Why are men more homophobic compared to women?

Wibbs · 26-08-2019 04:17PM

FunLover18 wrote: »

Fair play to the people who voted for gay marriage and admit to enjoying seeing two women kiss. But that doesn't mean it's ok for you to then describe two men kissing as "repulsive" or "revolting", that's very strong language. If it makes you uncomfortable that's understandable to a point but that's your problem and has nothing to do with the activity.

I'd have no issue with describing two men snogging as personally repulsive to me(two women not far off tbh). It's my opinion, not a problem, so long as I don't seek to repress someone over it. Watching someone eating something like jellied eels is repulsive to me too, it doesn't mean I have anything against some Cockneys or wish to repress them.

jaxxx · 26-08-2019 04:17PM

Wibbs wrote: »

No, men are not idiots. Work away if you feel the need to self describe as one, but don't tar all men with that brush.

Really? Look at history. Look at the state of the world today. For most of human history it was men that headed the world. And look where we are today because of it. The world on the brink of environmental collapse. Constant acts of violence against ourselves. Breathe all of that in, then tell me men are not idiots.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 26-08-2019 04:22PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

A lot of men have very high “opinions” of themselves. They think all the gay lads will be mad for them and it scares them a little.

The ones whom it “turns on” tend to act out and condemn the gay community, hiding behind religion or other smoke screens.

Some of these “closeted” gentlemen will never come to terms with their sexuality and they’ll just get angrier and angrier. A miserable, hate-filled, existence.

That “is” a good “point”.

Wibbs · 26-08-2019 04:24PM

jaxxx wrote: »

Really? Look at history. Look at the state of the world today. For most of human history it was men that headed the world. And look where we are today because of it. The world on the brink of environmental collapse. Constant acts of violence against ourselves. Breathe all of that in, then tell me men are not idiots.

Oh for fcuk's sake. :rolleyes: Talk about a bloody ridiculous position. I suppose it's an easy position if one's life is easy, and trust me your life is easy. By being born and raised in the first world it's a near given.

Look around you in your life. Pretty much everything you see and use and enjoy, pretty much every freedom you hold dear and take for granted, pretty much every advancement that makes your life and the world an easier place to be alive, the very bloody device you're spouting this rubbish on and the roof over your head and the paths under your feet, have been thought of, built, and defended by a man/men. Not too bad for "idiots".

Jmsg · 26-08-2019 04:30PM

jaxxx wrote: »

Really? Look at history. Look at the state of the world today. For most of human history it was men that headed the world. And look where we are today because of it. The world on the brink of environmental collapse. Constant acts of violence against ourselves. Breathe all of that in, then tell me men are not idiots.

Exterminate us all then and see what happens. It'll be communist manifestos at the helm, instant revolution and cheering "wooooo the trouble really was the men after all". 2 weeks later however, the schizophrenia would set in and there would be mass suicides. Femininity has just as much a pathological aspect to it as does masculinity. In fact, I'd argue a lot of the contemporary problems of society are due to our now being possessed by a feminized spirit.

ToddyDoody · 26-08-2019 04:33PM

Jmsg wrote: »

2 weeks later however, the schizophrenia would set in and there would be mass suicides.

One for the feminists.

Church on Tuesday · 26-08-2019 04:33PM

Wibbs wrote: »

I'd have no issue with describing two men snogging as personally repulsive to me(two women not far off tbh). It's my opinion, not a problem, so long as I don't seek to repress someone over it. Watching someone eating something like jellied eels is repulsive to me too, it doesn't mean I have anything against some Cockneys or wish to repress them.

It's not exactly my bag either but it's way to extreme to consider it repulsive.

ToddyDoody · 26-08-2019 04:36PM

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

It's not exactly my bag either but it's way to extreme to consider it repulsive.

It is my bag on occasion. I happened upon an Italian instagram which i bookmarked as I thought they captured them well just yesterday.

https://www.instagram.com/twinkitalia

But honestly in my case the gay thing is a very small part of my identity.

FunLover18 · 26-08-2019 04:41PM

ELM327 wrote: »

If that's what they feel then they should be allowed to express their feelings?
I'd be the same vein. Voted for gay marriage, no problem with lesbians, but, while they are perfectly entitled to love whoever they choose, there's no changing the fact that it makes me queasy to see two men kissing.

Like I said, it's understandable to a point. PDAs make me uncomfortable in general regardless of the genders of those involved. But I think people should be careful what language they use when expressing their feelings. I can't imagine it's very nice to have your lifestyle described as revolting. I'm not trying to cause offence or take it but in this instance the issue is not two men kissing but your attitude towards it. You're in an ideal position to answering the OP's question. Why does it make you queasy but two women doesn't?

