NAS Walrus Reveal Thread

Necro · 05-09-2019 08:59PM

And the scoring, in table format with no mix-ups :pac:

Ranking Entry Combined Score Walrus Score Entrant
1 Changes 34 17 Kolido
2 Port of Amsterdam 24 16 Tammy!
3 Like Suicide 24 15 Banjo
4 Ghetto Gospel 24 14 Barney92
5 I L U 24 13 Homer J. Fong
6 Grace 23 12 kitten_k
7 Tops Drop 22 11 Sheridan81
8 Zombie 22 10 MicksJaguar
9 Dreams 20 9 sullivlo
10 War of the Worlds 19 8 Pretzill
11 Northern Sky 17 7 osh, Rikand
12 Orion 13 6 fixxxer
13 Only Yesterday 13 5 Mollyb60
14 Dang! 12 4 partyjungle
15 Pennyroyal Tea 9 3 Electric Nitwit
16 Sexual Healing 4 2 Green&Red

osh · 05-09-2019 09:00PM

Deleted User wrote: »

My expression was just delight/surprise to see him mentioned, not an 'Ah here...what are you talking about?'

Right sorry, thought you were giving me grief for mentioning it was a great tune but not mentioning him as a great artist

Anyway congrats (again) Kolido! A nice few rounds for you

kitten_k · 05-09-2019 09:00PM

Thanks guys. Well done Kolido

05-09-2019 09:01PM

Great reveal and congrats Kolido

Necro · 05-09-2019 09:03PM

Forever Young playlist

Tammy! · 05-09-2019 09:04PM

I have to admit I was just thinking someone who had died and a song from their prime

and I think I recall that round was added later so just thought quickly. I don't mind if ye want to deduct points...but I would argue Bowie was always in his prime

It is a great song though. The lyrics are so harsh and it takes a few listens to get into so I didn't think it would do well at all

Well done Kolido!

Pretzill · 05-09-2019 09:05PM

Congrats Kolido - thanks Stu and Necro for the reveal

osh · 05-09-2019 09:06PM

So this was my other entry I was thinking of. Love this song.

His only album was released after his death.

Necro · 05-09-2019 09:07PM

And how we look after four rounds:

Name Ballad of Chasey Lain Irish Songs A Song For Europe Forever Young Total
Tammy! 17 16 4 16 53
Kolido 16 13 17 17 63
fixxxer 15 2 15 6 38
Barney92 14 3 14 14 45
Banjo 13 11 7 15 45
sullivlo 12 4 14 9 39
Electric Nitwit 11 17 9 3 40
Mollyb60 10 6 12 5 33
partyjungle 9 13 15 4 41
osh 8 8 6 7 29
Pretzill 7 9 10 8 34
Green&Red 6 15 13 2 36
kitten_k 5 5 14 12 37
Homer J. Fong 4 12 8 13 37
Rikand 3 10 5 7 25
MicksJaguar 2 7 16 10 35
Sheridan81 1 14 11 11 37

And then in rank and file order:

Name Score
Kolido 63
Tammy! 53
Barney92 45
Banjo 45
partyjungle 41
Electric Nitwit 40
sullivlo 39
fixxxer 38
kitten_k 37
Sheridan81 37
Homer J. Fong 37
Green&Red 36
MicksJaguar 35
Pretzill 34
Mollyb60 33
osh 29
Rikand 25

05-09-2019 09:09PM

Seems we have a bit of controversy, and with rightful grounds.

I can't speak for Necro, but for my own mileage the likes of Prince and Bowie were not young by age, but were still striving to produce new music and were not merely doing the nostalgic greatest hits tours that many 'old' acts are doing at similar ages. That counted for me in the scoring with this round.

If this game was something super serious like Werewolf where rules and mechanics were considered for months and a potential meltdown could erupt with players, we might have caught things in advance like a better way to score the duplicate entries...or time to discuss and iron out exact parameters or a cut-off age for a round like this.

As it is though, Walrus is very much a game where I don't want to get too pedantic about rules unless they are easily defined or researched (like original writers in the Irish song round) and I'm aiming for fun rather than being right. It's music and I'm judging it...there's no way this is right so we may as well have some craic.

Hope you will all understand and no one will be upset about the Bowie placing, but absolutely feel free to question it. Also, like every round so far, I had no idea who submitted what song until less than an hour before we kicked off and after the rankings were done.

Mollyb60 · 05-09-2019 09:10PM

I Love that my musical **** term has become a thing. Lol.

Debated A LOT about which Carpenters track to submit but it was always gonna be one from them. Karen was a legend. Ah well.

Banjo · 05-09-2019 09:12PM

Well done Kolido, great reveal chaps.

osh · 05-09-2019 09:13PM

Ah I wouldn't say controversy. And you can argue that any great artist is taken before their time while they're still recording good music.

I just personally wanted to go for someone who hadn't realised their potential. But I've no problem with Bowie placing where he did.

Tammy! · 05-09-2019 09:15PM

Don't worry, I'll be getting proper ousted out in the dance round anyway

Necro · 05-09-2019 09:17PM

Speaking of which it's me back hosting for our next round.

I'll be in touch with a date and time following discussions with my co-judge

05-09-2019 09:19PM

Mollyb60 wrote: »

I Love that my musical **** term has become a thing. Lol.

Debated A LOT about which Carpenters track to submit but it was always gonna be one from them. Karen was a legend. Ah well.

Is that were Necro got it from? It's a classic in the guitar world, I lolled when I saw Necro write it...as much as I disagreed in this particular instance

Carpenters were a great choice for this round, I just have tunes of theirs which resonate with me more than others...same as all of us. Superstar is another great tune.

