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Why are men more homophobic compared to women?

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  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Andreas77 wrote: »
    For years I had mild phobia of two males kissing or making love. Interlocking square jaws with malocclusions and stubble was something that caused deep seated anxiousness and if I would see two males kissing on public transport I would retch and quiver. Image of oversized male tongues curling around and sucking on each other's tips like the tongues of suckling calves made me dizzy. Plus, there was issue of gaping anuses, dark black holes wide open on freckled white bottoms, which were being spat into with silvery wet lines of saliva. Apart from that I was disturbed by dilation tools (ex. cupcake holders) and the ingestion of reproductive juices. Basically I was a regular man. When ex-wife left me to be with crèche owner I went though midlife crisis. At this point in life I had two city bikes, two cars, an expensive collection of air rifles, several thousand euros in artist’s oil paints, brushes, and tools, and was renting 800 Euro a month top floor apartment in historic building with six hob gas stove, industrial sized stainless steel fridge, industrial grade rotating ceiling fan, top of line Denon Hi Fi system with independent amplifier and mahogany enclosed Epos speakers, CD collection of approximately 500 albums and 100 Singles, beautiful deep sinks ripped out from county home, mid-range skiing equipment, and a personal computer. Suddenly my whole life was turned upside down and I had not a leg to stand on. Everything I held dear was turned on it’s head. At this point I decided to hunt for women in local classified (this was before dating apps). I found suitable women also looking for night of continuous penetration and she invited me to her home after we met for spritz in cocktail bar on neighbouring block. This lady was Asian, very attractive, and she started to prepare some food as I sat on settee with glass of lager admiring her body shape. She was making a stir-fry, which believe it or not was very unusual in those days, certainly in my circles. She included bamboo, carrot, onion, sultanas, chilli peppers, purple sprouting broccoli, ginger, garlic, coconut milk , Himalayan salt, freshly crushed black pepper, all served on a bed of basmati rice. All the while I was watching her cook I noticed something very strange about the way she has moved her hips and booty, or when she reached for the sieve, and when she has shaken the pot to loosen up the basmati rice she was steaming on the hob. At some point when I was eating dinner I realise that this woman was actually a man but actually I was already infatuated. She was more feminine then any woman I met before or since apart from ex-wife. We had sex ten times over two nights.

    Jesus.

    I must get a thorough assessment of how I shake the rice. That's a euphemism, right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    People don't choose what they find repulsive any more than they choose who or what they find attractive. It's shockingly narrow minded to judge people for a perfectly natural thought.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,735 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Is there any way to filter out threads on these sort of BS topics???? Why are people obsessed on discussing every intricate detail on the subject.

    Not posting on them would be a good start.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭wiggle16


    Andreas77 wrote: »
    For years I had mild phobia of two males kissing or making love. Interlocking square jaws with malocclusions and stubble was something that caused deep seated anxiousness and if I would see two males kissing on public transport I would retch and quiver. Image of oversized male tongues curling around and sucking on each other's tips like the tongues of suckling calves made me dizzy. Plus, there was issue of gaping anuses, dark black holes wide open on freckled white bottoms, which were being spat into with silvery wet lines of saliva. Apart from that I was disturbed by dilation tools (ex. cupcake holders) and the ingestion of reproductive juices. Basically I was a regular man. When ex-wife left me to be with crèche owner I went though midlife crisis. At this point in life I had two city bikes, two cars, an expensive collection of air rifles, several thousand euros in artist’s oil paints, brushes, and tools, and was renting 800 Euro a month top floor apartment in historic building with six hob gas stove, industrial sized stainless steel fridge, industrial grade rotating ceiling fan, top of line Denon Hi Fi system with independent amplifier and mahogany enclosed Epos speakers, CD collection of approximately 500 albums and 100 Singles, beautiful deep sinks ripped out from county home, mid-range skiing equipment, and a personal computer. Suddenly my whole life was turned upside down and I had not a leg to stand on. Everything I held dear was turned on it’s head. At this point I decided to hunt for women in local classified (this was before dating apps). I found suitable women also looking for night of continuous penetration and she invited me to her home after we met for spritz in cocktail bar on neighbouring block. This lady was Asian, very attractive, and she started to prepare some food as I sat on settee with glass of lager admiring her body shape. She was making a stir-fry, which believe it or not was very unusual in those days, certainly in my circles. She included bamboo, carrot, onion, sultanas, chilli peppers, purple sprouting broccoli, ginger, garlic, coconut milk , Himalayan salt, freshly crushed black pepper, all served on a bed of basmati rice. All the while I was watching her cook I noticed something very strange about the way she has moved her hips and booty, or when she reached for the sieve, and when she has shaken the pot to loosen up the basmati rice she was steaming on the hob. At some point when I was eating dinner I realise that this woman was actually a man but actually I was already infatuated. She was more feminine then any woman I met before or since apart from ex-wife. We had sex ten times over two nights.

