The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

blanch152 wrote: »

What a load of bitter nonsense, particularly the bits I am quoting from your post.

Kerry have benefitted unfairly since the introduction of inter-county competition by the provincial system.

That is doubled down by the failure of the GAA to promote hurling outside of Munster and Kilkenny. That has meant Kerry got a free ride to All-Ireland semifinals for decades, all because of an unfair and biased structure that lumped Kerry into a province dominated by hurling. Institutional discrimination in favour of Kerry.

Most of the posters on this issue come from three counties - Meath, Kerry and Mayo. Why? Because they have no interest in equal competition, only in doing down what they see as the obstacle to their county’s provincial or All-Ireland success.

As I keep saying, splitting Kerry, amalgamating other counties and restructuring the competition are what is needed to ensure a level competition. Splitting Dublin would be a part of that overall package. This is immediately rejected by the anti-Dubs because of their own selfish motives.

Pretty much nail on the head

The idea that some folks are selling that the AI was an egalitarian utopia pre 2011, with only pure shkill winning out is really laughable

odyssey06 wrote: »

Man Utd play at Old Trafford in front of 90 percent of their own fans. Neutral games there are rare.
Not remotely comparable to when Dublin play in Croke Park. Kerry and Mayo have played there in many times before against Dublin and others, in a city with a large number of their own fans resident.

Dublin and Kerry received equal allocations for the AI games... Dublin have home pitch advantage but it is nothing like true home advantage in rugby or soccer games.

Dublin warm up in front of the hill every game, get the same dressing room every game and get to march on the crowd side of the pitch every pre match parade. Ticket allocations are the same for all GAA games. Dublin play more games there than any other county plays in their home stadium.

I don't see how this is even a debate?

RedDevil55 wrote: »

Dublin warm up in front of the hill every game, get the same dressing room every game and get to march on the crowd side of the pitch every pre match parade. Ticket allocations are the same for all GAA games. Dublin play more games there than any other county plays in their home stadium.
I don't see how this is even a debate?

Its a debate if people incorrectly equate it to Man Utd home advantage in front of 90% home fans in their exclusive stadium.

Dublins situation in Croke Park is nothing like that. It is the weakest possible 'home' advantage possible in comparison when we consider ticket allocations, and frequent use of Croke Park for games not involving Dublin.

odyssey06 wrote: »

I dont know what your statement proves. Is the Aviva Stadium comparable to Croke Park? What use is that to Dublin GAA?

Do Leitrim have such comparable facilities? Dedicated for GAA?

I mean there are excellent GAA training facilities in DCU which Dublin use. Why do you keep bringing up the COE in Kerry?

I believe Leitrim do have a centre of excellence now.

odyssey06 wrote: »

Young players? You mean like the Kerry minor football teams who have won so many recent titles ... in Croke Park?
They seem to adjust on the fly fairly well.

But then in this thread there seems to be so many rules for Kerry versus Dublin its laughable in the transparency of the motives and agenda.

Because playing against kids in empty Croker is the same as against an athletic Juggernaut like the Golden Child. Good lord the ridiculous things ye will say to divert from the doping.......


And to bring up the COE for Kerry is beyond laughable, it had to be FUNDRAISED for like the other COEs around the country to be which involved HARD WORK over many years

I know ye are used to getting everything handed to ye but that isn't the reality for ordinary gaels outside the

TrueGael wrote: »

Because playing against kids in empty Croker is the same as against an athletic Juggernaut like the Golden Child. Good lord the ridiculous things ye will say to divert from the doping.......


And to bring up the COE for Kerry is beyond laughable, it had to be FUNDRAISED for like the other COEs around the country to be which involved HARD WORK over many years

I know ye are used to getting everything handed to ye but that isn't the reality for ordinary gaels outside the

"And no answering signal did come from the lonely Banna Strand" (all hiding under their beds or ringing the RIC

Unfortunately the sort of individual who tries to poke holes in success, to dismantle achievements by innuendo and so on, just doesn’t deserve to be reasoned with.. if they are that stupid to believe that money is the factor let them explain why between 74-94... 20 years, Dublin won 4, Kerry 8.

Strumms wrote: »

Dublin warm up in front of their supporters which in turn means the opposition will warm up in front of their supporters.

If they get the same dressing room that means opposition will do too.

They play more games there as it’s the only GAA stadium big enough and equipped enough to facilitate both the demand from Dublin and Kerry, Dublin and Cork etc.

