NAS Walrus Reveal Thread

Necro

Right, let's get this crack-a-lackin.

Welcome everyone to our Walrus Reveal Thread!

I'm Necro, your co-hostest with the mostest



And it's finally time to reveal my co-judge and the brains of the operation.



GARY SINISE!!

Wait... that's not right... although his hair is as equally amazing.

It's Stu Redman - Stephen King fans will get it

Anyways Stu and I have been delighted to receive 17 entries for the following 6 categories, and we've been casting our shackles aside and listening with fervour to them for the past 2 weeks.

Firstly, the categories:

1. The Ballad of Chacey Lain
2. Favourite Irish Song
3. A Song For Europe
4. Lord/Lady of the Dance
5. 'Forever Young'
6. Best Song In The World

So... how is this going to work given this is a first (on Boards) attempt at co-judging categories.

What if Stu loves a tune and Necro wants to burn it with fire?
What if Necro loves a song and Stu thinks it's only ok?

Well here's basically how this is going to work.

Both of us will score the entries out of 17 - the number of entries we have. Points will be applied from 1 right up to 17 with maybe some divergences if there are duplicate entries.

We have not communicated (much anyways) to each other at all our preferences until compiling, nor did we pay any attention to who actually submitted what.

We will alternate turns at doing the reveal - so I will go first, Stu second, me third, Stu fourth and myself 5th - and then we will do a joint reveal for the final category.

Here's a basic idea of how the judging will go:

1st - Oasis - The Masterplan

Necro: Here is where Necro would write his bit about the song, whether he likes it or not (it's Oasis, it's fooking masterful), hopefully a decent few words since the fcuker was able to make 800+ posts in a game of WW!! Can also say something like 'It's such a pleasure to have Stu on board' if he likes...which he probably will.

Stu Redman: I love Oasis, best band of all time - Necro is right you're all wrong!!


Scores:

Necro: 1st
Stu Redman: 1st

Total 17 points

submitted by:

This is obviously a direct quote from Stu above, ask him yourself if you doubt me

May not be a direct quote from Stu

First reveal is scheduled for tomorrow evening. Will inform you all of what time at some stage tomorrow:)


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Playlist for all songs submitted per round:

The Ballad of Chasey Lain

Favourite Irish Songs

A Song for Europe

Forever Young

Lord/Lady Of The Dance

Best Song In The World

tusk

17! Wow. I feel so betrayed right now

fixXxer

Well this should be interesting

Necro: "Hey Stu, fancy coming up with a couple of categories to judge in Walrus?"

Stu: "Sure buddy, I can listen to some tunes."

*some time passes*

Necro: "Come ere you might judge them all with me, sure why not!"

Stu:



Que 6 playlists, 104 songs, and me having flashbacks to last August's Stephen King WW preparations. Quickbeam has done so well not to get an SOS from me

Seriously though, it's been great fun and has taken me out of my comfort zone. Thanks to Necro for bringing me in on this.

This first category, The Ballad of Chasey Lain, was really tough to score but for all the right reasons. There was only one song I hated :pac:

You might be surprised Necro, but Oasis were the greatest band in the world for me back then, especially when that Masterplan B-Sides album was released.

The very first band I was in we played mostly Oasis and Manics songs, a lot of them, and the really deep cuts too...

LOL...our mothers and aunties coming to gigs to hear this sorta stuff. "Ah aren't they....great "

Necro

I LOVED that Manics album.

My mate had OCD about the Manics and followed them everywhere.

Actually this would have been a great entry for the first category for me anyways

(Not the same album, but you get where I'm going)

Necro

I actually sang that song for my Music Practical in JC, and two mates playing the guitar riffs behind me.

Ah... simpler times.

Pretzill

I just realised I got the category order wrong, it should be obvious - but if it isn't my 3 is your 4 and vice versa.

Can't wait to hear everyone's choice.

Necro

Pretzill wrote: »

I just realised I got the category order wrong, it should be obvious - but if it isn't my 3 is your 4 and vice versa.

Can't wait to hear everyone's choice.

