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Fire in Douglas - See Mod note in post #506

BurnsCarpenter

Anyone know what's going on? Looks close to m & s maybe.

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Odelay

Cork Trucker wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/the-insurance-companies-are-fobbing-us-off--douglas-traders-waiting-for-pay-outs-956136.html

Insurers aren’t playing ball surprise surprise :rolleyes:

In fairness it’s six weeks, this is a massive claim..

Cork Trucker

Odelay wrote: »

In fairness it’s six weeks, this is a massive claim..

It is, but nothing has happened since, not even the demolition.

banie01

TheChizler wrote: »

I've heard second hand from one of the traders that they were blocked from moving into Douglas Court by the equivalent trader there, they're afraid of competition. Not confident how accurate that is so wont say what type of trader.

Non compete clauses in retail centres are quite common.
A pharmacist will try and ensure a lease clause stipulating only 1 dispensing chemist in a development and so on.

Hibernicis

Cork Trucker wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/the-insurance-companies-are-fobbing-us-off--douglas-traders-waiting-for-pay-outs-956136.html

Insurers aren’t playing ball surprise surprise :rolleyes:

What a truly dreadful article. Inaccurate, uninformed rubbish.

BI usually stands for Business Interruption insurance, not "Business Insurance" which if it has any meaning at all would be a totally different thing. In order to pay out under a BI policy, the loss must be quantifiable. The guilty party here appears to be the centre's owners, whose actions differ enormously from their words. (i.e. demolition to start next week....). This is a critical point, as the date of reopening is crucial in quantifying the potential loss to the trader and thereby providing a basis for the calculation of an interim payout. Mention of "full and final compensation payouts" is complete nonsense at this point as these couldn't be calculated until the centre reopens and this just reiterates the sensationalist stupidity of the article. Any payment at this time will be interim.

What is more worrying, and is probably uppermost in the insurer's minds, is the question over whether or not the centre will reopen. Crucially, if the answer to this is no, then the whole ball game changes. Until this question is answered unequivocally, the insurers are entirely correct be very prudent in respect of any payouts, interim or otherwise.

pwurple

++ above. Absolutely, and the talk about shops relocating is a difficult decision for many of them to take as they are legally tied into long leases (10 yrs plus) in the center anyway.

I wonder are they still being held to paying rent and rates for those units, and does that all fall into the various complicated insurance claims. Each shop may need to in turn claim off the center's insurance.

Cork Trucker

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/traders-douglas-shopping-centre-cant-17088522

Traders from Douglas Shopping Centre can't receive any insurance payouts until the owners confirm the length of time it will be shut.

Bosses have previously said that they hope to re-open by summer 2020, but an exact date has never been confirmed.

airy fairy

Apparently the culprit car is being removed this week.
I can't see the place being opened until end of 2020 at the earliest.

Douglas Eegit

airy fairy wrote: »

Apparently the culprit car is being removed this week.
I can't see the place being opened until end of 2020 at the earliest.

Has the demolition started yet?

airy fairy

Well from passing on the link, without rubbernecking, and only seeing as passenger... it looks stationary, no grills down, lights on in either end. Same old, same old.

Dbu

Douglas Eegit wrote: »

Has the demolition started yet?

TheChizler

The car that started the fire was hoisted out yesterday on some sort of platform. Word around Douglas was that they were remotely building a support system around it so it could be removed safely, and that's the cause of the delays.

On a seperate note, the bank in Douglas East is suddenly up for sale, is that the same property portfolio as Douglas Village?

airy fairy

Is that the EBS bank?

TheChizler

airy fairy wrote: »

Is that the EBS bank?

Not sure. The building that Wetherspoons was supposed to be going in to.

Dbu

TheChizler wrote: »

Not sure. The building that Wetherspoons was supposed to be going in to.

BOI were there before. Yes owned by Mr Love as well:D

airy fairy

Dbu wrote: »

BOI were there before. Yes owned by Mr Love as well:D

Is it him or nama though...

beer enigma

Falveys reopened at lunchtime today

Chuck Noland

Wonder when the gym will open as it has its own entrance kinda similar to the pharmacy

Ludo

The gym is actually part of the centre though so I can't imagine it will open before centre opens. Falveys is external...essentially a different building which the centre was built around.

Mardyke

Douglas Eegit wrote: »

Has the demolition started yet?

I passed through Douglas earlier....

The place is an absolute mess...

Cars all over the place... Bomb site.....

Nah I'd say nothing has happened.....

Cork Trucker

Mardyke wrote: »

I passed through Douglas earlier....

The place is an absolute mess...

Cars all over the place... Bomb site.....

Nah I'd say nothing has happened.....

Has construction of Aldi begun?

TheDriver

What's the story with the platform yoke sticking out of 1st floor over car park entrance??

Cork Trucker

TheDriver wrote: »

What's the story with the platform yoke sticking out of 1st floor over car park entrance??

Is that not where the offending vehicle was removed from?

TheDriver

Cork Trucker wrote: »

Is that not where the offending vehicle was removed from?

Ahhh that makes sense.

TheChizler

Cork Trucker wrote: »

Is that not where the offending vehicle was removed from?

No they took it out the Tesco entrance side.

murphym7

Demolition works commenced yesterday. I was passing about 9:15 this morning and the traffic was backed up nearly as far back as Mahon point. People slowing down to look at what’s going on. I saw at least 3 near misses of rear endings, rain didn’t help either. I think the idea was floated here a few weeks ago that some type of barrier or sight shield needs to be put in place to stop this happening. We are in the Winter season now, they need to do something.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/demolition-of-douglas-shopping-centre-begins-three-months-after-fire-963513.html

Tom44

murphym7 wrote: »

Demolition works commenced yesterday. I was passing about 9:15 this morning and the traffic was backed up nearly as far back as Mahon point. People slowing down to look at what’s going on. I saw at least 3 near misses of rear endings, rain didn’t help either. I think the idea was floated here a few weeks ago that some type of barrier or sight shield needs to be put in place to stop this happening. We are in the Winter season now, they need to do something.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/demolition-of-douglas-shopping-centre-begins-three-months-after-fire-963513.html

Good idea

Chris_5339762

Five cars had managed to rear end each other on the flyover this evening. Wonder if someone was having a gawk?

Gru

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Five cars had managed to rear end each other on the flyover this evening. Wonder if someone was having a gawk?

It's almost guaranteed. **** those people gawping at it.

kub

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Five cars had managed to rear end each other on the flyover this evening. Wonder if someone was having a gawk?

If people are that interested in construction, perhaps they should get jobs in that sector rather than cause traffic accidents.

Heckler

Gru wrote: »

It's almost guaranteed. **** those people gawping at it.

Every day this week these clowns have been causing crawling tailbacks because of their rubbernecking. First couple of days I thought there were accidents but no. Get past the flyover and its plain sailing again. Throw a low sun into the mix with everyone jamming on and its a disaster. Doesn't help with people not realising that driving into the sun the car in front is practically invisible if they don't have their lights on. I watch the cams on www.dunkettle.ie before leaving work from Glanmire and sure as **** from 4 onwards the tailback starts.

As someone posted earlier they need to put up a barrier to block off that section from the dim witted gawpers.

Started going out through Tivoli. Just as fast.