The death knell of the Irish Language

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 24-08-2019 04:55PM

riclad wrote: »

Its the language of the irish state,
i have never received any letter or bill in
irish , i think there,s very few gardai who are fluent in irish.
Maybe i should stop paying my bills unless they are written in irish as a form of protest.
If you live in france i think all official government letters you receive would be written in irish .
if you write to a french official you would be expected to write in the french language.
I think maybe less than 10 per cent of irish people can hold a casual conversation in irish , I exclude teachers or tg4 presenters who are paid to speak it as part of their job.
maybe its like trad irish music ,
If ordinary irish people do not use it or practise it it will decline
no matter what some government body or committee doe,s .

You can get any documentation in Irish from the government at least.

I doubt if French people if officials speak Irish, maybe you mean French. Of course they do but France is not officially bilingual. Canada is and documentation is produced in both French and English. Even on the west coast where English is utterly dominant the signs can be in French and English. The welcome sign as you cross into Canada south of Vancouver is in English and French. Bienvenue au Canada.

24-08-2019 04:57PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

A risible suggestion. Do you really believe “native” Irish speakers in the Gaeltacht regions are sitting around their kitchen tables gabbing away “as béarla” but then they suddenly switch to Irish as someone passes the house? Living in fear that the mean old state “Cigire” is going to pounce and cut off their big juicy grant money. Come on.

They speak Irish at home and when around family/friends. The only time they won’t is when they’re with someone who doesn’t even have the “cúpla focal”. To do otherwise would just be plain rude.

Sure the ones “out West” are a strange, dark, people but what you’re saying comes across as at best naive and at worst disingenuous.

im telling you thats exactly what happens.

and not "someone", but an cigire

and they know when hes coming

and he knows who to call to.

the whole thing is a joke and its a well known joke.

Stop moaning ffs · 24-08-2019 04:58PM

Just to add you can get any form for any interaction with government from revenue to social welfare to planning, in Irish. So that point is moot.

janfebmar · 24-08-2019 05:03PM

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Just to add you can get any form for any interaction with government from revenue to social welfare to planning, in Irish. So that point is moot.

You can get your Aunt to have a sex change operation too, so she is not always your Aunt, so that point is moot. Who pays for all the translators ?

Stop moaning ffs · 24-08-2019 05:04PM

janfebmar wrote: »

You can get your Aunt to have a sex change operation too, so she is not always your Aunt, so that point is moot. Who pays for all the translators ?

Wackadoodle screwball scrambles as always. Never change

24-08-2019 05:04PM

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Just to add you can get any form for any interaction with government from revenue to social welfare to planning, in Irish. So that point is moot.

its not a primary language, there is no such distinction

its one of two official languages

the fact that you can and must be able to transact in Irish in any one of a number of official operations is another item that should absolutely be looked at and scrapped, its far from a moot point and certainly supports nothing in terms of actual demand for usage

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 24-08-2019 05:05PM

janfebmar wrote: »

You can get your Aunt to have a sex change operation too, so she is not always your Aunt, so that point is moot. Who pays for all the translators ?

How is that statement in any way relevant to the previous argument. Who pays? The Irish taxpayer. As you know.

Stop moaning ffs · 24-08-2019 05:06PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

its not a primary language, there is no such distinction

its one of two official languages

the fact that you can and must be able to transact in Irish in any one of a number of official operations is another item that should absolutely be looked at and scrapped, its far from a moot point and certainly supports nothing in terms of actual demand for usage

Split hairs in a fleas pubes all you want. Irish is the official language of the state.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 24-08-2019 05:06PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

its not a primary language, there is no such distinction

its one of two official languages

the fact that you can and must be able to transact in Irish in any one of a number of official operations is another item that should absolutely be looked at and scrapped, its far from a moot point and certainly supports nothing in terms of actual demand for usage

Its the first official language. Ireland needs a civics lesson.

24-08-2019 05:09PM

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Split hairs in a fleas pubes all you want. Irish is the official language of the state.

sorry there

nobody was splitting hairs until you went claiming an official status of primacy that does not exist

and if you want me to split hairs, "the" makes your statement incorrect.

it is "an" official language of the state.

24-08-2019 05:10PM

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Its the first official language. Ireland needs a civics lesson.

no such designation

Ken. · 24-08-2019 05:12PM

There is nothing wrong with the Irish language except for the way its taught. I had 2 thick spud munchers from Kerry try to beat this sh!t in to us when in primary. Never had a love for it after.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 24-08-2019 05:21PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

no such designation

Literally article 8 of the constitution.

Stop moaning ffs · 24-08-2019 05:22PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

sorry there

nobody was splitting hairs until you went claiming an official status of primacy that does not exist

and if you want me to split hairs, "the" makes your statement incorrect.

it is "an" official language of the state.