    Can I be a character in your erotic novel?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,387 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    I was disappointed that he only had mid range skis. No way would I want continuous penetration with someone who only had mid range skis. I think he should work on his freckle phobia, also.


    But otherwise, seems legit to me.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Andreas77 wrote: »
    She was more feminine then any woman I met before or since apart from ex-wife. We had sex ten times over two nights.

    I'm assuming she was transgender.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I was disappointed that he only had mid range skis. No way would I want continuous penetration with someone who only had mid range skis. I think he should work on his freckle phobia, also.


    But otherwise, seems legit to me.

    Six burners on his stove though. I'm pretty much sold on that part alone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,387 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Candie wrote: »
    Six burners on his stove though. I'm pretty much sold on that part alone.
    Six burners, and all he got was a friggin stir fry!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    I think it's a tired, tedious, old school, backwards, shockingly narrow mined and unhealthy attitude to have.

    The poster is saying that he is repulsed. That’s a true fact of nature for him. If he doesn’t act on it or it doesn’t affect his voting etc what is it to you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Hobosan


    For some individuals, farts are used a sign of affection.

    I doubt anyone will seriously try to shame others for being repulsed by that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Reviews and Books Galore


    Probably because people associate male/male sex with anal sex.

    And pedofikia rape and bestiality.

    Also, women can be quire homophobic tbh towards lesbians in a passive excluding way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,124 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I saw this when I went to school and sort of see this in college. It seems that lads have a problem with a man who may find them attractive compared to a woman. And both men/women generally who disapprove of LGBT rights are more opposed to gay men than gay women.

    The trend is virtually the same in every culture on earth. Why?

    We're all going to just have to face the fact that straight men are, naturally, just a bit weirded out by male homosexual sexual acts and straight women are, naturally, just a bit weirded out by female homosexual acts <- this is more prevalent than you think and even fag hags will have their limit, trust me.

    This isn't really a bad thing, in and of itself, though. It's not the end of the world to be, yes, "repulsed" by this. And it's not "homophobia" either. But, it does exist.

    As for the people you know who are "disapproving" of LGBT rights, well, they might have issues that go beyond that.

    Hey, ya know what, the gay blokes I know are "disgusted" by vaginas.

    But, sure that's grand isn't it.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    And pedofikia rape and bestiality.

    Also, women can be quire homophobic tbh towards lesbians in a passive excluding way.

    I have never associated gay men with paedophilia or bestiality more than I would any other group. It's an association often posited by homophobes, but the rest of society doesn't seem to make the same connection.

    I can't say I've ever encountered what you mention in our second statement.


  • Registered Users Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Hobosan


    The mechanism for foot fetishes comes about when the brains 'wiring' for being attracted to breasts, for example, is close by to the wiring for the the functioning of feet, which can cause overlap.

    (I'm only using breasts as a hypothetical, I can't remember exactly what the proximity of wiring was. It could have been vagina and feet or something.)

    A researcher on phantom limbs made many of these discoveries, as he gained a unique insight to the brain when working with patients whose former circuitry changed when they lost a limb.

    Many attractions, fetishes or repulsions are down to pure chance. Your frontal lobes might thank me for this information!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Still waters


    I would tend to be repulsed by male gay sex and the female gay sex that doesn't include 2 sexy lesbians, not the lesbians that play gaa or rugby, the good looking kind that work for pornhub, simply because im not gay, im also not homophobic


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Reviews and Books Galore


    nthclare wrote: »
    I'm bi myself and I can assure you there's plenty of homophobic women out there.

    I would date a straight or bi woman no problem.

