FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTICE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

LawBoy2018 · 30-09-2019 8:07pm

Jack McCoy wrote: »

O'Donnell J. in Whelan v AIB:

You legend!! Thanks a mill

FE!student · 30-09-2019 9:38pm

Does anyone know if you are still allowed hand in legislation on the morning of the exam? I notice on the letter that I received that they have to be in the day before, if doesn't say anything about dropping them in on the day. Two sittings ago I dropped legislation in on the morning and got it about half an hour into the exam but just wondering has this changed?

TheLawGuy · 30-09-2019 10:08pm

This is my first time sitting the exams and i have made a rookie error in forgetting to bring a watch with me for timing purposes. It is probably a stupid question but I presume there is Clocks in the room?

the baby bull elephant · 30-09-2019 10:09pm

TheLawGuy wrote: »

This is my first time sitting the exams and i have made a rookie error in forgetting to bring a watch with me for timing purposes. It is probably a stupid question but I presume there is Clocks in the room?

There's are clocks in the exam centre.

the baby bull elephant · 30-09-2019 10:09pm

TheLawGuy wrote: »

This is my first time sitting the exams and i have made a rookie error in forgetting to bring a watch with me for timing purposes. It is probably a stupid question but I presume there is Clocks in the room?

There are clocks in the exam centre.

Jack McCoy · 30-09-2019 10:10pm

FE!student wrote: »

Does anyone know if you are still allowed hand in legislation on the morning of the exam? I notice on the letter that I received that they have to be in the day before, if doesn't say anything about dropping them in on the day. Two sittings ago I dropped legislation in on the morning and got it about half an hour into the exam but just wondering has this changed?

I think that's always been on the letter. Can't imagine there'd be any issue handing them in on the morning.

TheLawGuy wrote: »

This is my first time sitting the exams and i have made a rookie error in forgetting to bring a watch with me for timing purposes. It is probably a stupid question but I presume there is Clocks in the room?

Yes, there's clock in the halls.

Breacnua · 30-09-2019 11:32pm

Property

If anyone is stuck; I have a succession act that i can leave in to be checked morning of exam with my own.

godfather2 · 30-09-2019 11:54pm

Just an fyi for anyone driving. Parking charges apply, 5 euro. Take ticket to reception for the discount rate. Just called to confirm with hotel reception. Didn't fancy getting clamped.

CiaraND16 · 01-10-2019 1:01am

What do we need to bring with us to the exam? Were we given an exam number that I should know? lastminute.com

Freckley201 · 01-10-2019 1:24am

You should have received a letter from the Law Society that would have your three digit Candidate Number on it that you will need to find your assigned seat.

You also need to bring ID (passport/drivers license) as they check this during the exam when you sign the attendance sheet.

Other than that, lots of pens and water

Daly29 · 01-10-2019 2:30am

TheLawGuy wrote: »

This is my first time sitting the exams and i have made a rookie error in forgetting to bring a watch with me for timing purposes. It is probably a stupid question but I presume there is Clocks in the room?

Were big clocks in each room I was in in March. I would be extremely surprised if it wasnt the same this time.

Sineaddh · 01-10-2019 8:44am

CRIMINAL

Help appreciated! ;(

What should I be focusing on?
I have notes made out since last sitting but have to cram them over the weeken and am panicking none of it will come back to me!

I have notes for elements and characteristics of a crime, murder/manslaughter, sexual offenses, non fatal offenses, theft and fraud offenses and defenses!

Am I leaving out anything crucial??

Please help!

Jimdtug1 · 01-10-2019 9:55am

@LawSociety

If there is a Red Storm warning issued for parts of Ireland on Thursday night/early Friday Morning will the Constitutional exam be postponed? Traveling from Galway, will be leaving home at about 5am. Trying to make alternative arrangements but not looking good at the moment.

vid36 · 01-10-2019 12:17pm

I am curious how Tort went, first time in 3.5 years ,I don't have any FE1s.

iamanengine · 01-10-2019 12:26pm

vid36 wrote: »

I am curious how Tort went, first time in 3.5 years ,I don't have any FE1s.

I found it tough, I was really stuck for time.

