and Marty Morrissey?

Cork Trucker · 31-10-2019 6:46pm

I'm out of puns after this one

Cork Trucker · 31-10-2019 8:44pm

When a motion of no confidence was tabled locally in recent weeks, Bailey made an impassioned defence of her position.

She referred to the death of her father, John Bailey, re-elected as a Fine Gael councillor in May before he died in July and the personal toll of the fallout from the controversy over the claim.

Bailey said she hadn't been given the opportunity to properly mourn his loss because it had been non-stop.

A similar appeal tonight will be hard to ignore.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/its-a-halloween-witchhunt-sympathy-vote-swings-to-maria-bailey-in-a-heave-with-twists-in-the-tale-38649957.html

givyjoe · 31-10-2019 9:18pm

Cork Trucker wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/its-a-halloween-witchhunt-sympathy-vote-swings-to-maria-bailey-in-a-heave-with-twists-in-the-tale-38649957.html

Utterly pathetic.

jmreire · 31-10-2019 9:29pm

givyjoe wrote: »

Utterly pathetic.

+ 100% !!! Really scraping the bottom of the barrel now..sympathy vote. What has the private and personal life of a TD got to do with their professional life??? We all have personal tragedy's / problem's etc. But that's what they are "Personal". A few days mourning, then back to work, and life returns to normal for ordinary working people who have to make a living. Sure they will remember anniversaries ect. but the life goes on.

Odyssey 2005 · 31-10-2019 9:38pm

Wonder will Humanity be crossed again tonight

Plumbthedepths · 31-10-2019 9:45pm

Off to the high court if Bailey gets the heave ho I suspect. Perry from Sligo only cost the party 500k when he took the party on, to let him run.

mikemac2 · 31-10-2019 9:55pm

She was there to explain the offside rule to the GAA officials

Tabnabs wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MariaBaileyFG/status/1185957542213672966

seligehgit · 31-10-2019 10:07pm

Result likely to be known before the end of the nine o clock news.

ChikiChiki · 31-10-2019 10:11pm

Think she has survived the ballot...

seligehgit · 31-10-2019 10:13pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Think she has survived the ballot...

If that's correct I'm truly in shock.

Plumbthedepths · 31-10-2019 10:13pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Think she has survived the ballot...

Probably better to have her on the ballot paper, does FG quite a lot of harm that way.

ChikiChiki · 31-10-2019 10:15pm

seligehgit wrote: »

If that's correct I'm truly in shock.

As am I, the word is there was a lot of support.

I'm sitting here wondering, what precedent this further sets for our officials holding public office.

It's a very bad vote for the country if true.

I'm really starting to thing we are a greedy country. National politics seem to mean **** all.

sydthebeat · 31-10-2019 10:18pm

If that's the case, this will reflect EXTREMELY badly on FG... the party of greedy insurance scammers

Professor Genius · 31-10-2019 10:27pm

Blow for Maria Bailey as Fine Gael members in Dun Laoghaire back a motion calling on party HQ to review the general election ticket in her constituency

sydthebeat · 31-10-2019 10:28pm

Bye bye Maria.... You crossed humanity!!

seligehgit · 31-10-2019 10:28pm

Review of the party ticket!

Back to party HQ.

Maria Bailey appears likely to be removed from the ticket.

Tin Foil Hat · 31-10-2019 10:32pm

seligehgit wrote: »

Review of the party ticket!

Back to party HQ.

Maria Bailey appears likely to be removed from the ticket.

Leo is just about stupid and stubborn enough to leave her on it.

McMurphy · 31-10-2019 10:36pm

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Leo is just about stupid and stubborn worried enough to leave her on it.

No telling what stories Maria might blurt out if cut loose, she knows where the bodies are buried, from Madigans role in the claims saga, all the way back to her crooked Das dealings.

Friends close and enemies closer and all that rigmarole.

Itssoeasy · 31-10-2019 10:37pm

Right decision has been made. I mean after they Sean o rourke interview which was an utter train wreck how she didn’t do the right thing and not put her name forward(I’m not sure when the convention was so her name might have went forward prior to swing gate) but hopefully the top brass in FG take her off the ticket.

scotchy · 31-10-2019 10:37pm

Mixed feelings about this. I was hoping she would get the full distaste for her in a huge electoral defeat.

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ddarcy · 31-10-2019 10:41pm

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Leo is just about stupid and stubborn enough to leave her on it.

Will be interesting to see. I’d say she didn’t have the whip removed and expelled from the party because that report was fairly damning to the party as a whole. Add in the Perry legal precedence, I’d say she will still likely be on it. Keeping her happy is probably keeping it from being released to the public.

Not blaming Leo here but he is between the proverbial rock and a hard place. He will have to choose which option does the least damage.

Plumbthedepths · 31-10-2019 10:55pm

ddarcy wrote: »

Will be interesting to see. I’d say she didn’t have the whip removed and expelled from the party because that report was fairly damning to the party as a whole. Add in the Perry legal precedence, I’d say she will still likely be on it. Keeping her happy is probably keeping it from being released to the public.

Not blaming Leo here but he is between the proverbial rock and a hard place. He will have to choose which option does the least damage.

Rock and a hard place? He hadn't the balls to be decisive last May instead he commissioned a report hoping that would bury the matter.Reap what you sow. FG doing well to hold two seats in DLR with Bailey on the ticket they will be lucky to get one.

McMurphy · 31-10-2019 10:55pm

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Itssoeasy wrote: »

Right decision has been made. I mean after they Sean o rourke interview which was an utter train wreck how she didn’t do the right thing and not put her name forward(I’m not sure when the convention was so her name might have went forward prior to swing gate) but hopefully the top brass in FG take her off the ticket.

Leo and the lads are in a lose lose situation now regardless, if how this is being reported is correct, and the matter is being put back on the top echelons of the FG Party, then they will have to either sink a TD who, (according to them) an unreleased internally conducted investigation completely exonerated her from any wrongdoings, would look like extremely bad form, and hypocritical to get shot of her after that.

Do they look like hypocritical ****, who (in bad form) got rid of an exonerated woman,

Or do they leave a woman on the ticket who the nation view as an absolute charlatan who tried to fleece a local business because of her own stupidity, following the advise of her party colleague still sitting pretty in a ministerial position?

Well done leo, you played an absolute blinder, you absolute Muppet.:D

Had he of removed bailey almost six months ago when he should have, the worst of this would have blown over by now.

D - from me Leo, must try harder.

Judgement day for Maria Bailey.

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