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Maingau

  • 24-06-2019 2:48pm
    #1
    redcup342
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭


    Black_Knight wrote: »
    Tried my trip from Cork to my parents in the midlands. It says I can do it in 2:47, including a 2 minute charge at the Ionity chargers in Cashel. €8 for 2 minutes :rolleyes:

    Must tweak the consumption, because it also says from 100% i'd not need to stop at all (222km, arriving with 10% left) and my range has never shown more than 210km.
    The "next charger" option is nice though.

    Why are you paying per charge ? Just get an account with Maingau (They'll also send you an RFID Card for free but you can also just use the APP) and you'll only pay 40 cent per kilowatt with Ionity (25 cents + 15 cent for Ireland)

    https://www.maingau-energie.de/e-mobilit%C3%A4t/autostrom-tarif

    483474.PNG

    I only ever use the Ionity chargers to get me home or to a free charger anyways :D

    I don't know anyone that pays that crazy 8 euros / charge here in Germany or Abroad.


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  • #2
    krissovo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    redcup342 wrote: »
    Just get an account with Maingau

    https://www.maingau-energie.de/e-mobilit%C3%A4t/autostrom-tarif

    What you save in charging you would spend on Rosetta Stone German Language courses to understand the T&C's.;)


  • #3
    redcup342
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭redcup342


    krissovo wrote: »
    What you save in charging you would spend on Rosetta Stone German Language courses to understand the T&C's.;)

    It's pretty well known, I'm surprised you guys aren't using it, the Dutch/Belgian EV Groups and people in the UK copped on to it around a year ago since the DC Charging is a relative bargain for them.

    The Normal Customer price is valid for people that don't get their home power from Maingau

    483478.PNG

    You just download the app, enter your Debit card details and work from there.

    I can see that charger in Cashel anyways, it's the same operator as here has.to.be gmbh)

    483479.PNG

    483480.PNG

    The App is in English, so I don't have any issues

    Edit:

    Here's a direct link to the app for

    Android:
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.chargecloud.maingau&hl=en

    iOS:
    https://apps.apple.com/ie/app/einfachstromladen/id1295684159


  • #4
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,705 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    redcup342 wrote: »
    Just get an account with Maingau (They'll also send you an RFID Card for free but you can also just use the APP) and you'll only pay 40 cent per kilowatt with Ionity

    Might look into that once there are more Ionity stations open. For the moment, should anyone with Ioniq from Dublin area hit Cashel, their tank would be well empty, you'd need well over 20kWh, so Ionity fixed rate of €8 is cheaper :D

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  • #5
    redcup342
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭redcup342


    unkel wrote: »
    Might look into that once there are more Ionity stations open. For the moment, should anyone with Ioniq from Dublin area hit Cashel, their tank would be well empty, you'd need well over 20kWh, so Ionity fixed rate of €8 is cheaper :D

    For sure and that is indeed the case when I'm taking something with a larger battery but it's nice to have an option and the Maingau option is free to have, whereas if you don't have it you are stuck only with the 8 euro option.

    Sometimes I only want a 5-10 minute top up when the missus pops in for a pee.


  • #6
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,379 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    redcup342 wrote: »
    Why are you paying per charge ? Just get an account with Maingau (They'll also send you an RFID Card for free but you can also just use the APP) and you'll only pay 40 cent per kilowatt with Ionity (25 cents + 15 cent for Ireland)

    https://www.maingau-energie.de/e-mobilit%C3%A4t/autostrom-tarif

    483474.PNG

    I only ever use the Ionity chargers to get me home or to a free charger anyways :D

    I don't know anyone that pays that crazy 8 euros / charge here in Germany or Abroad.
    Never knew this existed! The free charger is right beside the ionity one, though i'm am curious to use the ionity ones some day. €8 was too much, pay by usage is grand though.


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  • #7
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,379 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    redcup342 wrote: »
    It's pretty well known, I'm surprised you guys aren't using it, the Dutch/Belgian EV Groups and people in the UK copped on to it around a year ago since the DC Charging is a relative bargain for them.

    The Normal Customer price is valid for people that don't get their home power from Maingau

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=483478&stc=1&d=1561386655

    You just download the app, enter your Debit card details and work from there.

    I can see that charger in Cashel anyways, it's the same operator as here has.to.be gmbh)

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=483479&stc=1&d=1561386936[/IMG]

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=483480&stc=1&d=1561386947[/IMG]

    The App is in English, so I don't have any issues

    Edit:

    Here's a direct link to the app for

    Android:
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.chargecloud.maingau&hl=en

    iOS:
    https://apps.apple.com/ie/app/einfachstromladen/id1295684159

    Debit card, or bank details? All I can see is a place to enter my IBAN and BIC. Nothing sketchy about that, Germans love using bank transfers rather than cards. Tis cheaper.


