Formula 1 2019 - General Discussion Thread

AMKC · 12-10-2019 03:30PM

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Suzuka is getting away fairly lightly. Had some rain overnight and wind is currently just 20-25 knots, a breezy day here.

So the qualifying could have went ahead then?

Charlie-Bravo · 12-10-2019 03:36PM

It's more of a risk for people to travel to the circuit particularly if coming from Tokyo down to Suzuka. At the moment it's Tokyo itself getting hammered as the typhoon moves North East over the northern part of Japan.

It was a good call to put off the day's events. Should be a reasonable day tomorrow but would imagine risk of heavy rain.

Harika · 13-10-2019 06:32AM

Sauber close to confirm giovanazzi for next year. Everyone who thought they would draft Hulk in to give him one more year of not having a podium will be surprised of how loyal Ferrari is to their drivers.

AMKC · 13-10-2019 02:01PM

I have to say one good thing did come from the typhoon over in Japan. F1 got more media coverage this weekend than it has got in a long time even if it was just to say that the qualifying is cancelled and will be on the Sunday instead. I wonder did it make any difference to the Sky F1 channels viewing figures this morning do. I would say most people who have it unless totally hard core will watch it later either by having it recorded or by the showing Sky had at 09:30am this morning.

Rossi IRL · 13-10-2019 02:03PM

Renault could be in bother.

https://twitter.com/RenaultF1Team/status/1183335193039519744?s=19

https://twitter.com/wbuxtonofficial/status/1183341419077029888?s=19

GarIT · 13-10-2019 04:19PM

What does the alleged system do?

uchimata83 · 13-10-2019 04:37PM

Shifts brake bias automatically according to BBC

Joeface · 13-10-2019 04:39PM

Interesting , how come the complaint came via Racing point force India ?

Cork Trucker · 13-10-2019 06:28PM

The price :eek:

AMKC · 13-10-2019 08:15PM

Cork Trucker wrote: »

The price :eek:

That's not too bad when you think of it. That magazine is a monthly magazine after all and it seems to have some decent articles this month.It has been around that price for a while anyway. Now if that was the price of Autosport good luck and bye bye.

Cork Trucker · 13-10-2019 08:56PM

AMKC wrote: »

That's not too bad when you think of it. That magazine is a monthly magazine after all and it seems to have some decent articles this month.It has been around that price for a while anyway. Now if that was the price of Autosport good luck and bye bye.

When i first started buying it in 1999 it was £3 odd i think. Autosport never really tickled my fancy

AMKC · 13-10-2019 10:12PM

Cork Trucker wrote: »

When i first started buying it in 1999 it was £3 odd i think. Autosport never really tickled my fancy

Awe sure back then we were all poorer so it still for the time might have seemed like a lot for a magazine just not as much as now but that's inflation for you.

Cork Trucker · 13-10-2019 10:15PM

AMKC wrote: »

Awe sure back then we were all poorer so it still for the time might have seemed like a lot for a magazine just not as much as now but that's inflation for you.

I agree, i stopped buying it in 2005 when i was hitting the €5/6 mark.

AMKC · 16-10-2019 09:31PM

Cork Trucker wrote: »

The price :eek:

You should see the price of Autosport now. It is wait for it €16:39 cent :eek: That will be the end of that so. I can think of better ways to spent €16 on one thing. Seriously you want to be stone mad to pay that price for a cheap magazine as it does not feel anything like the price they want now. It even has inside it, coming in next weeks magazine lol. Good luck with that as I for one do not think there will be one out this Friday. I would be surprised if there was even 1 sold at that extortionate price. The F1 magazine as I said above actually looks like good value next to this. I understand it is bad but more than twice its previous price is just ridiculas. It was €5:95 before this.

elperello · 16-10-2019 09:39PM

A new venue for 2021?

Plans to run the Miami Grand Prix around the city's Hard Rock stadium have taken a step close to fruition with the confirmation of an agreement in principle between Formula 1 and the local promoter.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/miami-gp-hard-rock-agreement/4558673/

17-10-2019 01:19PM

Looks like the tyre blankets rule won't be in for 2021. Let's see how many more go.

vectra · 17-10-2019 04:45PM

Ferrari engine under scrutiny after rivals write to FIA!