Electric Nitwit · 05-09-2019 09:51PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

15th: Pennyroyal Tea - Nirvana

Stu: I never really liked Pennyroyal Tea, least of all the Unplugged version. That acoustic sound of Kurt's on Unplugged doesn't agree with me. It's perfect for 'The Man Who Sold The World', but not a full gig of tunes…not for my listening. Not crazy about his vocal in this performance either. That coupled with me just never liking the song leaves Pennyroyal Tea near the bottom. Unfortunate, because Cobain is one of those artists this round was made for and I very much like Nirvana.

Necro: Let me caveat this by saying that I love Nirvana. Nevermind is one of my fave albums of all time. That being said I just didn't get into this like I expected to, and if I'm honest I was kinda glad it was over. Loved the unplugged sessions but this was one I would usually skip if I'm honest. So it pains me to do it, but I've gotta score this one relatively low despite loving the band.

Scores

Stu: 15th
Necro: 12th

Overall: 3 points to
Electric Nitwit

Well at least I didn't have to scroll far to find mine! You're both dead to me

We're just totally at odds, I love this song. I love this version of this song. I picked it though, because it's Kurt solo. Obviously Nirvana have much, much better, but for this round I wanted it to be about him

I'll have to catch up on all the rest tomorrow

I'm going to resist scrolling on to see who won for now

Pretzill · 05-09-2019 10:00PM

Tammy! wrote: »

I have to admit I was just thinking someone who had died and a song from their prime and I think I recall that round was added later so just thought quickly. I don't mind if ye want to deduct points...but I would argue Bowie was always in his prime

It is a great song though. The lyrics are so harsh and it takes a few listens to get into so I didn't think it would do well at all

Well done Kolido!

You picked someone worthy of the high ranking - if I had thought less quickly there are many (John Martyn already mentioned) Fogelberg, Nillsson, Lennon, Etc but for some reason the category immediately made me think of younger artists - thought I was pushing it with Phil

Barney92 · 05-09-2019 10:19PM

Ha, I was thinking of Changes instead of Ghetto Gospel but I do like the Elton John bits of Ghetto Gospel. Really like them both though. Fair play Kolido.

05-09-2019 10:22PM

I knew that Mac Miller song wouldn't do well

quickbeam · 06-09-2019 05:56AM

quickbeam wrote: »

Wondering if anyone picked what I’d have picked if I was to pick.

Answer: No, they did not :P

Congrats Kolido!

Necro · 06-09-2019 06:47AM

What would you have picked QB?

quickbeam · 06-09-2019 06:55AM

Possibly something by someone who'll appear in my entry to Molly and ALC's Walrus, so I'll leave you hanging until then

Mollyb60 · 06-09-2019 07:39AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is that were Necro got it from? It's a classic in the guitar world, I lolled when I saw Necro write it...as much as I disagreed in this particular instance

Carpenters were a great choice for this round, I just have tunes of theirs which resonate with me more than others...same as all of us. Superstar is another great tune.

I mentioned it in my walrus as being something I despise. It's only vaguely acceptable in a live gig as far as I'm concerned. And it's mostly why I hate jazz. It's all ****. I just want them to get to the point.

I almost entered Masquerede or Close To You. I just couldn't decide. I changed the entry about 4 times. Her voice is so amazing and it's right in my register so their songs are always a shower favourite for me.

Banjo · 06-09-2019 07:49AM

Mollyb60 wrote: »

I mentioned it in my walrus as being something I despise. It's only vaguely acceptable in a live gig as far as I'm concerned. And it's mostly why I hate jazz. It's all ****. I just want them to get to the point.

The other side of that, all members of a band have a voice and something to say, they just express it through different instruments. Except bass players (*runs away from the Burtonites*). So in many of these cases, they may well have gotten to their point, it's just a case of you being open to accept it

Mollyb60 · 06-09-2019 07:52AM

Banjo wrote: »

The other side of that, all members of a band have a voice and something to say, they just express it through different instruments. Except bass players (*runs away from the Burtonites*)

Yeah but the beauty of a band is that all the individual voices are better together. I don't need a 10 minute drum solo to show me how wonderful a drum player so and so is. That fact will shine out through the song regardless.

And the bass guitar is the sexiest instrument.

Banjo · 06-09-2019 08:07AM

Mollyb60 wrote: »

Yeah but the beauty of a band is that all the individual voices are better together. I don't need a 10 minute drum solo to show me how wonderful a drum player so and so is. That fact will shine out through the song regardless.

And the bass guitar is the sexiest instrument.

That, I'm afraid, like the idea that you invented a term that predates your birth, is an opinion Mollyb60, not a fact. But one which you are entitled to hold close.

fixXxer · 06-09-2019 08:12AM

Oh lordy. Necro may I interest you in a few pints before the last category? If 8 minute Orion didn't do it for you then the 8 minute song i picked for that might need some help

Necro · 06-09-2019 08:14AM

fixxxer wrote: »

Oh lordy. Necro may I interest you in a few pints before the last category? If 8 minute Orion didn't do it for you then the 8 minute song i picked for that might need some help

Depends. Does it have lyrics

I've honestly mostly forgotten what everyone has submitted (as is evident from our muck up re kitten/Banjo last night), I check the day of to compile the reveal.

fixXxer · 06-09-2019 08:17AM

Necro wrote: »

Depends. Does it have lyrics

I've honestly mostly forgotten what everyone has submitted (as is evident from our muck up re kitten/Banjo last night), I check the day of to compile the reveal.

It has the best lyrics. It is the best song. In the World. Ever.

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