Protest Paddy Jackson playing at the weekend?

El_Duderino 09 · 13-09-2019 4:13pm

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Absolutely and protesting a non-rapist is very distasteful and sets a bad example to children, the IRFU should take a very strong stance against people who protest other people for not being rapists.

Why is that something the IRFU should make a stand on? The rights and wrongs of protesting is not really a rugby issue, is it?

Huntergonzo · 13-09-2019 4:21pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Why is that something the IRFU should make a stand on? The rights and wrongs of protesting is not really a rugby issue, is it?

They revoked Paddy Jackson's contract because he made distasteful comments, so I think for consistency sake they should at least hold a peaceful protest against a distasteful protest.

Huntergonzo · 13-09-2019 4:28pm

KrustyUCC wrote: »

The person organising the protest Linda Hayden is running for the Social Democrats next election

She also tried to get Paddy Whiskey to remove their sponsorship from London Irish

Jesus I hope this is not true, if that's the case then she's lower than vermin.

Using a rape trial and organising a distasteful protest to self promote knowing there will be an election within the year.

And this animal had the nerve to use the term “higher moral compass” on the radio this morning, incredible!!

Bannasidhe · 13-09-2019 4:30pm

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Jesus I hope this is not true, if that's the case then she's lower than vermin.

Using a rape trial and organising a distasteful protest to self promote knowing there will be an election within the year.

And this animal had the nerve to use the term “higher moral compass” on the radio this morning, incredible!!

Tell us what you really think. Don't hold back now.

c.p.w.g.w · 13-09-2019 4:33pm

One thing find interesting is.

People give out sh!t about Jackson's WhatsApp messages, and the examples they tend it give weren't messages from Jackson or Olding but Gilroy and he was retained by the IRFU.

A few guards i know said if it happened in the republic it never would have got to court not enough evidence and the witness statement too

Huntergonzo · 13-09-2019 4:37pm

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Tell us what you really think. Don't hold back now.

Listen I take a very dim view of someone who uses a rape trial for self promotion and then incredibly goes on to talk about morals, there's no credibility there whatsoever.

That is of couse IF she is running for election, I don't know for sure that she is.

Achebe · 13-09-2019 4:52pm

Personally, I would welcome any public representative who is willing to take a stand against toxic masculinity.

Faugheen · 13-09-2019 4:52pm

It’s amazing that people think Jackson and Olding were sacked because of WhatsApp messages.

El_Duderino 09 · 13-09-2019 4:56pm

Huntergonzo wrote: »

They revoked Paddy Jackson's contract because he made distasteful comments, so I think for consistency sake they should at least hold a peaceful protest against a distasteful protest.

Consistency? I really don’t think you know what the IRFU is if you think they’re into protesting. Lol.

I’m actually a rugby fan and I completely support the IRFU in its decision in spite of the fact that I’d like to have PJ competing for Ireland. It’s finished and far as the IRFU is concerned.

c.p.w.g.w · 13-09-2019 4:56pm

Faugheen wrote: »

It’s amazing that people think Jackson and Olding were sacked because of WhatsApp messages.

It played a big part.

El_Duderino 09 · 13-09-2019 4:57pm

Achebe wrote: »

Personally, I would welcome any public representative who is willing to take a stand against toxic masculinity.

lol. Against toxic masculinity or against people who dislike toxic masculinity?

Faugheen · 13-09-2019 4:59pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Faugheen wrote: »

It’s amazing that people think Jackson and Olding were sacked because of WhatsApp messages.

It played a big part.

But it wasn’t solely about the WhatsApp messages as some like to claim here.

Huntergonzo · 13-09-2019 5:04pm

Achebe wrote: »

Personally, I would welcome any public representative who is willing to take a stand against toxic masculinity.

Haha 'toxic masculinity', straight out of the sjw starter handbook chapter 1 titled 'the final solution to the male question'.

As a matter of interest what about toxic femininity? Would you like to see a stand taken against that?

Ps, personally I don't believe in either toxic masculinity or toxic femininity, they're terms made up by fanatics, nothing more.

Huntergonzo · 13-09-2019 5:08pm

Faugheen wrote: »

But it wasn’t solely about the WhatsApp messages as some like to claim here.

In fairness it was nothing to do with the messages, that was just their excuse to sack people who were found not guilty of all charges.

They knew that if they didn't sack them there would be media led public outrage and they would have succummed to it in the end anyway.

Basically they thought it best to fold early and used the messages as their excuse.

Huntergonzo · 13-09-2019 5:11pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Consistency? I really don’t think you know what the IRFU is if you think they’re into protesting. Lol.

I’m actually a rugby fan and I completely support the IRFU in its decision in spite of the fact that I’d like to have PJ competing for Ireland. It’s finished and far as the IRFU is concerned.

Well they seem to be into sacking people innocent of rape, that's not great in fairness.

Look I just think it would be nice to see them showing their opposition to a distasteful protest, you think otherwise, that's ok, we're individuals.

Huntergonzo · 13-09-2019 5:14pm

Berties_Horse wrote: »

Don't feed the troll, and it will wither away.

Haha ah sure I was just filling a gap meself Bert, but I have a bit to do now so that's me for a few hours at least.

Pauliedragon · 13-09-2019 5:16pm

I wonder how many of those protesters have ever been in a church for a wedding or funeral? The church are the single biggest rapists in our history. It's a bit hypocritical if they do instead of protesting outside.

