Any info out there on TOOL.

TheDocMan

Hey, first post on this forum. Was/ am a big fan of TOOL but been really out of touch with all things musical over last 3-4 year's. Used read the mags and be well clued in.
Saw these boys supporting RATM in Dublin many moons ago. Follows them and got all their stuff ( except Salival) etc.Got their last album - the one with the eye pieces-but that's it.
So any news at all- gigs, releases, general info would be cool.
Time to give Sober a blast. Thanks

viadah

General info is thin on the ground generally, but they are working on a new album which is expected hopefully soon. Ya can always go to toolband.com for the latest news on what their webmaster is up to.....

120_Minutes

New album being written, but a lot of factors come into play for a tool album nowadays, and it pretty much all centres round maynard. He's got pusifer and his vineyard on the go, with bits and pieces of a perfect circle now and then,and when he's at non tool related stuff the other members do their own thing sticking to the los angeles area.

They're not a band that spend ages in the studio recording, preferring to take time getting the songs ready in rehearsals. so when you hear they're in the studio, you know an album isnt far away.

Maynard doesnt tour during harvest season, so i'd expect the new album will come out just before summer 13, with a quick summer north american tour, possibly followed by a short european leg, or they may push that into spring 2014.

they've broken the record this time though, it'll be 7 years since 10,000 days next year, it was 5 beween that and lateralus and the same for aenima!

TheDocMan

Thanks lads, looks like i`ve not actually missed too much TOOL related.
Have a couple of A Perfect Circle releases.
Never heard of Pusifer- any good, much like Tool stuff?
Cheers.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

they're not really like tool but they are very good

if you've seen underworld, they had a song on the OST

rev 22:20

GLaDOS

Of the Puscifer Stuff I've listened to, this is by far my favourite song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIjUtzWrCeA

That said, it probably wouldn't be out of place on an APC album A lot of the other stuff is fairly different though.

If you like Tool I'd definitely recommend A Perfect Circle.

s8n

TheDocMan wrote: »

Hey, first post on this forum. Was/ am a big fan of TOOL but been really out of touch with all things musical over last 3-4 year's. Used read the mags and be well clued in.
Saw these boys supporting RATM in Dublin many moons ago. Follows them and got all their stuff ( except Salival) etc.Got their last album - the one with the eye pieces-but that's it.
So any news at all- gigs, releases, general info would be cool.
Time to give Sober a blast. Thanks

dont ever recall RATM & Tool playing a joint gig in Dublin !!!

TheDocMan

99.9% sure TOOL played support for RATM in Tivoli Theatre on Francis St back in August 93. Yea i`m that old but what a night. There`s some links between De La Rocha and Jones i think.

lord lucan

TheDocMan wrote: »

99.9% sure TOOL played support for RATM in Tivoli Theatre on Francis St back in August 93. Yea i`m that old but what a night. There`s some links between De La Rocha and Jones i think.

Tool never played that night. For the life of me i can't remember who the support band were but it wasn't Tool. They were pretty poor whoever they were.

buck65

Was really disappointed with 10,000 days apart from a couple of songs.

Tar.Aldarion

Think it's a fantastic album myself. Probably the best band I've seen when they were in Dublin, slipknot were great too. Can't wait for either to be back here or the UK.

120_Minutes

As others have said, I don't think they supported ratm in the tivoli. However I think they did play low on the bill at either feile 93 or 94, but I was at neither so cant confirm. It would make sense though as Rollins band played 93 and ratm played 94 both of whom tool were touring with at the time.

120_Minutes

TheDocMan wrote: »

There`s some links between De La Rocha and Jones i think.

Tom morello and Adam jones were in a high school band together.


Maynard sings "i got no patience now/time has come to pay" on know your enemy on the first ratm album.

gj777

you can always check fourtheye.net for info on the band too, they sometimes get info that doesnt make it to toolband.com.

also, if any tool fans have some spare cash at the moment:

Link removed. This forum is not for advertising things you are trying to sell.