    But generally I only date bi women, because it makes more sense to me and they're more comfortable with bi guy's...

    I like the boho style arty types of women...

    I only go for 40+ silver rugged foxes inked and strong, not interested in clean cut jocks and hipster's

    Everyone's happy then.

    Yes, I have heard of women being super anti bi men


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,124 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I would tend to be repulsed by male gay sex and the female gay sex that doesn't include 2 sexy lesbians, not the lesbians that play gaa or rugby, the good looking kind that work for pornhub, simply because im not gay, im also not homophobic

    Porn is a fantasy. It's not "sex".

    I'm sorry to tell you that in the real world, the sexy lesbians that are interested in you joining in don't exist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 964 ✭✭✭Reviews and Books Galore


    Candie wrote: »
    I have never associated gay men with paedophilia or bestiality more than I would any other group. It's an association often posited by homophobes, but the rest of society doesn't seem to make the same connection.

    I can't say I've ever encountered what you mention in our second statement.

    They did in the past in America, Victorian England and they still do in Slavic Europe. The bestiality actually might be a stretch but the rape and pedofilia actually isn't.

    In regards to the second statement, I know a lit of women who are on edge around lesbian women and do not really include then on nights out and girl time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    If someone could post what way we're supposed to think, that'd be great.


    (Not your man with the 6 skis obviously)


  • Registered Users Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Hobosan


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Porn is a fantasy. It's not "sex".

    I'm sorry to tell you that in the real world, the sexy lesbians that are interested in you joining in don't exist.

    If that doesn't shame him out of liking beautiful women, nothing will.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Wibbs wrote: »
    1) I'd not tell two gay lads they're "repulsive", nor would I seek to hinder them in any way. Good luck to them. 2) The "queasy" is near about the same for two women snogging. 3) now society may want to try to police my thoughts and feelings, but society will be told to fcuk off in short order.

    Fair enough you have not used that language but even to be told your lifestyle makes someone else queasy would make anyone feel belittled. It's not the same as your jellied eels analogy earlier. I'm not trying to police your thoughts. But you haven't said why it makes you feel uneasy, which was the OP's question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,124 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Hobosan wrote: »
    If that doesn't shame him out of liking beautiful women, nothing will.

    Not trying to "shame" anybody into anything. :pac:

    But, pro tip, real lesbians (beautiful or otherwise) are more interested in your girlfriend or wife than they are you.

    Life's tough.

    Whaddayagonnado

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Mod

    Banned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,695 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    If someone could post what way we're supposed to think, that'd be great.


    (Not your man with the 6 skis obviously)


    I think you’re supposed to defend men against the OP’s assertion that men are more homophobic than women?

    I dunno, can’t be arsed myself tbh :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,124 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    tenor.gif

    :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    But you haven't said why it makes you feel uneasy, which was the OP's question.
    I'm a straight man. I am exclusively sexually attracted to women. I am sexually repulsed by men at a visceral level. Hence seeing two men act in a sexual manner with each other causes a negative reaction in me. With two women acting in a sexual manner this is lessened(if I consider them attractive), because again I am sexually attracted to women, so it's less of a stretch. Simples.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Hobosan


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Not trying to "shame" anybody into anything. :pac:

    But, pro tip, real lesbians (beautiful or otherwise) are more interested in your girlfriend or wife than they are you.

    Life's tough.

    Whaddayagonnado

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Well if you stopped and thought for a few seconds, you might remember the fact there is a B on LGBT.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,124 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Hobosan wrote: »
    Well if you stopped and thought for a few seconds, you might remember the fact there is a B on LGBT.

    the "B's" aren't "L's" though.

    ;)


    Lesbians are only interested in other women.


  • Registered Users Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Hobosan


    Tony EH wrote: »
    the "B's" aren't "L's" though.

    ;)


    Lesbians are only interested in other women.

    I'm going to... go out on a limb... and assume the OP isn't so concerned whether these beautiful women are bisexual or lesbian.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭mr_fegelien


    My mother thinks being gay is a "fad" because most gay people she has seen are under 20. She comes from a conserative African country and doesn't know any openly gay people her age.

    It's confirmation bias because of the stigma of being gay but even here, I must admit, I rarely see 50+ lesbian women. You would think you'd see more of them.


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