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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,917 ✭✭✭nix


    S.M.B. wrote: »
    100%. It's partly why I like the album so much but it would have also been nice to hear something a little different. I originally thought I was hearing a lot more echoes of Lateralus moments but I think there's also times that I'm hearing 10,000 Days and Aenima.

    After a second listen I'm still liking it but still don't have any melody etched in my brain.


    Yeah 10,000 days for sure, the riff at the start of "Descending" is exactly like the one from Wings for Marie..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Dero


    nix wrote: »
    Yeah 10,000 days for sure, the riff at the start of "Descending" is exactly like the one from Wings for Marie..

    There's a riff in Pneuma Invincible [07:50] that's straight from Jambi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Dero


    nix wrote: »
    Anywhere selling the audio deluxe edition?

    Kinda feel the need to get it as i have everything else of theirs, but its a hefty price :(

    Anybody seen it anywhere?

    Anyway regarding the album, liking it so far, i know i need to listen to it alot more to fully absorb it. There are parts throughout the album where the sound/effect playing for a second is a direct lift from songs on their other albums. Anybody else catching them? Not sure i like that though :pac:

    I was in Golden Discs in Newbridge yesterday. They got five copies in, and the guy literally in front of me got the last one. That's five €100 CDs in one day. The lad behind the counter was quite surprised at that; I was just gutted. If I had been one minute earlier... I snagged one on Amazon in any case (just hope it actually ships!).


    As for the album, I really like it. It's definitely a grower. I was the same with 10000 Days, to the extent that it has now eclipsed Lateralus for me (a hell of a feat!). I don't think Fear Inoculum will do that, but the more I listen, the more I like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Shamo


    7empest is the best song on the album for me but I do tend to prefer the heavier songs. I seem to listen to a couple songs on this album, then go back and listen to how great Right in Two, The Pot or Vicarious is. I think 10,000 days is better but will see how it goes after many more listens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,628 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    nix wrote: »
    Yeah 10,000 days for sure, the riff at the start of "Descending" is exactly like the one from Wings for Marie..

    There's definitely stretches of songs that feel mighty familiar. Descending has a prominent synth section and it's very close in sound to when the synth comes in hard during Reflection. Fear Innoculum has more Reflection drum grooves and the end of it is pure Eulogy. I think some of the riffs may have been around for a while before being put to use - some of the early parts and the closing of Tempest have that rhythmic and crunchy quality that sounds very much like Undertow era material to my ears.

    That been said after a few more listens there's a lot there that sounds new too. Some of the guitar work sounds like a bit of a departure in places and not what I would have expected to hear, which is good.

    The album definitely has its own character. It's not a re-hash of 10000 Days or Lateralus. At this early stage it seems to me that Tempest is probably the pick of the bunch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭Thou


    S.M.B. wrote: »
    100%. It's partly why I like the album so much but it would have also been nice to hear something a little different. I originally thought I was hearing a lot more echoes of Lateralus moments but I think there's also times that I'm hearing 10,000 Days and Aenima.

    After a second listen I'm still liking it but still don't have any melody etched in my brain.

    Tempest is an animal of a tune, definitely etched on this brain already, has some of Adam Jones's best guitar work, very catchy and heavy as well. Vocal passage with harmonies near the end of the song, is top notch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,882 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    This guy bought 4 copys of the album

    https://youtu.be/4LvcZASH41Q


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Loving Descending, 7empest and Pneuma but I tend to enjoy different tracks each time I listen. Absolutely cracking album. I don't think folks could ask for much better from 4 guys in their 50s, 13 years after their last album.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    So this album is pretty good eh? They've always been on my radar but this is the first time I've really listened to them. Is there only 1 drummer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Useful.Idiot


    MadYaker wrote: »
    So this album is pretty good eh? They've always been on my radar but this is the first time I've really listened to them. Is there only 1 drummer?