/end shameless self promo

Motley Crue

I think I've always loved the fact that TOOL can still disappear to such a large extent - even when in the "public eye" and touring.

Their whole musical approach has been just about that, 100% about the music, you don't really tend to EVER hear stories about internal conflicts, band members suing each other or any affairs/drug abuse etc...I'm sure it goes on, it's just refreshing to see a band who enjoy keeping out of the spotlight so much.

cheesebiscuit

TheDocMan wrote: »

99.9% sure TOOL played support for RATM in Tivoli Theatre on Francis St back in August 93. Yea i`m that old but what a night. There`s some links between De La Rocha and Jones i think.

Tool are on the ticket but it was Whipping Boy who played the gig.

Motley Crue

120_Minutes wrote: »

As others have said, I don't think they supported ratm in the tivoli. However I think they did play low on the bill at either feile 93 or 94, but I was at neither so cant confirm. It would make sense though as Rollins band played 93 and ratm played 94 both of whom tool were touring with at the time.

I don't have the poster but it was Feile 94 they played

07.30.94 - Tipperary, Ireland @ Feile Festival

It's amazing how I know so few of these bands, and that Dustin and Ray D'Arcy are listed as 'Guest DJ's' (shudder...)

Vic Vinegar

Such a strange mix of genres in that line up!

Vaxxine

Would love a new Tool album, and tour sometime in the near future. Seen them play a few times before, and they are amazing. Been listening to them and APC a lot lately. Not much of a Puscifer fan myself!

frag420

That friday night line up is awesome!! JIm ROse Circus too............

xerces

Hitler Finds Out About The New Tool Album (2014) .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3bveYrlrlI

120_Minutes

He's not wrong about them going instrumental

Richy06

I hope it's not gonna be a case of diminishing returns, as 10,000 Days was. 4-5 actual tracks amongst a heap of noise art. Which would fine, but then you take into account how long they took between Lateralus and 10,000, I hoped for more.
As for the instrumental thing, Tool wouldn't be Tool without MJK's lyrics and vocal. They'd just be another, admittedly excellent, instrumental metal band. We've got enough of them!

Tar.Aldarion

I thought 10, 000 days was excellent, lots of ambient interludes but they were there before in their other albums. Yeah, not as good as the others though, well I listen to it more than most of undertow.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

it took me a while to grow to 10,000 days but now it has several of my favourite tool songs, 10,000 days itself (including wings for marie), vicarious, rosetta stoned. Right in two I keep forgetting is on 10,000 days, for some reason it really strikes me as a lateralus song.

Richy06

Don't get me wrong, I like the album and love some of the songs off it. I'm well aware that the albums interludes are something Tool have done since Aenima, and done to excellent effect with Laterlus. But with 10,000 Days, the split between them went from 80/20 to 60/40, at least it felt like that was the case to me. As a listener, I prefer to take albums as a whole and always give it a chance to connect. But I never reach for 10,000 Days like I do Lateralus or Aenima, apart from maybe Vicarious, Jambi, Right In Two, The Pot maybe Intension. I know I go against the grain here, but I'm really not a fan of Wings For Marie *ducks whilst abuse is hurled!

hidinginthebush

viadah wrote: »

General info is thin on the ground generally, but they are working on a new album which is expected hopefully soon. Ya can always go to toolband.com for the latest news on what their webmaster is up to.....

Haha! That always annoyed me about the toolband site. You go to there trying to get the lowdown on album news etc., and the guy's mentioning all these people who were at a bar-b-q at the weekend, and you're wondering who the hell there people are!

With all the 10,000 days talk, anyone ever hear this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFjEp79zaNw

xerces

Random video, but it's great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5VGILERzgg

Richy06

hidinginthebush wrote: »

Haha! That always annoyed me about the toolband site. You go to there trying to get the lowdown on album news etc., and the guy's mentioning all these people who were at a bar-b-q at the weekend, and you're wondering who the hell there people are!

