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Dunedin · 23-08-2019 07:56PM

lalababa wrote: »

WTF?? Tell me I'm wrong....
750kg@2euro =1500 at mart.
@50% kill out ...
375kg@3:50base=1312
What's going on there??

750kg x 55% kill = 412.5 x 3.50 base + 12c QA + maybe 6c bonus = €1518.

Probably lose a little between mart fees and factory stoppages but in reality a bullock at 750 live weight would be bought for further feeding (by an eternal optimism!!)

Bass Reeves · 23-08-2019 08:00PM

Dunedin wrote: »

750kg x 55% kill = 412.5 x 3.50 base + 12c QA + maybe 6c bonus = €1518.

Probably lose a little between mart fees and factory stoppages but in reality a bullock at 750 live weight would be bought for further feeding (by an eternal optimism!!)

I was in the mart last week and I taught finished bullocks were making more than they would on the factory. However a lot of lads that feed for 50-100 days are getting 29-30 more. They may be buying for direct to slaughter to make up loads

Dunedin · 23-08-2019 08:07PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I was in the mart last week and I taught finished bullocks were making more than they would on the factory. However a lot of lads that feed for 50-100 days are getting 29-30 more. They may be buying for direct to slaughter to make up loads

Absolutely of course that might be the case. Might be a contract seller who is getting a bit above the rest of us either but my point was that he will make pretty similar to the €1500 ring price.

Bass Reeves · 23-08-2019 08:20PM

Dunedin wrote: »

Absolutely of course that might be the case. Might be a contract seller who is getting a bit above the rest of us either but my point was that he will make pretty similar to the €1500 ring price.

Yes we'll finished Ch Bullocks will kill 53-56% depending on FS and grade will make in or around that. However a month ago they were making 100-150 less than factory price. I saw Friesian 630kgs with flesh on them make 1150 last week and not QA. With QA in the factory they would make 1050-1080 IMO

patsy_mccabe · 23-08-2019 08:24PM

Normally when mart prices are higher than factories, certain people expect a price rise soon.

Bass Reeves · 23-08-2019 09:03PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Normally when mart prices are higher than factories, certain people expect a price rise soon.

I think the strike may have upset the equilibrium. An agent hinted the same It was his opinion if they had stopped at 3.6/kg cattle would have kept on coming and no strike. They killed 4-6 weeks of there own cattle. Along with that cattle were going to get tight anyway. After the strike some farmers held hoping for a price rise so I hey had to use more feedlot cattle to keep line moving. They killed nearly 40k the week after the strike. I would not be surprised to see prices hitting 3.7 by end of September. If prices go up they will climb 20-30 cent in 2-3 weeks.

dzer2 · 24-08-2019 06:46AM

If prices start to rise lads should hold off until they hit 4 euro.

patsy_mccabe · 24-08-2019 07:33AM

If some bit of certainty comes to Brexit, a sterling price rise will help things too.

White Clover · 24-08-2019 07:36AM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

If some bit of certainty comes to Brexit, a sterling price rise will help things too.

Sterling has strengthened in the last week. We won't be told about that tho!

Dunedin · 24-08-2019 07:37AM

dzer2 wrote: »

If prices start to rise lads should hold off until they hit 4 euro.

Agree but most of us will probably have lost a bit of interest by then and even if we’re still interested, I doubt the nursing home will let us out.

bogman_bass · 24-08-2019 01:32PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Normally when mart prices are higher than factories, certain people expect a price rise soon.

I think the strike may have upset the equilibrium. An agent hinted the same It was his opinion if they had stopped at 3.6/kg cattle would have kept on coming and no strike. They killed 4-6 weeks of there own cattle. Along with that cattle were going to get tight anyway. After the strike some farmers held hoping for a price rise so I hey had to use more feedlot cattle to keep line moving. They killed nearly 40k the week after the strike. I would not be surprised to see prices hitting 3.7 by end of September. If prices go up they will climb 20-30 cent in 2-3 weeks.

God Love your optimism Bass!

When have you ever seen price rise this time of year?

Bass Reeves · 24-08-2019 03:21PM

bogman_bass wrote: »

God Love your optimism Bass!

When have you ever seen price rise this time of year?

Twice about 6-10 years ago. Both times had a few for sale, last time got 3.7/ flat for Friesian bullocks base was 3.7 at the time weather was excellent at the time , time before than something similar. For the last 5-6 years kill during the autumn gas remained very strong. If numbers drop prices will rise simple as that.

bogman_bass · 24-08-2019 05:18PM

I hope you’re right!

Cavanjack · 24-08-2019 05:37PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Twice about 6-10 years ago. Both times had a few for sale, last time got 3.7/ flat for Friesian bullocks base was 3.7 at the time weather was excellent at the time , time before than something similar. For the last 5-6 years kill during the autumn gas remained very strong. If numbers drop prices will rise simple as that.