You're grand, you had the categories handily listed beside your entries

Not too long to go now until we reveal the list of songs and their rankings, which will decide who wins this first round of this prestigious competition, where we asked to receive songs from the entrants for us to then go off and listen and decide carefully which song places highest and which song places lowest, here in this competition to see just whooooo....is the King of the Walruses...Walrei oh no wait it is Walruses.

Necro

Aiming to kick this off sometime around 6.30-7pm folks

sullivlo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Necro: "Hey Stu, fancy coming up with a couple of categories to judge in Walrus?"

Stu: "Sure buddy, I can listen to some tunes."

*some time passes*

Necro: "Come ere you might judge them all with me, sure why not!"

Stu:



Que 6 playlists, 104 songs, and me having flashbacks to last August's Stephen King WW preparations. Quickbeam has done so well not to get an SOS from me

Seriously though, it's been great fun and has taken me out of my comfort zone. Thanks to Necro for bringing me in on this.

This first category, The Ballad of Chasey Lain, was really tough to score but for all the right reasons. There was only one song I hated :pac:

Now I'm nervous.

sullivlo

sullivlo wrote: »

Now I'm nervous.

Whoever submitted it, I hope they don't take offence or anything personal from it.

After all, I didn't when I had to listen to it :pac:

The Ballad of Chasey Lain. A croony love song or an anthem of power? We just LOVE our ballads. Send us one that you just can’t get out of your head.

This was a tough category to define given Necro's wide parameters for an accessible first round to kick us off. This category's interpretation isn't exactly 'what it says on the tin'. Not as binary as other categories in our game.

So I'm kind of going for epic here, moving melodies, varied instrumentation, memorable choruses, moods created with the instrumentation and arrangement, can the artist write/sing about love? If not, can they get me off my seat to do my own interpretation of dancing?


Kate Bush, she could sing about love...

This is certainly an anthem to make people get off their seats and sing along...

See you this evening folks.

Necro

Interestingly no one decided to go for the song that inspired the name of this category

NSFW, folks:

Electric Nitwit

When I read the thread title I just see...

Necro

While you're all waiting for the reveal to start, I'm pleased to say we have 17 tracks tonight.

No duplicates entered for this category anyways.

I enjoyed all but maybe 2 of the entries myself. And even then they aren't bad per se, but just not my cup of tea to be honest.

Sorting this category was difficult, and finding reasons to do so even more so. Very enjoyable though nonetheless.

I do post a lot but I'm not as articulate as Stu, so hopefully you get the gist of what I'm trying to say :pac:

tusk

Necro wrote: »

Aiming to kick this off sometime around 6.30-7pm folks

FG gon be hoppin' tonight!

Electric Nitwit

Just double checked my entry, cocky...
"No messing around, just the best rock ballad of all time!"

Don't break my heart guys

kitten_k

Looking forward to my first Walrus

sullivlo

kitten_k wrote: »

Looking forward to my first Walrus

Me too.

But nervous because I have ****e taste in music.

Wooden spoon awaits.

Pretzill

I think I'm sunk because I hate ballads, so I didn't pick one. But I love my entry nonetheless.

Necro

Ok we'll be getting underway shortly.

I mentioned Motorcycle Emptiness previously which would have been something I'd personally enter into this category.

Another example of something I'd like if I was going for a song with a bit less 'oomph' though would be this:

Just the quintessential chilling song for me. Stick on my sweats, crack open a brewski.

About 10 mins and we can kick things off, just need to get my sh1t in order seeing as I have the honour of hosting the first category reveal (Thanks Stu :cool: now I'll be the one getting the funny looks)

Necro

Interesting fact: Nobody tried to bribe me by submitting Westlife this category.

But did someone pick Oasis...

Well we'll have to see

Necro

Also I have to say welcome to our new players for the game:

sullivlo
Banjo
kitten_k
Sheridan81
Tammy!

5 new players along with our regulars (Homer J. Fong's second Walrus iirc)

Thanks for all your submissions folks, I've had fun the past few weeks

Necro

Ok let's get started. I won't torture you with top 3/bottom 3 for this category.