I had 2 good questions, 2 middling questions and 1 poor question

vid36 · 01-10-2019 12:32pm

The last paper was nasty but I scraped through. What topics came up?

iamanengine · 01-10-2019 12:39pm

vid36 wrote: »

The last paper was nasty but I scraped through. What topics came up?

What I think came up -

Q1 Occupiers
Q2 Standard of Care
Q3 Nuisance/Trespass to Land
Q4 Products...Possibly Employers?
Q5 Defamation
Q6 Fatal Injuries
Q7 Wasn't sure about this one. I think it's DOC of Good Samaritans or Trespass to Person
Q8 Objectives of Tort

Could be wrong for some of those so someone might correct me if I am!

user115 · 01-10-2019 12:49pm

I think occupiers, defamation (again!), product, nuisance, function of tort, what happens when tort person dies?! Whatever that is...

Wasn't really happy with it, very difficult, hope I passed though, so not expecting what came up. Dreading now incase company tomorrow is a total weird paper like today

LawGirl3434 · 01-10-2019 12:51pm

Anyone stressing about tort, I passed last sitting and having viewed my script he is a kind marker, gave marks even where I went off topic and stuff

illy.m · 01-10-2019 1:09pm

iamanengine wrote: »

What I think came up -

Q1 Occupiers
Q2 Standard of Care
Q3 Nuisance/Trespass to Land
Q4 Products...Possibly Employers?
Q5 Defamation
Q6 Fatal Injuries
Q7 Wasn't sure about this one. I think it's DOC of Good Samaritans or Trespass to Person
Q8 Objectives of Tort

Could be wrong for some of those so someone might correct me if I am!

Q8 - Objectives of tort? OMG anyone did that question?

I completely blanked out on product liability (having known it well and revised, and actually being able to recite all cases when leaving the exam hall. Just found it was a tough paper and panicked at the start. Did my 4 questions and started Q8 as my last one. I talked about pure economic loss and negligent misstatement (knew this really well), that its uncertain and blah blah kinda trying to relate it to the question (faceslap). Should have just waffled on the product liability question instead. Hope he is kind to me.

01-10-2019 1:11pm

2 questions answered well on Tort and didnt answer the other 3 in great detail, literally a page/2 pages for the remaining 3, starting to think ive a very slim chance of passing!

greenery2 · 01-10-2019 1:15pm

What did people think of Q.2? Do you think it was flexible - commenting on examples of varying SOCs? Or more of the standard - go through reasonable man, gravity etc.? Or open to interpretation? Bit worried.

spygirl · 01-10-2019 1:15pm

Found it tough enough but fair. I'll be going again in March, couldn't remember a single case and stupidly did the essay questions. Wasn't prepped enough, no nervous shock.:(

Jack McCoy · 01-10-2019 1:18pm

I found that product liability question to be exceptionally tricky. Was completely lost in it.

Saw the doctor question and skipped it. Presumed it was professional negligence again but trespass etc is a good shout. Is that four papers in a row for defamation!?

Re Q8, I waffled about Duty of Care. Figured it was worth a bash given the reference to the last 100 years and balancing individual cases with the wider context.

What did people think of Q.2? Do you think it was flexible - commenting on examples of varying SOCs? Or more of the standard - go through reasonable man, gravity etc.? Or open to interpretation? Bit worried.

I went through probability of the harm and all that. Forgot to mentioned that the standard could be varied in different instances. I think both are valid.

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I'm not hoping we get hit by a hurricane, but I could do with some extra time for Constitutional!

supercreative · 01-10-2019 1:36pm

LawGirl3434 wrote: »

Anyone stressing about tort, I passed last sitting and having viewed my script he is a kind marker, gave marks even where I went off topic and stuff

That's really interesting, from the examiners' reports you'd definitely get the impression that he's very hard on people!

GF612 · 01-10-2019 1:51pm

LawGirl3434 wrote: »

Anyone stressing about tort, I passed last sitting and having viewed my script he is a kind marker, gave marks even where I went off topic and stuff

I completely agree with this! While the papers are tough he does appear to be a fairly nice marker.

I passed Tort in the last sitting and was really sure that I had failed. I completely misinterpreted one question but he must've still given me marks for my application of the law despite it being tangental to the question asked.
It actually ended up being one of my best results so far despite the fact that it's the one I was definitely most worried about afterwards.

yournerd · 01-10-2019 2:29pm

Anyone have any March 2019 reports? t

Mr. Arkadin · 01-10-2019 2:51pm

20082014 wrote: »

2 questions answered well on Tort and didnt answer the other 3 in great detail, literally a page/2 pages for the remaining 3, starting to think ive a very slim chance of passing!

