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Fire in Douglas - See Mod note in post #506

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  • #662
    Dbu
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    beer enigma wrote: »
    Anyone heard if the 1 hour free parking will remain on the cinema site after they close today ?

    Doubtful, and will be another blow to the businesses in the village.


  • #663
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/the-insurance-companies-are-fobbing-us-off--douglas-traders-waiting-for-pay-outs-956136.html



    Insurers aren’t playing ball surprise surprise :rolleyes:


  • #664
    Odelay
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    Cork Trucker wrote: »
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/the-insurance-companies-are-fobbing-us-off--douglas-traders-waiting-for-pay-outs-956136.html



    Insurers aren’t playing ball surprise surprise :rolleyes:

    In fairness it’s six weeks, this is a massive claim..


  • #665
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Odelay wrote: »
    In fairness it’s six weeks, this is a massive claim..

    It is, but nothing has happened since, not even the demolition.


  • #666
    banie01
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    TheChizler wrote: »
    I've heard second hand from one of the traders that they were blocked from moving into Douglas Court by the equivalent trader there, they're afraid of competition. Not confident how accurate that is so wont say what type of trader.

    Non compete clauses in retail centres are quite common.
    A pharmacist will try and ensure a lease clause stipulating only 1 dispensing chemist in a development and so on.


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  • #667
    Hibernicis
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    Cork Trucker wrote: »
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/the-insurance-companies-are-fobbing-us-off--douglas-traders-waiting-for-pay-outs-956136.html



    Insurers aren’t playing ball surprise surprise :rolleyes:

    What a truly dreadful article. Inaccurate, uninformed rubbish.

    BI usually stands for Business Interruption insurance, not "Business Insurance" which if it has any meaning at all would be a totally different thing. In order to pay out under a BI policy, the loss must be quantifiable. The guilty party here appears to be the centre's owners, whose actions differ enormously from their words. (i.e. demolition to start next week....). This is a critical point, as the date of reopening is crucial in quantifying the potential loss to the trader and thereby providing a basis for the calculation of an interim payout. Mention of "full and final compensation payouts" is complete nonsense at this point as these couldn't be calculated until the centre reopens and this just reiterates the sensationalist stupidity of the article. Any payment at this time will be interim.

    What is more worrying, and is probably uppermost in the insurer's minds, is the question over whether or not the centre will reopen. Crucially, if the answer to this is no, then the whole ball game changes. Until this question is answered unequivocally, the insurers are entirely correct be very prudent in respect of any payouts, interim or otherwise.


  • #668
    pwurple
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    ++ above. Absolutely, and the talk about shops relocating is a difficult decision for many of them to take as they are legally tied into long leases (10 yrs plus) in the center anyway.

    I wonder are they still being held to paying rent and rates for those units, and does that all fall into the various complicated insurance claims. Each shop may need to in turn claim off the center's insurance.


  • #669
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/traders-douglas-shopping-centre-cant-17088522
    Traders from Douglas Shopping Centre can't receive any insurance payouts until the owners confirm the length of time it will be shut.

    Bosses have previously said that they hope to re-open by summer 2020, but an exact date has never been confirmed.


  • #670
    airy fairy
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    Apparently the culprit car is being removed this week.
    I can't see the place being opened until end of 2020 at the earliest.


  • #671
    Douglas Eegit
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    airy fairy wrote: »
    Apparently the culprit car is being removed this week.
    I can't see the place being opened until end of 2020 at the earliest.

    Has the demolition started yet?


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  • #672
    airy fairy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭airy fairy


    Well from passing on the link, without rubbernecking, and only seeing as passenger... it looks stationary, no grills down, lights on in either end. Same old, same old.


  • #673
    Dbu
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    Douglas Eegit wrote: »
    Has the demolition started yet?

    No


  • #674
    TheChizler
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    The car that started the fire was hoisted out yesterday on some sort of platform. Word around Douglas was that they were remotely building a support system around it so it could be removed safely, and that's the cause of the delays.

    On a seperate note, the bank in Douglas East is suddenly up for sale, is that the same property portfolio as Douglas Village?


  • #675
    airy fairy
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    Is that the EBS bank?


  • #676
    TheChizler
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    airy fairy wrote: »
    Is that the EBS bank?
    Not sure. The building that Wetherspoons was supposed to be going in to.


  • #677
    Dbu
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    TheChizler wrote: »
    Not sure. The building that Wetherspoons was supposed to be going in to.

    BOI were there before. Yes owned by Mr Love as well:D


  • #678
    airy fairy
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    Dbu wrote: »
    BOI were there before. Yes owned by Mr Love as well:D

    Is it him or nama though...


  • #679
    beer enigma
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    Falveys reopened at lunchtime today


  • #680
    Chuck Noland
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    Wonder when the gym will open as it has its own entrance kinda similar to the pharmacy


  • #681
    Ludo
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    The gym is actually part of the centre though so I can't imagine it will open before centre opens. Falveys is external...essentially a different building which the centre was built around.


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  • #682
    Mardyke
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    Douglas Eegit wrote: »
    Has the demolition started yet?

    I passed through Douglas earlier....

    The place is an absolute mess...

    Cars all over the place... Bomb site.....

    Nah I'd say nothing has happened.....


  • #683
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Mardyke wrote: »
    I passed through Douglas earlier....

    The place is an absolute mess...

    Cars all over the place... Bomb site.....

    Nah I'd say nothing has happened.....

    Has construction of Aldi begun?


  • #684
    TheDriver
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    What's the story with the platform yoke sticking out of 1st floor over car park entrance??


  • #685
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    TheDriver wrote: »
    What's the story with the platform yoke sticking out of 1st floor over car park entrance??

    Is that not where the offending vehicle was removed from?


  • #686
    TheDriver
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    Cork Trucker wrote: »
    Is that not where the offending vehicle was removed from?

    Ahhh that makes sense.


  • #687
    TheChizler
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    Cork Trucker wrote: »
    Is that not where the offending vehicle was removed from?

    No they took it out the Tesco entrance side.


  • #688
    murphym7
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    Demolition works commenced yesterday. I was passing about 9:15 this morning and the traffic was backed up nearly as far back as Mahon point. People slowing down to look at what’s going on. I saw at least 3 near misses of rear endings, rain didn’t help either. I think the idea was floated here a few weeks ago that some type of barrier or sight shield needs to be put in place to stop this happening. We are in the Winter season now, they need to do something.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/demolition-of-douglas-shopping-centre-begins-three-months-after-fire-963513.html


  • #689
    Tom44
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    murphym7 wrote: »
    Demolition works commenced yesterday. I was passing about 9:15 this morning and the traffic was backed up nearly as far back as Mahon point. People slowing down to look at what’s going on. I saw at least 3 near misses of rear endings, rain didn’t help either. I think the idea was floated here a few weeks ago that some type of barrier or sight shield needs to be put in place to stop this happening. We are in the Winter season now, they need to do something.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/demolition-of-douglas-shopping-centre-begins-three-months-after-fire-963513.html

    Good idea


  • #690
    Chris_5339762
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    Five cars had managed to rear end each other on the flyover this evening. Wonder if someone was having a gawk?


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  • #691
    Gru
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    Chris_5339762 wrote: »
    Five cars had managed to rear end each other on the flyover this evening. Wonder if someone was having a gawk?

    It's almost guaranteed. **** those people gawping at it.


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