Wibbs · 26-08-2019 04:42PM

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

It's not exactly my bag either but it's way to extreme to consider it repulsive.

It's not a consideration on my part, that would suggest a thought process that brought me to that conclusion, instead it's a visceral reaction. Like I said so long as I don't wish to repress people over such a thing as far as I'm concerned big deal.

FunLover18 · 26-08-2019 04:43PM

Wibbs wrote: »

I'd have no issue with describing two men snogging as personally repulsive to me(two women not far off tbh). It's my opinion, not a problem, so long as I don't seek to repress someone over it. Watching someone eating something like jellied eels is repulsive to me too, it doesn't mean I have anything against some Cockneys or wish to repress them.

See my response to ELM327.

Hobosan · 26-08-2019 04:44PM

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

It's not exactly my bag either but it's way to extreme to consider it repulsive.

Repulsion is not a reasoned position. You can't just think it away.

Sure, I could get all my protein from eating bugs from the back garden. It would be great for the environment if we all did that, and there are many tribes who do.

That's not going to make my repulsion to eating spiders decline.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 26-08-2019 04:47PM

Is there any way to filter out threads on these sort of BS topics???? Why are people obsessed on discussing every intricate detail on the subject.

Church on Tuesday · 26-08-2019 04:48PM

Wibbs wrote: »

It's not a consideration on my part, that would suggest a thought process that brought me to that conclusion, instead it's a visceral reaction. Like I said so long as I don't wish to repress people over such a thing as far as I'm concerned big deal.

Two men kissing is completely natural, there's nothing repulsive about it at all.

Jmsg · 26-08-2019 04:48PM

FunLover18 wrote: »

Like I said, it's understandable to a point. PDAs make me uncomfortable in general regardless of the genders of those involved. But I think people should be careful what language they use when expressing their feelings. I can't imagine it's very nice to have your lifestyle described as revolting. I'm not trying to cause offence or take it but in this instance the issue is not two men kissing but your attitude towards it. You're in an ideal position to answering the OP's question. Why does it make you queasy but two women doesn't?

It's a fact that homosexual sexual activity triggers a disgust response in heterosexual men. To say otherwise is simply to lie. Maybe in an ideal world it would be responded to by mere neutral indifference, but that's not how things operate.

Wibbs · 26-08-2019 04:48PM

FunLover18 wrote: »

See my response to ELM327.

1) I'd not tell two gay lads they're "repulsive", nor would I seek to hinder them in any way. Good luck to them. 2) The "queasy" is near about the same for two women snogging. 3) now society may want to try to police my thoughts and feelings, but society will be told to fcuk off in short order.

Ironicname · 26-08-2019 04:49PM

Church on Tuesday wrote:

It's not exactly my bag either but it's way to extreme to consider it repulsive.

Why? If that's how the poster feels, he is entitled to feel like that. Just because you personally don't find it repulsive doesn't mean it's too extreme for someone else to.

FunLover18 wrote:

But I think people should be careful what language they use when expressing their feelings. I can't imagine it's very nice to have your lifestyle described as revolting. I'm not trying to cause offence or take it but in this instance the issue is not two men kissing but your attitude towards it. You're in an ideal position to answering the OP's question. Why does it make you queasy but two women doesn't?

Because to straight men, watching two women is pleasing. Watching two men isn't.

If it makes someone uncomfortable or even repulsed, that's totally fine as long as that person doesnt try to prevent the two men from being allowed to do what they are doing.

Church on Tuesday · 26-08-2019 04:49PM

Hobosan wrote: »

Repulsion is not a reasoned position. You can't just think it away.

Sure, I could get all my protein from eating bugs from the back garden. It would be great for the environment if we all did that, and there are many tribes who do.

That's not going to make my repulsion to eating spiders decline.

Nonsense. We are talking about a sign of affection between two men, not pest control.

Ironicname · 26-08-2019 04:49PM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote:

Is there any way to filter out threads on these sort of BS topics???? Why are people obsessed on discussing every intricate detail on the subject.

Yeah. You can not comment on them.

Tell me how · 26-08-2019 04:51PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

Some of the worst homophobes are deeply closeted gay men...I suggest you read "In the Closet of The Vatican"...the older you get the more you realise how complex and flawed human nature is and always will be, men and women are different and have different attitudes to the more challenging complexities like abortion or homosexuality, it's not as black and white as some believe.

I can see how women would have different attitudes to men (as a group) in relation to abortion but I don't see how it would necessarily apply for homosexuality.