Sounds exactly like what produced last year and I still passed. Keep your head down and keep going.

holliek · 01-10-2019 3:23pm

Is anyone able to explain right of redemption to me in plain language? and also what are the important cases?

TIA

01-10-2019 3:29pm

COMPANY - SLP

Is it correct in saying that no agency was found in Fyffes but SEE was and Denham J reaffirmed that SEE could still be an exception if found in the exceptional circumstances - like what was said in Allied Irish Coal Suppliers?

Also, does anyone have the facts of Fyffes very briefly and simply that they could send in? I have in my notes to make sure to know the facts of this case but from my revision it just appears that you need to know what cases were discussed in Fyffes, not sure if the actual facts are as important?

iamanengine · 01-10-2019 3:34pm

holliek wrote: »

Is anyone able to explain right of redemption to me in plain language? and also what are the important cases?

TIA

It's the right of the mortgagor (borrower) to take back ownership of the property once the mortgage is paid.

The only case I have is Knightsbridge Estates Trusts Ltd v Byrne - Generally terms which postpone the equity of redemption (the date of the final payment when the borrower can be done with the mortgage) will usually be void but this was a commercial arrangement and it was upheld.

ahhhhhFE1s · 01-10-2019 3:50pm

20082014 wrote: »

COMPANY - SLP

Is it correct in saying that no agency was found in Fyffes but SEE was and Denham J reaffirmed that SEE could still be an exception if found in the exceptional circumstances - like what was said in Allied Irish Coal Suppliers?

Also, does anyone have the facts of Fyffes very briefly and simply that they could send in? I have in my notes to make sure to know the facts of this case but from my revision it just appears that you need to know what cases were discussed in Fyffes, not sure if the actual facts are as important?

Facts are a bit complicated if I remember but believe you are right about finding SEE and not agency- my condensed notes just say-
 Fyffes v DCC, Laffoy J. stated that a group of companies can be a single economic entity if to not treat them as such result in them evading their obligations under Part 5 of CA 1990 (Insider Trading Laws).

Dancing Obsession · 01-10-2019 4:49pm

Property
Can anyone share how wills should be interpreted if there is an ambiguity on the face of a will, particularly four corners principle. If anybody has the full answer re four corners principle, the armchair principle and the ideas of latent and patent ambiguity, extrinsic evidence.
I would really appreciate it.

iang198 · 01-10-2019 5:53pm

PROPERTY

Does anyone have any authority for the fact that a witness to a will has to be over 18?

Thanks!

rightytighty · 01-10-2019 5:56pm

iang198 wrote: »

PROPERTY

Does anyone have any authority for the fact that a witness to a will has to be over 18?

Thanks!

They don’t have to be over 18. They can be of any age as there are no formal requirements in that respect but they must be competent.

01-10-2019 7:03pm

COMPANY

What I have covered for company:

Corporate Capacity and Authority
SLP
Share Transfer
Directors
Protection for Minorities
Winding Up
Restriction and disqualification
Corporate borrowing
Receivership
Examinership
Realisation of corporate assets

Anyone think anything not mentioned above will be very likely to come up?

Proctop_ · 01-10-2019 7:15pm

Constitutional:
Would anybody know the answer to q5 on the March 2019 paper?
Relating to the retention of Paula’s blood sample and the disclosure of information from the Gards?

It would be very much appreciated ðŸ€¯ðŸ€ž
Thanks

Daly29 · 01-10-2019 7:27pm

GF612 wrote: »

I completely agree with this! While the papers are tough he does appear to be a fairly nice marker.

I passed Tort in the last sitting and was really sure that I had failed. I completely misinterpreted one question but he must've still given me marks for my application of the law despite it being tangental to the question asked.
It actually ended up being one of my best results so far despite the fact that it's the one I was definitely most worried about afterwards.

Same, last sitting thought I failed which was a bad start. I missed/confused issues in two problem questions, scribbled some things down for one essay questions and it was a 55. Thought 50 would have been kind.

niamh1612 · 01-10-2019 7:28pm

rightytighty wrote: »

They don’t have to be over 18. They can be of any age as there are no formal requirements in that respect but they must be competent.