Save it for another one... maybe :P

Stu will be along shortly I'm sure as well to jam with us all

Necro

17th Place: Jane Siberry - It Can’t Rain All The Time

Necro: So yeah, this just wasn’t my thing at all. The main singer kinda warbles in and out of tune a few times and it just became a bit hard to listen to. Like I can see what the aim of the song is I think but her voice and the way she strains so much to hit the higher notes in this one just really puts me off. Sorry

Stu Redman: Out of the 2-3 songs I've never heard before in this round, this one I definitely gave the most listens to in order to try and crack. Even still, we just didn't mesh. If I loved The Crow movie and knew this song since then, no doubt it would carry a lot of emotional weight with me. Now though, I think the moment is gone for me. It has got some fantastic ambient guitars, Jane Siberry is clearly a talented singer, but overall the song is stopping and starting too much, there are a few chord changes which just pull me out of the song. It is quite a journey, but unfortunately I don't think it's one for me.





Scores:
Necro: 17th
Stu: 16th

1 point to

Sheridan81

Necro

16th Place: Paul Brady - Arthur Mc Bride

Necro: This is ok. Yeah, ok. I’m not massively gone on it though. There’s much better entries, there are also worse. I gave this a few listens but I just couldn’t get into it in the way I did the ones above it. Couple of more relistens and yeah I’m just the same now as I was then.




Stu Redman: I must go carefully here. This is a category which isn't so easily defined, but I did want to hear epic love ballads or power anthems rather than old style ballads and folk songs. BUT - It's Paul Brady singing Arthur McBride. In a more fitting category, the next round even, this goes near the top of my list without even knowing what the other entries are, but in this category? It brings me to a place I'm just not expecting. The Long Goodbye would have likely top fived this category for me, but I reluctantly have to place Arthur McBride near the bottom. I love it, just not for this round.


Scores:
Necro: 15th
Stu: 15th

2 points to

MicksJaguar

Electric Nitwit

Oof, welcome to Walrus Sheridan

We've all been there, it'll get better!

Necro

Necro wrote: »

While you're all waiting for the reveal to start, I'm pleased to say we have 17 tracks tonight.

No duplicates entered for this category anyways.

I enjoyed all but maybe 2 of the entries myself. And even then they aren't bad per se, but just not my cup of tea to be honest.

Sorting this category was difficult, and finding reasons to do so even more so. Very enjoyable though nonetheless.

I do post a lot but I'm not as articulate as Stu, so hopefully you get the gist of what I'm trying to say :pac:

I do prefer 'articulate' to 'verbose', cheers Necro :pac:

fixXxer

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

Oof, welcome to Walrus Sheridan

We've all been there, it'll get better!

Not always

Electric Nitwit

fixxxer wrote: »

Not always

Shhhh....

Necro

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

Oof, welcome to Walrus Sheridan

We've all been there, it'll get better!

Yeah when I finally stopped listening to the playlist and I started putting names to the songs, I felt pretty bad

Just didnt click with me unfortunately.

Electric Nitwit

Necro wrote: »

Yeah when I finally stopped listening to the playlist and I started putting names to the songs, I felt pretty bad

Just didnt click with me unfortunately.

The first song of the first walrus I was second bottom. One day I'll recover and stop hating Rikand

It wasn't last for me, I didn't hate it :pac:

Pretzill

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

The first song of the first walrus I was second bottom. One day I'll recover and stop hating Rikand

I know I was near the bottom in the first one too ( Beatles Cover - I never reCovered. )

Ectoplasm

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

The first song of the first walrus I was second bottom. One day I'll recover and stop hating Rikand

And yet you bounced back in the 2nd walrus

Necro

Speaking of that Stu....

Well....

fixXxer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It wasn't last for me, I didn't hate it :pac:

Oooh a rift between the judges already!

Necro

15th Place: Jamie Lawson - Wasn’t Expecting That

Necro: I go up and down with this song, it’s a bit slow moving, bit repetitive. Listened to it though without the video which is a bit boring and enjoyed it much more. The major issue is that while it’s a nice little song, it doesn’t ‘wow’ me, like some of the later entries do.