  • #8
    redcup342
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭redcup342


    Black_Knight wrote: »
    Debit card, or bank details? All I can see is a place to enter my IBAN and BIC. Nothing sketchy about that, Germans love using bank transfers rather than cards. Tis cheaper.

    Not 100% sure now, I'm pretty sure I used my Mastercard debit card. :)

    You are right though, IBAN is totally normal in Germany.

    My mate uses Maingau and he singed up with his Dutch IBAN, had some issues and he dropped them an email and they manually added it.

    I had no problems at all though :)


  • #9
    eddhorse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    Just a couple of questions on the Maingau card/app seeing as there is no sticky for all these.

    Is it the EinfachStromLaden app ??

    And do you register on the website https://anmeldung.einfachstromladen.de/ ??


  • #10
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,705 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Yes & yes

    The process of signing up and adding a payment method can be quite messy. But their technical support is decent to deal with.

    EinfachStromLaden means easy charging :D

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  • #11
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,212 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    unkel wrote: »
    Yes & yes

    The process of signing up and adding a payment method can be quite messy. But their technical support is decent to deal with.

    EinfachStromLaden means easy charging :D
    Einfachstromladen aber nicht einfachzahlungswahl!


    I tried setting up an account but couldnt get it to work.
    I will try again once my EV is delivered, I had the same problem with Easygo.


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  • #12
    charlieIRL
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Einfachstromladen aber nicht einfachzahlungswahl!


    I tried setting up an account but couldnt get it to work.
    I will try again once my EV is delivered, I had the same problem with Easygo.


    It takes a few times to get it set up. Postcode seems to be the problem. I tried and failed, left it for a while and tried again and it worked.


  • #13
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    This all sounds waaaaaaay too complicated, all this flapping around with cards and currency and foreign language, that would be near impossible for an elderly person to navigate versus pulling into any fuel station and filling up with petrol/diesel paying at the counter and leaving.


  • #14
    redcup342
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭redcup342


    slave1 wrote: »
    This all sounds waaaaaaay too complicated, all this flapping around with cards and currency and foreign language, that would be near impossible for an elderly person to navigate versus pulling into any fuel station and filling up with petrol/diesel paying at the counter and leaving.
    It's not complicated at all, it's just a bit more work if you want to save some money. 
    I could get away with using just one card but would end up paying more. 
    E.G. I stopped at an Ionity Charger and wanted to load 60-70kWh, Maingau doesn't make any sense so it's way cheaper to just pay the flat 8 euros. 

    You can get away with using one card like Plugsurfing, Chargemap, Chargenow, whichever but you will pay more money is all. 

    Just be thankful it's possible to shop around at the moment.


  • #15
    fricatus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    eddhorse wrote: »
    Just a couple of questions on the Maingau card/app seeing as there is no sticky for all these.

    Is it the EinfachStromLaden app ??

    And do you register on the website https://anmeldung.einfachstromladen.de/ ??
    unkel wrote: »
    Yes & yes

    The process of signing up and adding a payment method can be quite messy. But their technical support is decent to deal with.

    EinfachStromLaden means easy charging :D
    ELM327 wrote: »
    Einfachstromladen aber nicht einfachzahlungswahl!


    I tried setting up an account but couldnt get it to work.
    I will try again once my EV is delivered, I had the same problem with Easygo.


    I contacted Maingau about not being able to add a payment method, and they said they'd do it manually for me, so I sent them my bank details via email. It still doesn't appear in the app or on the website (I get "no payment method can be deposited for your account").

    What do you reckon from your experiences, will the card still work, and they sort out any billing issues at the end of the month, or will it just not work until I have a payment method listed?


  • #16
    unkel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,705 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    You need the payment method listed (or pay with PayPal)

    Get back onto their tech support

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  • #17
    charlieIRL
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    I still haven't been charged for mine yet!!!


  • #18
    jarrieta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭jarrieta


    fricatus wrote: »
    I contacted Maingau about not being able to add a payment method, and they said they'd do it manually for me, so I sent them my bank details via email. It still doesn't appear in the app or on the website (I get "no payment method can be deposited for your account").

    What do you reckon from your experiences, will the card still work, and they sort out any billing issues at the end of the month, or will it just not work until I have a payment method listed?

    I have the same issue, have contacted them 3 times, one to give them the IBAN and two after that to check what was going on, still nothing... This was requested over a month ago


  • #19
    pobber1
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭pobber1


    jarrieta wrote: »
    I have the same issue, have contacted them 3 times, one to give them the IBAN and two after that to check what was going on, still nothing... This was requested over a month ago

    Same experience here, they tell me they will add it but nothing showing in the app.