Huntergonzo · 13-09-2019 5:20pm

Pauliedragon wrote: »

I wonder how many of those protesters have ever been in a church for a wedding or funeral? The church are the single biggest rapists in our history. It's a bit hypocritical if they do instead of protesting outside.

Ah that wouldn't win you many votes, especially with the older folk, it's better to piggyback on a rape trial.

is_that_so · 13-09-2019 6:33pm

Huntergonzo wrote: »

In fairness it was nothing to do with the messages, that was just their excuse to sack people who were found not guilty of all charges.

They knew that if they didn't sack them there would be media led public outrage and they would have succummed to it in the end anyway.

Basically they thought it best to fold early and used the messages as their excuse.

Not really sure what your argument here is except that the IRFU were wrong.
They chose to view all of it as conduct unbecoming and they held the contracts so their call. You clearly have your own version of outrage about that.

El_Duderino 09 · 13-09-2019 6:44pm

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Well they seem to be into sacking people innocent of rape, that's not great in fairness.

Look I just think it would be nice to see them showing their opposition to a distasteful protest, you think otherwise, that's ok, we're individuals.

Yeah fair enough. I think otherwise because I know what the IRFU is. You wan them to do your political bidding. That’s not it’s job and I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for them to start saving as your political arm. Lol.

I think it would be nice to see the IRFU continue doing Stirling work to grow the sport in Ireland and keep the teams strong.

Bannasidhe · 13-09-2019 6:52pm

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Listen I take a very dim view of someone who uses a rape trial for self promotion and then incredibly goes on to talk about morals, there's no credibility there whatsoever.

That is of couse IF she is running for election, I don't know for sure that she is.

Well, I hate to see what you would call someone who actually committed a serious crime if someone merely protesting is "vermin" and "an animal" in your opinion.

Achebe · 13-09-2019 7:07pm

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Well, I hate to see what you would call someone who actually committed a serious crime if someone merely protesting is "vermin" and "an animal" in your opinion.

This is rape culture.

Huntergonzo · 13-09-2019 7:08pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah fair enough. I think otherwise because I know what the IRFU is. You wan them to do your political bidding. That’s not it’s job and I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for them to start saving as your political arm. Lol.

I think it would be nice to see the IRFU continue doing Stirling work to grow the sport in Ireland and keep the teams strong.

Hey listen, I know exactly what they are and why they took the stance they did with the lads. This is quite an interesting video on the topic:

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

Huntergonzo · 13-09-2019 7:11pm

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Well, I hate to see what you would call someone who actually committed a serious crime if someone merely protesting is "vermin" and "an animal" in your opinion.

Depends on the protest really, but this appears to be political campaigning piggybacking on a rape trial, to me that's vermin yes, 100%

Huntergonzo · 13-09-2019 7:30pm

Achebe wrote: »

This is rape culture.

Purple monkey dishwasher.

Now, top that :-)

NewbridgeIR · 13-09-2019 7:33pm

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Listen I take a very dim view of someone who uses a rape trial for self promotion and then incredibly goes on to talk about morals, there's no credibility there whatsoever.

That is of couse IF she is running for election, I don't know for sure that she is.

She is Kildare South candidate in next General Election. Social Democrats. Also does stand up comedy.

Bannasidhe · 13-09-2019 7:34pm

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Depends on the protest really, but this appears to be political campaigning piggybacking on a rape trial, to me that's vermin yes, 100%

So, just so I can gauge your general level of invective, what would you call an actual rapist?

In your opinion are politicians who attend the funerals of people who suffered tragic deaths but were not personally known to them 'piggybacking on a tragedy?' - are they too "vermin"?

Huntergonzo · 13-09-2019 7:52pm

Bannasidhe wrote: »

So, just so I can gauge your general level of invective, what would you call an actual rapist?

In your opinion are politicians who attend the funerals of people who suffered tragic deaths but were not personally known to them 'piggybacking on a tragedy?' - are they too "vermin"?

I'd call them a rapist, not many things in the world are worse than a rapist, no extra words are needed.

I can't stand politicians showing up at funerals (unless of course they knew the person or are friends of a family member).

A politician showed up at my Granny's funeral a couple of years ago and he didn't know her or any of my family, so yes I would consider him vermin, I wasn't particularly pleased to be honest.

I take it you support this protest against Paddy Jackson and London Irish Rugby?

Huntergonzo · 13-09-2019 7:55pm

NewbridgeIR wrote: »

She is Kildare South candidate in next General Election. Social Democrats. Also does stand up comedy.

Ah come on, you're pulling me chain surely, a feminist/politician/comedian?

Bannasidhe · 13-09-2019 8:06pm

Huntergonzo wrote: »

I'd call them a rapist, not many things in the world are worse than a rapist, no extra words are needed.

I can't stand politicians showing up at funerals (unless of course they knew the person or are friends of a family member).

A politician showed up at my Granny's funeral a couple of years ago and he didn't know her or any of my family, so yes I would consider him vermin, I wasn't particularly pleased to be honest.

I take it you support this protest against Paddy Jackson and London Irish Rugby?

I nether expressed support or condemned it.
I simply think using terms like "vermin" and "an animal" is completely over the top.

Protest Paddy Jackson playing at the weekend?

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