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Albert Johnson

I called into Ballina as I was passing, the bull weanling seemed a good enough trade for anything quality and not to heavy. There were a lot of light calves (sub 250kg) which I thought unusual compared to other years. They were a solid trade and made mostly from €2.50-3 euro a kilo and up to €3.50 a kilo for the best of them. The general run of weanlings were in the 280-400kg bracket and we're making from €2-2.50 a kilo with exceptional types clinching €2.80 a kilo, the further over 350kg the closer to €2 a kilo they seemed to be going.

240kg March born LMx @ €700
180kg May born CHx @ €580
250kg April born AAx @€;550
315kg February born LMx @ €700 (very average and thought it a good price tbh)
385kg December born LMx @ €830 (he was a miller of a calf but black LMx not a good seller).
375kg December born CHx @ 975
505kg January born CHx @ €1125 (super bull)
605kg June 18 born SIMx @ €1050 (beefy gutty type bull.)
540kg SIMx same as above @ €860.
I didn't venture over near the heifers so I can't comment on what they were like.

Bass Reeves

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I called into Ballina as I was passing, the bull weanling seemed a good enough trade for anything quality and not to heavy. There were a lot of light calves (sub 250kg) which I thought unusual compared to other years. They were a solid trade and made mostly from €2.50-3 euro a kilo and up to €3.50 a kilo for the best of them. The general run of weanlings were in the 280-400kg bracket and we're making from €2-2.50 a kilo with exceptional types clinching €2.80 a kilo, the further over 350kg the closer to €2 a kilo they seemed to be going.

240kg March born LMx @ €700
180kg May born CHx @ €580
250kg April born AAx @€;550
315kg February born LMx @ €700 (very average and thought it a good price tbh)
385kg December born LMx @ €830 (he was a miller of a calf but black LMx not a good seller).
375kg December born CHx @ 975
505kg January born CHx @ €1125 (super bull)
605kg June 18 born SIMx @ €1050 (beefy gutty type bull.)
540kg SIMx same as above @ €860.
I didn't venture over near the heifers so I can't comment on what they were like.

There will be a touch in that 540kg SIM bull

dohc turbo2

Bass Reeves wrote: »

There will be a touch in that 540kg SIM bull

Are they still looking for bulls u16 months or what’s the story with bulls now

Albert Johnson

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I called into Ballina as I was passing, the bull weanling seemed a good enough trade for anything quality and not to heavy. There were a lot of light calves (sub 250kg) which I thought unusual compared to other years. They were a solid trade and made mostly from €2.50-3 euro a kilo and up to €3.50 a kilo for the best of them. The general run of weanlings were in the 280-400kg bracket and we're making from €2-2.50 a kilo with exceptional types clinching €2.80 a kilo, the further over 350kg the closer to €2 a kilo they seemed to be going.

240kg March born LMx @ €700
180kg May born CHx @ €580
250kg April born AAx @€;550
315kg February born LMx @ €700 (very average and thought it a good price tbh)
385kg December born LMx @ €830 (he was a miller of a calf but black LMx not a good seller).
375kg December born CHx @ 975
505kg January born CHx @ €1125 (super bull)
605kg June 18 born SIMx @ €1050 (beefy gutty type bull.)
540kg SIMx same as above @ €860.
I didn't venture over near the heifers so I can't comment on what they were like.

There will be a touch in that 540kg SIM bull

I suppose there probably will be Bass but it's not exactly a sustainable setup either, sadly the only way to make a profit on beef cattle atm requires someone else to get a serious burning. Granted the lad that held onto them bulls up till now without some mitigating circumstances needs his head examined imo. Bar the very tops of bulls it's not paying to feed above 350kg at the current time.

valtra2

First of the bulls gone tonight. Adv 600kg Sept 18, 1200, not the best but ok for the year that's in it.

Albert Johnson

valtra2 wrote: »

First of the bulls gone tonight. Adv 600kg Sept 18, 1200, not the best but ok for the year that's in it.

I'd agree that it's about the price of them atm, €2 a kg seems to be the run of it for goodish stores of any type at those weight's. I keep telling lads that bar the very tops of calves it's not paying to feed above 350kg at the present time. That's not much addition to anyone with heavy bulls currently but lighter weanlings should be offloaded as they come fit. The bull weanling trade is being underpinned by the export market and hopefully this will continue for the rest of the trading season. Heifer's are a lesser trade especially plainer types and I can't see much more of a bite coming into the market for them tbh.

Muckit

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I'd agree that it's about the price of them atm, €2 a kg seems to be the run of it for goodish stores of any type at those weight's.

That's what l'd be thinking. Will be out hopefully in a few weeks buying in and not going above this no matter how sweet she is!!