    Yup, he's incredible. I'm not really a fan of the solo drum interlude track on this album but generally his drumming is very characteristic and powerful with a good bit of experimentation with rhythms and time signatures.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 647 ✭✭✭corcaigh1


    Love the album, the drums have my car shaking like thunder!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,148 ✭✭✭Passenger


    Scratching the surface of this album is a slow process. While it lacks the immediacy of tracks such as Schism, Vicarious, Stinkfist, etc. it does reward the listener with some melodious passages in tracks like 7empest and Pneuma. The album is definitely more of a prog pilgrimage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    After a week I definitely thing the album is at a level that I'd be well up for seeing them tour it. I never like the idea of going seeing a band tour a new album but have little to no interest in the new material. Would be very happy to see some of these songs live.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I saw descending and invincible live in Lisbon and they were amazing. The effects they use along with it are unreal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭frag420


    I saw descending and invincible live in Lisbon and they were amazing. The effects they use along with it are unreal.

    Same at Download...

    It’s like one big audiovisual beast!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭MayoForSam


    Yes, the album is most definitely a grower and lacks the immediacy of some of their earlier material. I guess the 4 of them are a lot older and more mature now, the songs have gotten more introspective with less of the 100 mph stuff and Maynard's roaring. For example, I didn't much like 'Invincible' when I first heard it due to the weird time signatures, however now I think it's a classic. As a man of similar age to the band, I totally get that.

    They've announced a good few dates for the end of 2019 touring the US, hopefully won't have to wait to long for a 2020 European tour. When is the last time they played in Ireland?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    MayoForSam wrote: »
    Yes, the album is most definitely a grower and lacks the immediacy of some of their earlier material. I guess the 4 of them are a lot older and more mature now, the songs have gotten more introspective with less of the 100 mph stuff and Maynard's roaring. For example, I didn't much like 'Invincible' when I first heard it due to the weird time signatures, however now I think it's a classic. As a man of similar age to the band, I totally get that.

    They've announced a good few dates for the end of 2019 touring the US, hopefully won't have to wait to long for a 2020 European tour. When is the last time they played in Ireland?

    2006, Mastodon supported.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Best gig I've ever been to!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Seen a lot of fools online moaning about the length of the tracks and how there's "nothing new" here. Not sure if these people were expecting a reggae-infused album with a Kylie Minogue cameo or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    Even though I'm liking the album I think those are fair enough criticisms of the album. Certainly would not go so far as to call people fools for saying that they feel there's not a whole lot new going on with album and the some songs could have been trimmed a little.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    For anyone that's interested, the CD limited edition is on sale on https://store.toolband.com/ for the rest of today. One last print run apparently.


  • Registered Users Posts: 647 ✭✭✭corcaigh1


    S.M.B. wrote: »
    Even though I'm liking the album I think those are fair enough criticisms of the album. Certainly would not go so far as to call people fools for saying that they feel there's not a whole lot new going on with album and the some songs could have been trimmed a little.

    Huh, trimmed? ffs

    Tools albums are composed to be listened start to finish as a journey...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭Anesthetize


    I've let this album sink in for a while. While it is a solid release, it doesn't reach the heights of Lateralus and Ænima. I would even say it's their weakest album to date.

    7empest is the standout track for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    The albums continues to get so much better for me.

    But not Chocolate Chip Trip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    I've let this album sink in for a while. While it is a solid release, it doesn't reach the heights of Lateralus and Ænima. I would even say it's their weakest album to date.

    7empest is the standout track for me.

    I must say, I love 10000 Days and have listened to it pretty constantly since 2006 but I'm putting the new one well ahead of it so far. It's not a Lateralus or Ænima beater but I wouldn't swap out too many tracks from 10000 Days onto Fear Inoculum. Might change my mind with time, who knows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Useful.Idiot


    corcaigh1 wrote: »
    Huh, trimmed? ffs

    Tools albums are composed to be listened start to finish as a journey...