With all the 10,000 days talk, anyone ever hear this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFjEp79zaNw

Nope! Thanks for that! Found this explaining it and afew other album easter eggs too.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18896_10-mind-blowing-easter-eggs-hidden-in-famous-albums.html

120_Minutes

I've never put much faith in the whole "line up a few songs to get a hidden message" thing that follows tool around, but they do hide stuff in their songs:

The guy "banging on the door telling you to turn it down" in the last chorus of sober.

Maynard saying "suck my dick" in portugeuse in the middle section of stinkfist

The "stay in school" backwards vocals of intension.

there are also very hard to hear whispers in ticks and leeches on lateralus and no quarter on salival.

hidinginthebush

120_Minutes wrote: »

I've never put much faith in the whole "line up a few songs to get a hidden message" thing that follows tool around,

Me too. Though in this case there is a huge coincidence of the tracks making up the same exact time. That said, I don't think it adds anything to either track, just sounds different.

Vaxxine

Maye83 wrote: »

Random video, but it's great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5VGILERzgg

That was excellent, the kid on the bass was so in to it!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

more or less on topic

Miprocin

New Album is reportedly "100% Finished".

Here’s a sentence eight years in the making: Tool have finished their new studio album.

According to Crave Online, guitarist Adam Jones has confirmed that the long-awaited follow-up to 2006′s 10,000 Days is ”100% done” and should arrive later this year.

In an interview with Loudwire last summer, drummer Danny Carey insinuated that some outside forces were holding up the album’s release. ”We could have the record finished by the end of the year – that’s a possibility, but the logistics of getting it manufactured and getting the record company in line and all this stuff, I doubt we’ll be able to get it out before Christmas. We’ll see how it goes. Most likely, it’ll be early 2014.”

Meanwhile, frontman Maynard James Keenan spoke about the band’s intricate recording process in an interview with Rolling Stone last November. ”I don’t write the music. They write the music,” he said of his bandmates. “I wait for them to bring music to me. They tend to go back over and over stuff. It’s a long process. For a person like me, it can be a very tedious process.”

Keenan continued, ”In some ways, they are bigger perfectionists. But you can only help support their talent so long. They don’t have to go through it 700 times. They can trust that first thought. But that’s their process, so you gotta let them do it.” And is that process happening? “I couldn’t tell you.”

Tool is currently touring the U.S., their first such jaunt in two years. Thus far, they’ve stuck to the greatest hits.

I'll believe it when I see it but I can't say this news hasn't excited me!

There's also some videos floating around of their latest live performances and they look spectacular.

xerces

Well "100% done" is a pretty unambiguous statement, I'm gonna allow myself some excitement .

Lithium93_

I hate to burst everyone's bubble about the new Tool album being ''100% Done''. I'm afraid you've all been trolled by the band.


http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/rumors/adam-jones-new-tool-record-is-done

Miprocin

xerces

Oh well.

Dave H

I'm in Portland on business and was lucky enough to snag a couple of tickets for the show that someone posted a clip of earlier. Mind bending visuals and a near perfect performance. No new material played but that's fair enough.

Tar.Aldarion

it'll still probably be out this year

spiralism

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

it'll still probably be out this year

Been saying that a few years now though. In all honesty Tool treat their fans terribly, an album every 5 years at the absolute best and 10-12 song setlists when they tour, as good live as they are. Maynard spends way too much time pricking around, guy is a knobhead imo, albeit a hugely talented one.

Thought 10,000 days was good but not great and didn't hold a candle to the previous two. Two albums this millenium is a ****ing joke though.

Somnus

spiralism wrote: »

Been saying that a few years now though. In all honesty Tool treat their fans terribly, an album every 5 years at the absolute best and 10-12 song setlists when they tour, as good live as they are. Maynard spends way too much time pricking around, guy is a knobhead imo, albeit a hugely talented one.

Thought 10,000 days was good but not great and didn't hold a candle to the previous two. Two albums this millenium is a ****ing joke though.

I get where you're coming from, but I would rather wait for them to release an album when they're ready than be the kind of band churning out a forgettable album every couple of years and grinding the road constantly. These days that seems like the only way to make a living as a musician, and I don't think that's a good thing.