Albert Johnson

Muckit wrote: »

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I'd agree that it's about the price of them atm, €2 a kg seems to be the run of it for goodish stores of any type at those weight's.

That's what l'd be thinking. Will be out hopefully in a few weeks buying in and not going above this no matter how sweet she is!!

There isn't that much cattle being showed locally atm. It'll be interesting to see what happens when the glut of weanlings and stores start to appear, the live trade is staying artificially high especially in the heifer ring imo given the current beef trade. Certain types of stock are as dear as ever atm while more are a bad trade, it's very dependent on what you have imo. I saw a bundle of AAx stores that were sold last week, circa 500kg @ €1.88, they were average suckler bred stores and I'd have thought that in or around €2 a kg would have been there price in good times. Similarly another bundle of nice CHx weanlings 220-250kg that were bought last week are standing €690 apiece which is €30 more than last year this is despite there 2017 born comrades killing €240 less. It's hard to weigh it all up atm.

Limestone Cowboy

Muckit wrote: »

That's what l'd be thinking. Will be out hopefully in a few weeks buying in and not going above this no matter how sweet she is!!

You'd have an empty box going home if you were in kilfenora tonight so muckit!

Muckit

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

You'd have an empty box going home if you were in kilfenora tonight so muckit!

Better an empty box than a dear one!! l don't usially stray outside of Ballinasloe anyways!

marathon

Any idea what aax weighing 340 kilos 19 months old would bring?

Albert Johnson

Muckit wrote: »

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

You'd have an empty box going home if you were in kilfenora tonight so muckit!

Better an empty box than a dear one!!

Big +1 on this, I'd much rather have an empty trailer and be down the price of the diesel and grub rather than buy dear stock for the sake of buying something. The potential for profit when you sell is largely determined on the day of purchase, I've learned this to my cost from personal experience. If there too dear from the outset it's almost impossible to alter this regardless of management afterwards imo. Any set back after this and your into the red straight away, I'd rather be looking at the money than trying to win it back on over priced stock.

furandfeather

Sold 4 bulls this evening
Avg weight 480
Avg price 955

valtra2

2 euro a kg is picking up the most of them

Western Pomise

furandfeather wrote: »

Sold 4 bulls this evening
Avg weight 480
Avg price 955

What breed?

furandfeather

Western Pomise wrote: »

What breed?

3 sims and 1 ch

Limestone Cowboy

Muckit wrote: »

Better an empty box than a dear one!! l don't usially stray outside of Ballinasloe anyways!

Agreed. Didn't even want to go myself in case something caught my eye :rolleyes: seen 2 nice red lims 320kg 955. Any nice ch heifer 280-300kg running into 750+ freely. There's no value in weanlings compared to year and a half stock. Didn't see any nice continental types selling at €2/kg.

Bass Reeves

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Agreed. Didn't even want to go myself in case something caught my eye :rolleyes: seen 2 nice red lims 320kg 955. Any nice ch heifer 280-300kg running into 750+ freely. There's no value in weanlings compared to year and a half stock. Didn't see any nice continental types selling at €2/kg.

Buy a few 19-20 month Friesians

tellmeabit

Had a look in gortalea last night

Black lmx  250kg July €530
Orange lm 255kg Feb € 675
Char 185kg June €505

3 lmx 270kg March €685

Lmx 260kg  March €650

Lmx 220kg Mar €570

 Lmx 240kg Mar 670€
Lmx Mar 210kg  € 550
Chx april 260kg € 650
Chx 330kg may €520
Ch April 232kg €600
Ch  330kg  March €765

Ch may 205kg €585     pbnr
2 Lm   240kg     €625
Mar lm 255kg € 630

Ch 215kg may €545

Lm 245kg  April  € 485

Aux April 205kg € 555



3 chlmx may 223 kg €560
Aux april 245kg  €570
Bbx april 280kg €645
Lmx Mar 300kg  €770
Lchx feb 320kg € €755

Chx Feb 270kg €650


Black lmx Mar 335kg €650

Ch April  285kg € 835

Chx Mar 310kg € 740

Lmx Jan 395kg € 930
Lmx 350kg Feb € 870

Chx 290kg April € 685

Bbx 420kg Mar €1055

Ch 320kg Mar €770

Chx mar 300kg €720

Chx 355kg feb  €685

Ch feb 375kg  €880

2 Lmx 290kg € 780
1 Im Mar 385kg  €875

2 lmx 350kg Dec  €790
2lm Jan 322kg € 740

1lm Jan 295kg €700

Lmx Mar 355kg €940
Lm Feb 360kg €765
Lm Feb 315kg  €755



Lm Feb 315kg  €760

Lm 270kg Mar  €790

Lm feb 355kg  €815

Im Feb 255kg € 570

Lm Feb 245kg €565









Hef
Chx April 200kg €500kg
Lmx Mar 245kg €545

Waternotsoda

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Buy a few 19-20 month Friesians