Do they not have to be over 18 or married as per S77 of SA 1965?

yournerd · 01-10-2019 7:34pm

niamh1612 wrote: »

Do they not have to be over 18 or married as per S77 of SA 1965?

That’s to make a will

GF612 · 01-10-2019 7:50pm

20082014 wrote: »

COMPANY

What I have covered for company:

Corporate Capacity and Authority
SLP
Share Transfer
Directors
Protection for Minorities
Winding Up
Restriction and disqualification
Corporate borrowing
Receivership
Examinership
Realisation of corporate assets

Anyone think anything not mentioned above will be very likely to come up?

Minus Examinership that's what I'm covering so hopefully that's enough! Am still working on getting Receivership, Winding Up and Realisation of Corporate Assets straight in my head though. :eek:

01-10-2019 7:59pm

GF612 wrote: »

Minus Examinership that's what I'm covering so hopefully that's enough! Am still working on getting Receivership, Winding Up and Realisation of Corporate Assets straight in my head though. :eek:

I am not confident in any topic except SLP, I feel like I have skimmed briefly over everything so really hoping the questions are broad! Also hope he is a nice marker!

iamanengine · 01-10-2019 7:59pm

Anyone have a short explanation for the System of Priority in Unregistered Land?

1707 Rules and Equitable Priorities, my notes are a bit of a mess for this.

GF612 · 01-10-2019 8:15pm

20082014 wrote: »

I am not confident in any topic except SLP, I feel like I have skimmed briefly over everything so really hoping the questions are broad! Also hope he is a nice marker!

Oh man, I'm praying he's a nice marker!!

Best of Luck!

Supermax1988 · 01-10-2019 8:18pm

iamanengine wrote: »

Anyone have a short explanation for the System of Priority in Unregistered Land?

1707 Rules and Equitable Priorities, my notes are a bit of a mess for this.

Don't know whether the below will help or confuse you more but I tried my best! ðŸ˜‚

To determine whether equitable or statutory principles apply ask 2 questions:
1. Are the interests capable of being registered under the 1707 Act? If yes, go to no.2. If no, equitable principles apply.
2. Are any of the interests already registered? If yes, statutory principles apply. If no, equitable principles apply.

Equitable Principles
"First in time prevails"
Earlier Legal title v later Legal title
First in time
Earlier Equitable title v later Equitable title
First in time
Legal title v Equitable title
First in time
Equitable title v Legal title
First in time except if the later legal is obtained by a BFPFVWN

Statutory Rules
Not concerned with what was created first of whether its legal or equitable, first internet registered gets priority.

Registered Interest V Registred Interst
First in time

Registered v Registerable but Unregistered
Registered interest will prevail

Registerable but Unregistered v Registered
The Registered title will take priority despite earlier Unregistered interest unless:
(i) it's shown that holder of the registered interest knew of the earlier interest and sought to take advantage of the statutory rules
(ii) if holder or later registered interest gave no consideration for the interest when obtained

JohnsKite · 01-10-2019 9:03pm

Could someone explain legitimate expectation (webb) v/ briefly to me?

JCormac · 01-10-2019 9:06pm

20082014 wrote: »

COMPANY

What I have covered for company:

Corporate Capacity and Authority
SLP
Share Transfer
Directors
Protection for Minorities
Winding Up
Restriction and disqualification
Corporate borrowing
Receivership
Examinership
Realisation of corporate assets

Anyone think anything not mentioned above will be very likely to come up?

Hope not!

I'm the same minus Examinership & SLP.

I know in my gut that a question on SLP is coming up tomorrow; kicking myself for avoiding it.

Hopefully there's a problem Q on Receivership! :pac:

jus_me · 01-10-2019 9:11pm

Probably a silly question but it’s there anything actually in the companies act on SLP?

Aoibhin511 · 01-10-2019 9:52pm

jus_me wrote: »

Probably a silly question but it’s there anything actually in the companies act on SLP?

the only legislation i have down for slp if the fact that s609 and s610 are legislative grounds for lifting the veil.

user115 · 01-10-2019 10:11pm

You can leave your CA in at 9 in the morning ya? How far into the exam do you get it?

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