  • #20
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,058 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Mod Note: Centralising the Maingau discussion, as it pops up a lot lately


  • #21
    Black_Knight
    Moderators Posts: 12,379 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    charlieIRL wrote: »
    I still haven't been charged for mine yet!!!

    You'll be charged at the end of the month.


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  • #22
    jarrieta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭jarrieta


    liamog wrote: »
    Mod Note: Centralising the Maingau discussion, as it pops up a lot lately

    I was thinking that maybe a subforum with all the charging cards/providers might be useful. Thanks for splitting this!!


  • #23
    ewj1978
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭ewj1978


    Do they send out cards if you sign up to the app?
    If not how exactly does the app work with the Charger?


  • #24
    redcup342
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭redcup342


    ewj1978 wrote: »
    Do they send out cards if you sign up to the app?
    If not how exactly does the app work with the Charger?

    They'll send you a fob in the post a few days after you sign up.

    You can also use it straight away by choosing the charging in the app and beginning the charging session after you've plugged the cable into the car :)

    Or you can also scan the QR Code in the app to identify the charger :)


  • #25
    ewj1978
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭ewj1978


    Nice one.


  • #26
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,135 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    I had incredible problems fixing my address on the website, it was brualised in the usual German website way to the point where I doubt the fob ever reached me (I couldn't even change the country to Ireland).

    Managed to fix it in the app.

    Adding payment method was easy with the IBAN and BIC of my AIB account, though I guess I won't know if it works until they try to take payment. Is that it now? Do they do a test transaction?

    Also, is there any point ordering a fob if you have the app?


  • #27
    redcup342
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭redcup342


    Lumen wrote: »
    I had incredible problems fixing my address on the website, it was brualised in the usual German website way to the point where I doubt the fob ever reached me (I couldn't even change the country to Ireland).

    Managed to fix it in the app.

    Adding payment method was easy with the IBAN and BIC of my AIB account, though I guess I won't know if it works until they try to take payment. Is that it now? Do they do a test transaction?

    Also, is there any point ordering a fob if you have the app?

    Always good to have the Card/Fob as a backup. If the charger is offline for some reason it'll still start the charging session and then they'll update the session once it comes back online later.

    Also if your phone is having issues for example (No signal, App won't load, Dead battery)

    I've had to use a card countless times here on the continent.


  • #28
    EVGuy
    Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭EVGuy


    I've just tried to register and it's not accepting my post code, I tried an NI one and a German one and no dice.

    The box can't be left blank either.

    I have the same on the app or the web page.

    Did others see this when they signed up?

    Ta!


  • #29
    graememk
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    EVGuy wrote: »
    I've just tried to register and it's not accepting my post code, I tried an NI one and a German one and no dice.

    The box can't be left blank either.

    I have the same on the app or the web page.

    Did others see this when they signed up?

    Ta!

    It accepted my eircode y'day, although I read somewhere that you needed to put the space in it, maybe you have to do the same for the NI one


  • #30
    JohnC.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    It accepted my Eircode too. Weirdly, it seemed to want it in slightly different formats if I was registering by app or website. Can’t recall which was which, but one wanted xxx xxxx and the other xxxx xxx.


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  • #31
    MightyMunster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    JohnC. wrote: »
    It accepted my Eircode too. Weirdly, it seemed to want it in slightly different formats if I was registering by app or website. Can’t recall which was which, but one wanted xxx xxxx and the other xxxx xxx.

    Was xxx xxxx for me a few weeks ago. Card arrived in the post last week.


  • #32
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    maingau costs 34.11 c/Kwh + 9.74 c/min ? whats that all about ?

    The other tariff is for Maingau customers I take it ?


  • #33
    redcup342
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭redcup342


    Deleted User wrote: »
    maingau costs 34.11 c/Kwh + 9.74 c/min ? whats that all about ?

    The other tariff is for Maingau customers I take it ?

    It costs 34.11 c / kWh and 4.87 c / kWh = 38.98 c / kWh

    The 9.74 c / minute is a standing fee you start to pay after 240 minutes on AC or 60 minutes on DC.

    Other Tariff is indeed for Maingau customers who use them for their home energy


  • #34
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So If I were to pull 26 kwh , that would be around 11-93% in my i3 then that would work out around 8.86. Not much cheaper to be honest and after 26 Kwh you'd be better off paying the 8 Euro per charge or did Ionity rise the prices I can't remember.


  • #35
    JohnC.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    €8 is long gone. It’s 79c/kWh now. Basically double the Maingau price.