I think in 2017 prices strengthened going into November also.

grange mac · 25-08-2019 05:35AM

Think factories have succeeded in dropping prices of store's, sold some and took my pain at 1.90 to 2.25 in skibb. Lighter made more money makes no sence. Weanlngs unbelievable trade, upto 3.30 "for fancy white charalois and same in macroom yest. Something v wrong when animals being sold will only make 200 more than animals a year older.
Clearly weaning trade not affected yet......in this side country.

niallf · 29-08-2019 03:05PM

Anyone know what decent 6 month old British Friesian bulls would be making in the mart at the moment?

Bass Reeves · 29-08-2019 09:08PM

niallf wrote: »

Anyone know what decent 6 month old British Friesian bulls would be making in the mart at the moment?

euro/kg I say

mahoney_j · 29-08-2019 09:37PM

niallf wrote: »

Anyone know what decent 6 month old British Friesian bulls would be making in the mart at the moment?

1/1.20 kg max

cam1452 · 30-08-2019 06:08AM

Any idea what 19 months good square British fresians bulls 560kg. Are making

Grueller · 30-08-2019 06:29AM

cam1452 wrote: »

Any idea what 19 months good square British fresians bulls 560kg. Are making

Suckler bred square cattle are at €1.90 a kilo around here. €1.50 to €1.65 a kilo is my guess but that's only a guess.

Bass Reeves · 30-08-2019 07:23AM

cam1452 wrote: »

Any idea what 19 months good square British fresians bulls 560kg. Are making

Grueller wrote: »

Suckler bred square cattle are at €1.90 a kilo around here. €1.50 to €1.65 a kilo is my guess but that's only a guess.

Not a hope, have not seen them selling as every lad is holding them. Last winter they made 3-3.3/kg DW. At present accordingly to the FJ they are making 3.2-3.3 in the factory. They have to be finished which means for them housing and silage and ration or ration and straw, It will cost more to feed them than They put on in weight at present prices.

Some of the lighter ones sub 450 kgs are being squeezed. Unless you have a contract there is no point finishing them. Yes you can gamble but a lot of farmers are fed up gambling. I can already hear the whispers ''this is the year to finish cattle''

With present and last winter prices taking an optimistic outlook of 3.5/kg at Christmas and that is very optimistic,giving the feeder 100 euro margin the price would be 1.25/kg.

dohc turbo2 · 30-08-2019 08:33AM

Was in castleisland Monday and prices varied but 2 main buyers were poling each other mad , a black lm bull now in fairness he was nice 420 kg made 1050 , red lm similar weight we’re making around 900 , there was a smashing sim bull 350 kg went for 625 ,

Panch18 · 30-08-2019 09:11AM

Prices back 100 a head in the last week or so

Seems the lads protesting who thought the mart price would go up because of the protests are sadly mistaken

Danzy · 30-08-2019 09:25AM

Panch18 wrote: »

Prices back 100 a head in the last week or so

Seems the lads protesting who thought the mart price would go up because of the protests are sadly mistaken

They were probably just 2 lads and one of them doesn't even own cattle though.

FarmerBrowne · 30-08-2019 08:04PM

Saw a report on Castlerea yesterday, farmers need their heads examined if it was them that were paying the prices for the weinlings quoted, I hope for their own sake it was exporters because otherwise they are holding onto cattle for the next year at a loss from day 1. When will they learn.

patsy_mccabe · 03-09-2019 07:55PM

Saw some char weanlings selling today in Ennis
Qty WEight Price DOB
2 478kg 850 ....aug 18
2 410 880 ....dec 18
1 320 890 ....feb 19
1 360 980 ....feb 19

Explain those prices.........

Cavanjack · 03-09-2019 08:00PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Saw some char weanlings selling today in Ennis
Qty WEight Price DOB
2 478kg 850 ....aug 18
2 410 880 ....dec 18
1 320 890 ....feb 19
1 360 980 ....feb 19

Explain those prices.........

Exporters, bfp, old age pension, habit and lunacy

tellmeabit · 03-09-2019 08:03PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Saw some char weanlings selling today in Ennis
Qty WEight Price DOB
2 478kg 850 ....aug 18
2 410 880 ....dec 18
1 320 890 ....feb 19
1 360 980 ....feb 19

Explain those prices.........

Were they similar shape class?
Hard to follow at the moment

Hard Knocks · 03-09-2019 08:19PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Saw some char weanlings selling today in Ennis
Qty WEight Price DOB
2 478kg 850 ....aug 18
2 410 880 ....dec 18
1 320 890 ....feb 19
1 360 980 ....feb 19

Explain those prices.........

The exporter is looking for the call 300-350kg
Heavy bulls have taken a hit
Did I see somewhere that vistar are looking 500kg+ for export?

patsy_mccabe · 03-09-2019 08:27PM

tellmeabit wrote: »

Were they similar shape class?
Hard to follow at the moment

Not that much of a quality difference, to explain the price difference IYKWIM.

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