What kind of finish would you expect from these. When would you expect to finish them?

patsy_mccabe

Just saw a FR bull in Thurles mart (live stream) at 430 Kgs & 18 months, make €540. Poor demand for young bulls, it seems.

https://www.farmersforum.ie/live-marts/

Buford T. Justice XIX

Fr bulls 395 for 430 just now:(

Anto_Meath

You would wonder with the likes of that 18 month old bull not going to be fit under 24 months with out a lot of meal would you be as well off squeeze him and finish him as a bullock around 30 months.

Albert Johnson

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Just saw a FR bull in Thurles mart (live stream) at 430 Kgs & 18 months, make €540. Poor demand for young bulls, it seems.

https://www.farmersforum.ie/live-marts/

I'm not much of a judge of Friesians as there something of an anomaly here in the deepest darkest North West but demand for young heavy bulls is poor across all breeds atm. Bar the very tops of bulls once you go over 380kg buyers are thin on the ground especially if there 12 months +, circa €2 a kilo seems to be the price of average coloured store bulls 400kg and over so I'd imagine Friesians will be significantly less.

Albert Johnson

Anto_Meath wrote: »

You would wonder with the likes of that 18 month old bull not going to be fit under 24 months with out a lot of meal would you be as well off squeeze him and finish him as a bullock around 30 months.

In my opinion your right, squeeze him and put him back to grass in the spring. Come next August you could revaluate the situation and see about feeding him meal for a few weeks depending on his condition. However a lot of lads don't want that sort of hassle or couldn't bear to look at him, if he's 18 months + and still intact then he's probably not a bullock for the "front field". Some lads are very into that sort of thing or so I'm told.

Anto_Meath

Albert Johnson wrote: »

In my opinion your right, squeeze him and put him back to grass in the spring. Come next August you could revaluate the situation and see about feeding him meal for a few weeks depending on his condition. However a lot of lads don't want that sort of hassle or couldn't bear to look at him, if he's 18 months + and still intact then he's probably not a bullock for the "front field". Some lads are very into that sort of thing or so I'm told.

That's why most of my land is in long lanes....Ye there is lads into appearances alright. I wouldn't be to pushed what anything I buy looks like once the money is right, now I would be a bit annoyed if I bred something I don't like the look of and mammy would be getting the road.

Muckit

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Just saw a FR bull in Thurles mart (live stream) at 430 Kgs & 18 months, make €540. Poor demand for young bulls, it seems.

https://www.farmersforum.ie/live-marts/

The real cattle are going through now. Some lovely bunches of limo and ch bulls gone through and all under €2/kg

Albert Johnson

I called into Ballina today as I was passing, big enough show of weanlings and seemed to be plenty of buyers about. The good bull calf seemed dearer than other weeks imo. The nice farmers calf 250-330kg was freely making €2.50-3.00 a kilo for good continental sorts. Anything nice under 250kg were a total rip and €3.00-3.30 a kilo was common place. Even average AAx or HEx type bulls were making €2.10-2.40 a kilo up to 300kg.

There didn't seem to be many heavier bulls in it but the majority over 400kg were making €2.00-2.20 a kilo for continental's. Anything agey or off colour at those weight's struggled to clinch the €2 a kilo. I didn't venture near the heifers but was told they were an easier trade especially for plain types.

Anto_Meath

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I called into Ballina today as I was passing, big enough show of weanlings and seemed to be plenty of buyers about. The good bull calf seemed dearer than other weeks imo. The nice farmers calf 250-330kg was freely making €2.50-3.00 a kilo for good continental sorts. Anything nice under 250kg were a total rip and €3.00-3.30 a kilo was common place. Even average AAx or HEx type bulls were making €2.10-2.40 a kilo up to 300kg.

There didn't seem to be many heavier bulls in it but the majority over 400kg were making €2.00-2.20 a kilo for continental's. Anything agey or off colour at those weight's struggled to clinch the €2 a kilo. I didn't venture near the heifers but was told they were an easier trade especially for plain types.

Ye Carnaross was the same last Tuesday night, nice continental calves between 250 - 350 Kgs were €2.50 - €3 a kg (I would say €2.80 was the main run of it) where as anything over 400 kgs was around €2, if it was a HEx or AAx then could was back to €1.75.

patsy_mccabe

Just saw in that Thurles livestream above, bullocks;
18month Fr - qty 10 - 425kg - €700
18month Fr - qty 2 - 380kg - €585