Agree though on homophobes and being closeted. There was a story earlier this year of David Matheson, a former gay conversion therapist in the US, announcing that he was himself gay.

We see so many topics suggesting gender defines a view or position and I would argue that it is more likely environment which helps form that opinion rather than your gender. You put a female child in to a family environment where the leaders are overtly homophobic, that child is as likely to be homophobic as if they were a boy.
Maybe because males often were more in environments where making uncouth statements were tolerated (again because of environment rather than gender) more males grew to express their views more readily than females.

ToddyDoody · 26-08-2019 04:51PM

Ironicname wrote: »

Yeah. You can not comment on them.

As always, we're here to generate a consensus.

Ironicname · 26-08-2019 04:52PM

Church on Tuesday wrote:

Nonsense. We are talking about a sign of affection between two men, not pest control.

So you think that if another man is repulsed by the sight of two men kissing, it's unreasonable because you don't feel that way?

Hobosan · 26-08-2019 04:53PM

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Nonsense. We are talking about a sign of affection between two men, not pest control.

Apologies, I thought we were talking about repulsion.

Church on Tuesday · 26-08-2019 04:56PM

Hobosan wrote: »

Apologies, I thought we were talking about repulsion.

Ah don't be like that.

Church on Tuesday · 26-08-2019 04:59PM

Ironicname wrote: »

So you think that if another man is repulsed by the sight of two men kissing, it's unreasonable because you don't feel that way?

I think it's a tired, tedious, old school, backwards, shockingly narrow mined and unhealthy attitude to have.

Ironicname · 26-08-2019 05:04PM

Church on Tuesday wrote:

I think it's a tired, tedious, old school, backwards, shockingly narrow mined and unhealthy attitude to have.

Cool. But others are entitled to feel differently?

Andreas77 · 26-08-2019 05:04PM

For years I had mild phobia of two males kissing or making love. Interlocking square jaws with malocclusions and stubble was something that caused deep seated anxiousness and if I would see two males kissing on public transport I would retch and quiver. Image of oversized male tongues curling around and sucking on each other's tips like the tongues of suckling calves made me dizzy. Plus, there was issue of gaping anuses, dark black holes wide open on freckled white bottoms, which were being spat into with silvery wet lines of saliva. Apart from that I was disturbed by dilation tools (ex. cupcake holders) and the ingestion of reproductive juices. Basically I was a regular man. When ex-wife left me to be with crèche owner I went though midlife crisis. At this point in life I had two city bikes, two cars, an expensive collection of air rifles, several thousand euros in artist’s oil paints, brushes, and tools, and was renting 800 Euro a month top floor apartment in historic building with six hob gas stove, industrial sized stainless steel fridge, industrial grade rotating ceiling fan, top of line Denon Hi Fi system with independent amplifier and mahogany enclosed Epos speakers, CD collection of approximately 500 albums and 100 Singles, beautiful deep sinks ripped out from county home, mid-range skiing equipment, and a personal computer. Suddenly my whole life was turned upside down and I had not a leg to stand on. Everything I held dear was turned on it’s head. At this point I decided to hunt for women in local classified (this was before dating apps). I found suitable women also looking for night of continuous penetration and she invited me to her home after we met for spritz in cocktail bar on neighbouring block. This lady was Asian, very attractive, and she started to prepare some food as I sat on settee with glass of lager admiring her body shape. She was making a stir-fry, which believe it or not was very unusual in those days, certainly in my circles. She included bamboo, carrot, onion, sultanas, chilli peppers, purple sprouting broccoli, ginger, garlic, coconut milk , Himalayan salt, freshly crushed black pepper, all served on a bed of basmati rice. All the while I was watching her cook I noticed something very strange about the way she has moved her hips and booty, or when she reached for the sieve, and when she has shaken the pot to loosen up the basmati rice she was steaming on the hob. At some point when I was eating dinner I realise that this woman was actually a man but actually I was already infatuated. She was more feminine then any woman I met before or since apart from ex-wife. We had sex ten times over two nights.