However Tool can afford to have such huge breaks between albums, more power to them. I like to think the music will benefit

Richy06

They owe nothing to anybody but themselves. They don't have to play for anyone or make music for anyone, they choose to. To say they treat their fans terribly is mad. They aren't some sort of company providing a service to loyal customers, they're a bunch of artists, musicians or whatever you wanna call them. They can take as long about it as they like, really and shouldn't be beholden to some over entitled individuals who have an over reaching sense of ownership about Tool's music. They're all involved in other stuff and with their art becoming more complex as the years wore on, it takes a little longer. Those live performances look stellar. Love to see them again.

Miprocin

To borrow a phrase originally written about George RR Martin and his tendency to take years to finish books, "Tool are not your bitch".

hidinginthebush

I don't think I'd say they treat their fans terribly, and when they do tour, they are fantastic live. That said, they have said in the past few years that they won't be touring much any more, as they felt that the long, year-long tours are too taxing on them physically. Which is perfectly fine, except it means we probably won't get to see them over this side of the Atlantic again. It would be nice if they released an official dvd for all the fans who don't get to see them, but I've read that the won't (and discourage people taping their shows) as they feel their gigs are a personal moment that you have to experience in the flesh.

I'm looking forward to the new album with a passing interest, I'm sure it'll come out eventually, but 10K days was pretty forgettable apart from 1 or 2 tracks IMO. I'm sure it'll be a great effort with lots of depth to the lyrics and music, but just can't get excited about it.

120_Minutes

They're currently on a US tour, and many people are uploading live audio/footage of jams/extended intros to songs that are rumoured to be snippets of new songs.

There is a precedent for this, when they'd play a snippet of Wings for Marie on the lateralus tours..

Grayditch

spiralism wrote: »

Been saying that a few years now though. In all honesty Tool treat their fans terribly, an album every 5 years at the absolute best and 10-12 song setlists when they tour, as good live as they are. Maynard spends way too much time pricking around, guy is a knobhead imo, albeit a hugely talented one.

Thought 10,000 days was good but not great and didn't hold a candle to the previous two. Two albums this millenium is a ****ing joke though.

The average Tool song is about 6-7 mins, so a 10-12 song set list could easily run an hour and 20 mins, which is fine if you ask me. I consider Tool's music to be unique and of serious standard, and I'm not in the band, so I'm not sure how easily it would be to put these albums out any quicker.

The great thing about Tool fans, is they usually have a fairly broad taste in music so there's things to listen to in the meantime, especially in the Australian scene (Karnivool, COG, etc).

Being into Tool isn't a subscription for fans, and I'm sure being IN any band isn't really an obligation to do anything at any given pace. Tool aren't a pop band, like. "Tool treat their fans terribly" is a bit of a weird statement, to be honest.

120_Minutes

hidinginthebush wrote: »

It would be nice if they released an official dvd for all the fans who don't get to see them, but I've read that the won't (and discourage people taping their shows) as they feel their gigs are a personal moment that you have to experience in the flesh.
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They recorded some of the lateralus tour, and some of the 10k tour I think, and they had planned a dvd, but realised it didnt fit the style of the band. Adam Jones mentioned they'd rather do a movie type thing along the lines of Pink Floyd's The Wall, but that they would need funding from studios et al. They dont have the clout that metallica has to do something like through the never.

In fact, when making the video for vicarious the production company doing the cgi screwed them over and Jones had to call in a favour from an industry friend to complete the video as a nixer!

TheDocMan

cheesebiscuit wrote: »

Tool are on the ticket but it was Whipping Boy who played the gig.

Just found the old ticket stub here, 24th Aug 1993 - £10 & yea Tool on the ticket to support RATM. Didn`t know it ended up being Whipping Boy.

Motley Crue

The author of this piece puts forward some questionable statements, I have never considered TOOL a Nu Metal band....but have a read

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/uponsun/2014/05/6_nu-metal_bands_you_shouldnt.php?page=3

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

that was very almost funny