    That doesn't mean you can't be of the opinion that parts of that journey overstay their welcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Passenger wrote: »
    Scratching the surface of this album is a slow process. While it lacks the immediacy of tracks such as Schism, Vicarious, Stinkfist, etc. it does reward the listener with some melodious passages in tracks like 7empest and Pneuma. The album is definitely more of a prog pilgrimage.

    I listen to a lot of progressive house music and I hear a lot similarities in the style of some of the songs. Id love to get the vinyl of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,882 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Really hope they play here soon

    Olympia maybe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Way too big for the Olympia, even in 2019.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    I'd (and I'm massively assuming here) say when Tool do come here on their eventual European tour, it'll most likely be in The Point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,268 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Yeah 3 arena surely. Album came in a number 4 in the album charts which is kind of amazing. Hopefully a european tour in 2020.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    I didnt make it to the gig in 06 so Tool is pretty much top of my list of bands I've yet to see live. Really hoping for more European dates. Hopefully something will be announced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,628 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I'd be very surprised if they skip over us, the album landed at number four in the charts and it'll be the 3Arena or nowhere. They've been an arena band ever since Lateralus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Useful.Idiot


    Hopefully they'll come here but don't bet on it either. They're well worth a short plane journey and a couple nights away anywhere though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    I'll be doing their London Arena date and I'm actually looking forward to seeing them from a decent seat as opposed to a standing viewpoint. That could just be my age showing though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭frag420


    I remember seeing them in the SFX back in the day...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    Lateralus tour? Definitely one of my top 5 gigs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Seems the album hit no.1 in the states.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭fyfe79


    Anyone else order the CD from WOWHD and are still waiting? I pre-ordered it on Aug 14th and got a shipping notice at the end of the month but no sign as yet :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭stevek93


    I seen them in Amsterdam this year. Holy balls I was blown away


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  • Registered Users Posts: 30 davr


    FYFE79 -Yes same boat but won't be too worried just yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Speedwolf


    stevek93 wrote: »
    I seen them in Amsterdam this year. Holy balls I was blown away

    I saw them in Amsterdam too. Decending was amazing. One of the best live bands out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭s8n


    Seen them at Rock Werchter, it was incredible.

    Also lucky enough to have been at the SFX show back in 2001 - Recording of show can be found here https://tooldriveproject.net/Details/?ID=629


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,628 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    s8n wrote: »
    Seen them at Rock Werchter, it was incredible.

    Also lucky enough to have been at the SFX show back in 2001 - Recording of show can be found here https://tooldriveproject.net/Details/?ID=629

    That's cool. Thanks bro!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭cosatron


    the sfx gig was the best gig I was ever at. In Ænema when he was singing we are praying for rain and the whole crowd raised there hands in air was pretty cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Pneuma is one of my favourite tracks they've ever done, I think. The album continues to grow on me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 861 ✭✭✭Vudgie


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    Pneuma is one of my favourite tracks they've ever done, I think. The album continues to grow on me.

    I still can't get Eminem's 'Lose Yourself' out of my head when the main riff starts ;)

    I'm loving the album, my favourtie song changes all the time which is a great sign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    Vudgie wrote: »
    I still can't get Eminem's 'Lose Yourself' out of my head when the main riff starts ;)

    Thanks for that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭DeadSkin


    Vudgie wrote: »
    I still can't get Eminem's 'Lose Yourself' out of my head when the main riff starts ;)

    I'm loving the album, my favourtie song changes all the time which is a great sign.
    Grayditch wrote: »
    Thanks for that!

    Haha!! I break into a bit of Danzig (Motheeeeeerrrrr!!) about 6 mins or so into "Culling Voices".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Vudgie wrote: »
    I still can't get Eminem's 'Lose Yourself' out of my head when the main riff starts ;)

    I'm loving the album, my favourtie song changes all the time which is a great sign.

    Going to ignore that first part although that's probably the one Eminem song that I like! :D

    Album is amazing yeah. Really into Pneuma, the title track and Culling Voices at the mo. 7empest hasn't really grabbed me so far but I'm sure that'll happen at some stage.


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