Would people advocate money being freed up to build a 60,000 seater stadium in Dublin to supposedly enable Croke Park to become more of a neutral venue ? All be it a far less utilized venue ? A bit white elephant that facilitates four or so games a year ?

Your first 2 paragraphs are rubbish. Croke Park is supposed to be the national stadium, not Dublin's home.

Where are you going with a new 60k stadim? There were only 14000 at some Dublin league games this year. With attendances through the floor, Leinster semi-finals no longer need to be played in Croke Park.

RedDevil55 wrote: »

Your first 2 paragraphs are rubbish. Croke Park is supposed to be the national stadium, not Dublin's home.

Where are you going with a new 60k stadim? There were only 14000 at some Dublin league games this year. With attendances through the floor, Leinster semi-finals no longer need to be played in Croke Park.

The entire content of your postings since Aug 2012 is most likely rubbish if you are to use the content of your contribution in this thread as a barometer but sure, get it off your chest, you’ll feel better...

RedDevil55 wrote: »

When you can't argue for Dublin keeping all their advantages you may as well start attacking the poster. Good luck to you.

I’m attacking the content... keeping advantages :pac:

Strumms wrote: »

Unfortunately the sort of individual who tries to poke holes in success, to dismantle achievements by innuendo and so on, just doesn’t deserve to be reasoned with.. if they are that stupid to believe that money is the factor let them explain why between 74-94... 20 years, Dublin won 4, Kerry 8.

I don’t think there’s much innuendo, people aren’t exactly vaguely hinting at things, they are calling it as they see it.

And it isn’t just money they are highlighting....Since 2011, when Dublin started playing all their league games in CP which has made it their home ground, Dublin 7 AIs, everyone else 2. That’s not Dublin’s fault but it is the GAA’s fault. Every field sport in the world sees teams having a better record at home than when play away.

But I suppose that’s another point that’ll be sidestepped and the poster will be attacked.

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Isn't that a stupid approach though?

Bad teams get rewarded.
Good teams get punished.

End result is that everyone is mediocre?

When Dublin we're mediocre they got massively rewarded. I don't see the issue with it now all of a sudden. Dublin will be split eventually but the GAA just sped up the process where they became unbeatable sooner rather than later.

TrueGael wrote: »

Because playing against kids in empty Croker is the same as against an athletic Juggernaut like the Golden Child. Good lord the ridiculous things ye will say to divert from the doping.......


And to bring up the COE for Kerry is beyond laughable, it had to be FUNDRAISED for like the other COEs around the country to be which involved HARD WORK over many years

I know ye are used to getting everything handed to ye but that isn't the reality for ordinary gaels outside the

Ah yeah, the fundraising. Lots of the o’ses standing selling lottery tickets outside mass on a Sunday was it? They didn’t get a cheque for a million quid from their biggest sponsor? A couple of million more from the GAA and Croke park? (Who only care about the dubs apparently). And millions more from big corporate donations and thousand dollar dinners in the states? For a 48 ACRE site with six pitches. And further links to Tralee ITs facilities. Most counties could only dream of that. In dublin you’d struggle to actually find that much space much less buy it (at a premium), yet posters here tell us dublin get everything handed to them because they use DCU.

Kerry have been financially doped for decades, while playing the poor mouth. One of the longest established most professional sponsorship setups and no problem with the odd few quid for a holiday here or there either. It’s not just god given skill that has won then 81 Munster titles (though administrative doping to maintain the status quo has helped)

Tell me how you’ll change football to make Leitrim and Waterford into contenders or else admit it’s pure hypocrisy driven by bitterness against dublin and a yearning for the old status quo

Bridge93 wrote: »

Yes let's move the Leinster semi finals and final out of Croke Park. What ground in Leinster should we play these games in? Nolan Park and O' Moore Park at 27,000 are the next largest. So will we take another hit to the communal coffers at get far less through the gates than want to go? Or will we play the Leinster championship in Tipperary or Cork?

Could play one in Nowlan Park and another in Portlaoise. The semi finals don't have to be a double header. If 36,000 showed up this year for 4 counties this year in Croker then Nowlan and Portlaoise should cope with 2 counties each quite easily.

elefant wrote: »

One idea would be to do the same as everyone else does. And yes, sometimes in sports not everyone gets a ticket for the event they want.

That is fine. I personally would much rather see full grounds than 30,000 empty seats in Croke Park. So long as we're all happy that the gate receipts will be down and as a result a smaller contribution to what can be given out as funding then I'm all for it