Stu Redman: This is one of those songs where from the moment I heard it on the radio upon its release, the over-repeated hook just etched at my soul with a blunt nail. An instant dial-reacher. As opposed to something like When You Let Her Go from Passenger, the first few times I heard that song, I was like "Aww that's nice", but since then I consider it to be one of the worst things to happen to music since Mark David Chapman set out with his gun and autograph book one cold night in '86. Well this Jamie Lawson number, I don't mean to offend whoever submitted it at all, is just a song I can't abide in any category. It's the constant repetition of 'I wasn't expecting that'. Yeah, he's telling a story, but there's no need to bate the shyte out of us with that hook. Those kind of songs either work or don't work for people, the person who submitted and I are just on opposite sides of the divide here.

Scores:
Necro: 13th
Stu: 17th


3 points to

Rikand

Haha, Rikand? I wasn't expecting that!

Sorry, but not to Jamie Lawson.

Necro

14th Place - Tom Waits - Grapefruit Moon

Necro: One of the two entries I just didn’t really like of the category. I’ve heard great things about Waits but every time I listen to him - his voice, whilst good puts me to sleep. Ok so I do sort of like the melody but his voice just doesn’t resonate with me like other entries did. Sorry again




Stu Redman: You can't really have a ballad category without something from Tom. Anything off of 'Closing Time' featuring Tom at a piano, and I'm instantly placed in a smokey lounge somewhere in Manhattan wistfully wondering about the one that got away. Grapefruit Moon totally does that for me. Doesn't rank higher because I need my epic drum fills and/or deep beats in this round

Scores:
Necro: 16th
Stu: 9th

4 points to

Deleted User

Pretzill

Lovely choice Homer

Love your honesty about Tom Waits, Necro.

Necro

I'm sorry I just can't get enjoyment out of his voice I dunno what's wrong with me

Pretzill

Necro wrote: »

I'm sorry I just can't get enjoyment out of his voice I dunno what's wrong with me

He isn't for everyone. Tom Traubert's Blues is special though, but I get the sleepy thing. It's like Van Morrisson with me, I actually fell asleep once at work listening to Van.

fixXxer

Love Tom Waits, but yeah he's not for everyone.

Any Waits fans should check out his former Child Minder Jesca Hoop. Wonderful voice and well worth a listen.

Necro

13th Place - Bryan Adams - Have You Ever Really Loved A Woman

Necro: First impressions were decent, though a bit slow. I think if you’re submitting Bryan Adams to a Ballad category it’s very hard to look past Everything I Do and Heaven. There’s no denying it’s a quality track, but unfortunately for our entrant and Mr. Adams there are better ones coming up. Thanks though, I do like this one.


Stu Redman: Yep, this was part of a crop of ballads I couldn't stop listening to in the early-mid 90s. This, Stay from Lisa Loeb, Kiss From A Rose by Seal, Where The Wild Roses Grow from Nick and Kylie. I feel Bryan Adams is such an underrated songwriter and performer - Very easy to laugh off Summer of 69 and bunch him into some 'meat and potatoes' or 'guilty pleasure' category, but tunes like this show the diversity and range in his songwriting. Great tune, but if you had have submitted All For One And One For All or Everything I Do, those would have scored even higher with me personally in this category.


Scores:
Necro: 12th
Stu: 11th



5 Points to

kitten k

Electric Nitwit

Four in and they were all new to me!
I like that

quickbeam

Necro wrote: »

I'm sorry I just can't get enjoyment out of his voice I dunno what's wrong with me

Too black and white?

Necro

Necro wrote: »

I'm sorry I just can't get enjoyment out of his voice I dunno what's wrong with me

This is probably his most accessible song. If you don't like this or Grapefruit Moon, maybe it's a lost cause...

My link is failing, but it's a song called I Hope That I Don't Fall In Love With You.

Edit 2: Link success! Thanks Electric Nitwit.