  • #36
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,212 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So If I were to pull 26 kwh , that would be around 11-93% in my i3 then that would work out around 8.86. Not much cheaper to be honest and after 26 Kwh you'd be better off paying the 8 Euro per charge or did Ionity rise the prices I can't remember.
    There is no more 8 per charge.
    Chargepoint were the last holdout on this and its now gone too.


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  • #37
    Sheep Shagger
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,542 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Lads, can't get it to accept my eircode even using the format xxx xxxx

    Country is Irland.

    Any tips?


  • #38
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,058 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Are you using the website or the app? It worked for me on the website but only when Google translate was off. I also entered all the characters in caps.


  • #39
    Krusty_Clown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,533 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Sheep Shagger wrote: »
    Lads, can't get it to accept my eircode even using the format xxx xxxx

    Country is Irland.

    Any tips?
    Use uppercase letters. I had to switch to uppercase, before it would accept mine (in the format XXX XXXX).


  • #40
    slave1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Got my Maingau card last week and looked in envelope today, what looks like free 20km or 20kW but can’t make head nor tails of how to claim it even after translating from German to English


  • #41
    redcup342
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭redcup342


    slave1 wrote: »
    Got my Maingau card last week and looked in envelope today, what looks like free 20km or 20kW but can’t make head nor tails of how to claim it even after translating from German to English

    Maybe post a picture of it ?


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  • #42
    ELM327
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,212 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    slave1 wrote: »
    Got my Maingau card last week and looked in envelope today, what looks like free 20km or 20kW but can’t make head nor tails of how to claim it even after translating from German to English
    I speak German and did not get anything free with the card :D


  • #43
    graememk
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    I got the same card


  • #44
    Sheep Shagger
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,542 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Krusty_Clown wrote: »
    Use uppercase letters. I had to switch to uppercase, before it would accept mine (in the format XXX XXXX).

    Thanks, tried upper and lower case - still won't accept.

    Country is listed as Irland - that's right isn't it?


  • #45
    Redlim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭Redlim


    slave1 wrote: »
    Got my Maingau card last week and looked in envelope today, what looks like free 20km or 20kW but can’t make head nor tails of how to claim it even after translating from German to English

    Just got this myself today. It's a rewards card where you earn "Kilometres" by shopping through "&Charge" with their various partners.

    Site says: One "Kilometer" is our currency for your mobility budget and has a value of 0,08€. Link your &Charge account with the account of your E-Mobility provider to redeem your Kilometers for your next charging session"

    So it looks like you get €1.60 free charging credit (€0.08*20km) if you sign up to "&Charge" and link it to your Maingau account.

    https://and-charge.com/#/howto


  • #46
    redcup342
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭redcup342


    Redlim wrote: »
    Just got this myself today. It's a rewards card where you earn "Kilometres" by shopping through "&Charge" with their various partners.

    Site says: One "Kilometer" is our currency for your mobility budget and has a value of 0,08€. Link your &Charge account with the account of your E-Mobility provider to redeem your Kilometers for your next charging session"

    So it looks like you get €1.60 free charging credit (€0.08*20km) if you sign up to "&Charge" and link it to your Maingau account.

    https://and-charge.com/#/howto

    Weird redemption program but ill take it


  • #47
    Efitz2019
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Efitz2019


    I set up an account today through the app. Added all my details and my card details. Is it as easy as that? I’m heading from Waterford to Carraroe Galway next Monday in a Hyundai Ioniq for a staycation. Will be handy to have the Ionity chargers as a back to the ecars network


  • #48
    Busman Paddy Lasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Efitz2019 wrote: »
    I set up an account today through the app. Added all my details and my card details. Is it as easy as that? I’m heading from Waterford to Carraroe Galway next Monday in a Hyundai Ioniq for a staycation. Will be handy to have the Ionity chargers as a back to the ecars network

    Worked for me at the weekend. Only difference was using sepa instead of card. Could start Ionity City North using the app, no rfid or QR scan.


  • #49
    Sheep Shagger
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,542 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Busman Paddy Lasty wrote: »
    Worked for me at the weekend. Only difference was using sepa instead of card. Could start Ionity City North using the app, no rfid or QR scan.

    Was your eircode accepted ok, won't take mine in D18...


  • #50
    Busman Paddy Lasty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Sheep Shagger wrote: »
    Was your eircode accepted ok, won't take mine in D18...

    Yep. Did the whole thing through the app. No hassle or errors. Used caps and XXX XXXX format for Eircode. Are there any blank spaces elsewhere in your address?


  • #51
    Neleven
    Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭Neleven


    Also signed up today, using the website to upload details (and a dictionary for the trickier questions on the form) and checked it out using the app at Ionity Gorey to make sure all was in order: it was😀. Thanks for all the info - good to have an alternative to Ecars.
    Does it work with any providers other than Ionity?


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