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-engine-scrutiny-teams-fia/4559167/amp/?https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorsport.com%2Ff1%2Fnews%2Fferrari-engine-scrutiny-teams-fia%2F4559167%2F

recyclebin · 17-10-2019 05:42PM

In other words, no one has to balls to put in an official protest! Fair play to Force India for putting in one against Renault.

El_Duderino 09 · 17-10-2019 05:53PM

recyclebin wrote: »

In other words, no one has to balls to put in an official protest! Fair play to Force India for putting in one against Renault.

I don’t see where balls come into it. They’re asking if they can do it too. Which either means yes they can do it too or they can’t and Ferrari also can’t.

Seems like sensible question.

AMKC · 17-10-2019 06:54PM

I see Toro Rosso are seeking approval to be renamed Alpha Tauri for 2020.

pjohnson · 17-10-2019 07:41PM

AMKC wrote: »

I see Toro Rosso are seeking approval to be renamed Alpha Tauri for 2020.

Its been granted afaik

recyclebin · 17-10-2019 08:00PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I don’t see where balls come into it. They’re asking if they can do it too. Which either means yes they can do it too or they can’t and Ferrari also can’t.

Seems like sensible question.

They are either breaking the rules or they are not. It should be black and white in the rule books. Teams shouldn't have to be writing letters in this day and age.

If they are burning oil then they better have found a good loop hole in the rules.

El_Duderino 09 · 17-10-2019 08:27PM

recyclebin wrote: »

They are either breaking the rules or they are not. It should be black and white in the rule books. Teams shouldn't have to be writing letters in this day and age.

If they are burning oil then they better have found a good loop hole in the rules.

Yeah. The other teams are asking if they have found a good loophole in the rules. I think the teams have the legal stuff covered. No need for me or you to critique them on their legal phraseology.

Apart from anything, the way they have phrased the question actually answers the question about whether they can develop on this particular way. So it’s smart.

Cork Trucker · 17-10-2019 08:44PM

This reminds me of the Renault mass damper issue in 2006 i think it was, once off the car it affected them straight away, as for engines, different ball game.

H3llR4iser · 18-10-2019 02:32PM

The Ferrari engine protest is more than a bit silly - the difference IS staggering (I've mentioned this before - I hadn't seen such a delta since the V8s raced against V12s), but Ferrari's recent form has come on aero-sensitive tracks (while, ironically, they didn't utterly dominate in the power-only ones). If you take pole in Suzuka it's not just the engine, it means the chassis and aero are working through the lap.

They were on the backfoot in the race as they suffered tyre deg, but that's another Ferrari achille's heel.

Frank Bullitt · 18-10-2019 05:13PM

Cork Trucker wrote: »

This reminds me of the Renault mass damper issue in 2006 i think it was, once off the car it affected them straight away, as for engines, different ball game.

That thing was insane though. I remember seeing an onboard of the Ferrari going over the curbs and it wobbled so much, then an onboard of the Renault going over the GRAVEL and it shook less.

Frank Bullitt · 23-10-2019 08:42PM

https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/1187090943494803457

Uh oh

skipper_G · 23-10-2019 08:48PM

So the result becomes...
P5 Sainz
P6 Leclerc
P7 Gasly
P8 Perez
P9 Stroll
P10 Kvyat

recyclebin · 24-10-2019 10:10AM

Any onboard videos showing what the driver was doing and what was appearing on the steering wheel? It sounds like this is how Racing Point were able to prove the system existed.

I wonder how complicated it was or was it just a macro where you preselect a brake bias for every corner and just toggle through using a button on steering wheel for each corner.

billybonkers · 24-10-2019 10:16AM

recyclebin wrote: »

Any onboard videos showing what the driver was doing and what was appearing on the steering wheel? It sounds like this is how Racing Point were able to prove the system existed.

I wonder how complicated it was or was it just a macro where you preselect a brake bias for every corner and just toggle through using a button on steering wheel for each corner.

They were not able to prove it was a timed system, but it sounds like it would have been loaded into the cars software and was automatically changing the bias based on which corner was coming up, be it by GPS, time etc.

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