Wibbs · 26-08-2019 05:09PM

Andreas77 wrote: »

For years I had mild phobia of two males kissing or making love. Interlocking square jaws with malocclusions and stubble was something that caused deep seated anxiousness and if I would see two males kissing on public transport I would retch and quiver. Image of oversized male tongues curling around each other and sucking on the tips like the tongues of suckling calves made me dizzy. Plus, there was issue of gaping anuses, dark black holes wide open on freckled white bottoms, which were being spat into with silvery wet lines of saliva. Apart from that I was disturbed by dilation tools (ex. cupcake holders) and the ingestion of reproductive juices. Basically I was a regular man. When ex-wife left me to be with cre owner I went though midlife crisis. At this point in life I had two city bikes, two cars, an expensive collection of air rifles, several thousand euros in artist’s oil paints, brushes, and tools, and was renting 800 Euro a month top floor apartment in historic building with six hob gas stove, industrial sized stainless steel fridge, industrial grade rotating ceiling fan, top of line Denon Hi Fi system with independent amplifier and mahogany enclosed Epos speakers, CD collection of approximately 500 albums and 100 Singles, beautiful deep sinks ripped out from county home, mid-range skiing equipment, and a personal computer. Suddenly my whole life was turned upside down and I had not a leg to stand on. Everything I held dear was turned on it’s head. At this point I decided to hunt for women in local classified (this was before dating apps). I found suitable women also looking for night of continuous penetration and she invited me to her home after we met for spritz in cocktail bar on neighbouring block. This lady was Asian, very attractive, and she started to prepare some food as I sat on settee with glass of lager admiring her body shape. She was making a stir-fry, which believe it or not was very unusual in those days, certainly in my circles. She included bamboo, carrot, onion, sultanas, chilli peppers, purple sprouting broccoli, ginger, garlic, coconut milk , Himalayan salt, freshly crushed black pepper, all served on a bed of basmati rice. All the while I was watching her cook I noticed something very strange about the way she has moved her hips and booty, or when she reached for the sieve, and when she has shaken the pot to loosen up the basmati rice she was steaming on the hob. At some point when I was eating dinner I realise that this woman was actually a man but actually I was already infatuated. She was more feminine then any woman I met before or since apart from ex-wife. We had sex ten times over two nights.

"gaping anuses, dark black holes wide open on freckled white bottoms, which were being spat into with silvery wet lines of saliva. Apart from that I was disturbed by dilation tools (ex. cupcake holders) and the ingestion of reproductive juices/suitable women also looking for night of continuous penetration"... "Basically I was a regular man." Eh.... not going on your posts. Y'know going on said previous posts I reckon keeping this pic link in my clipboard will prove useful.

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Ironicname · 26-08-2019 05:10PM

Andreas77 wrote:

For years I had mild phobia of two males kissing or making love. Interlocking square jaws with malocclusions and stubble was something that caused deep seated anxiousness and if I would see two males kissing on public transport I would retch and quiver. Image of oversized male tongues curling around and sucking on each other's tips like the tongues of suckling calves made me dizzy. Plus, there was issue of gaping anuses, dark black holes wide open on freckled white bottoms, which were being spat into with silvery wet lines of saliva. Apart from that I was disturbed by dilation tools (ex. cupcake holders) and the ingestion of reproductive juices. Basically I was a regular man. When ex-wife left me to be with crÃ¨che owner I went though midlife crisis. At this point in life I had two city bikes, two cars, an expensive collection of air rifles, several thousand euros in artistâ€™s oil paints, brushes, and tools, and was renting 800 Euro a month top floor apartment in historic building with six hob gas stove, industrial sized stainless steel fridge, industrial grade rotating ceiling fan, top of line Denon Hi Fi system with independent amplifier and mahogany enclosed Epos speakers, CD collection of approximately 500 albums and 100 Singles, beautiful deep sinks ripped out from county home, mid-range skiing equipment, and a personal computer. Suddenly my whole life was turned upside down and I had not a leg to stand on. Everything I held dear was turned on itâ€™s head. At this point I decided to hunt for women in local classified (this was before dating apps). I found suitable women also looking for night of continuous penetration and she invited me to her home after we met for spritz in cocktail bar on neighbouring block. This lady was Asian, very attractive, and she started to prepare some food as I sat on settee with glass of lager admiring her body shape. She was making a stir-fry, which believe it or not was very unusual in those days, certainly in my circles. She included bamboo, carrot, onion, sultanas, chilli peppers, purple sprouting broccoli, ginger, garlic, coconut milk , Himalayan salt, freshly crushed black pepper, all served on a bed of basmati rice. All the while I was watching her cook I noticed something very strange about the way she has moved her hips and booty, or when she reached for the sieve, and when she has shaken the pot to loosen up the basmati rice she was steaming on the hob. At some point when I was eating dinner I realise that this woman was actually a man but actually I was already infatuated. She was more feminine then any woman I met before or since apart from ex-wife. We had sex ten times over two nights.

Erm.... Ok?

ToddyDoody · 26-08-2019 05:12PM

What's happening, where am I?

Why are men more homophobic compared to women?

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