Be as wrong as you like. It’s a free country.

24-08-2019 05:25PM

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Literally article 8 of the constitution.

drumroll

I, an message board poster, engaged in an online argument on this the 24th day August, 2019, was completely incorrect and comprehensively schooled by the above poster.

ffs. when did they change that on us?

IAMAMORON · 24-08-2019 05:25PM

I have found that whenever I am making love to women from the Gaeltacht it has helped as a knicker dropper to have the cupla focal.... Whilst I have struggled to help them reach orgasm through penetrative sex alone, I have found being able to whisper sweet nothings in their ear as Gaelige mid coitus has got a good few Gaeil speaking females over the line... I am sure of it.

So as long as the language is enabling its' speakers to have orgasms I can't really see it having a problem.

They should teach that in school also.

Go raibh maith agaibh.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 24-08-2019 05:26PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

drumroll

I, an message board poster, engaged in an online argument on this the 24th day August, 2019, was completely incorrect and comprehensively schooled by the above poster.

ffs. when did they change that on us?

Always been there. Kudos for admitting the mistake.

24-08-2019 05:28PM

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Always been there. Kudos for admitting the mistake.

bad enough to be wrong and an ass without continuing in it tbf

and heh im still not admitting anything about the merits of the language in ongoing use or anything!

martinedwards · 24-08-2019 05:31PM

What the Irish language needs is a bunch of protestants to champion it.

Just like the last time it nearly died out.

Presbyterian William Neilson, and Douglas Hyde, the son of a Church of Ireland rector, were instrumental in founding the Gaelic League. Otherwise it'd have died out in the 1890s.

Stop moaning ffs · 24-08-2019 05:36PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I have found that whenever I am making love to women from the Gaeltacht it has helped as a knicker dropper to have the cupla focal.... Whilst I have struggled to help them reach orgasm through penetrative sex alone, I have found being able to whisper sweet nothings in their ear as Gaelige mid coitus has got a good few Gaeil speaking females over the line... I am sure of it.

So as long as the language is enabling its' speakers to have orgasms I can't really see it having a problem.

They should teach that in school also.

Go raibh maith agaibh.

Go have sex with a Cork chick.

NONE OF YOUR FANCY STUFF BOY JUST HORSE IT INTO ME

IAMAMORON · 24-08-2019 05:39PM

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Go have sex with a Cork chick.

NONE OF YOUR FANCY STUFF BOY JUST HORSE IT INTO ME

I had the pleasure of nailing a babe from Ballincollig when I was in Greece some time ago. She was a bear in the sack and it was a truly enjoyable experience.

She had lovely energy.

Stop moaning ffs · 24-08-2019 05:40PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I had the pleasure of nailing a babe from Ballincollig when I was in Greece some time ago. She was a bear in the sack and it was a truly enjoyable experience.

She had lovely energy.

Mo dhuine uasail
You made me laugh out loud. Go raibh maith agat

IAMAMORON · 24-08-2019 05:42PM

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Mo dhuine uasail
You made me laugh out loud. Go raibh maith agat

na h'abair e

Ken. · 24-08-2019 06:07PM

Guys, provide a translation if you post in ANY language other than English.

Stop moaning ffs · 24-08-2019 06:22PM

Nosnon wrote: »

Guys, provide a translation if you post in ANY language other than English.

Come to are country speak are language

Looks and points over the water to make the self evident point

Ken. · 24-08-2019 06:28PM

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Come to are country speak are language

Looks and points over the water to make the self evident point

It's in the site rules. Post in English or provide a translation if you post in foreignise.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 24-08-2019 06:32PM

Nosnon wrote: »

Guys, provide a translation if you post in ANY language other than English.

Given the preceding posts, I'd really rather they didn't, to be honest! I really don't think we're missing anything, anyway.

AllForIt · 24-08-2019 06:53PM

I'm pretty sure I saw ya when you were down. Nice tache.

Stop moaning ffs · 24-08-2019 06:55PM

Nosnon wrote: »

It's in the site rules. Post in English or provide a translation if you post in foreignise.

Too many literal tranlastions.
You’d like none of them. Even though they weren’t insulting you apart from your ignorance of their meaning. Report away there.

It just said thanks. He replied no problem.

Loafing Oaf · 24-08-2019 07:26PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Whilst I have struggled to help them reach orgasm through penetrative sex alone, I have found being able to whisper sweet nothings in their ear as Gaelige mid coitus has got a good few Gaeil speaking females over the line... I am sure of it.

Mol an óige agus tiocfaidh sí:D "

Praise the youth and she will come

(translation provided for those who need it)

Definitely wasn't expecting to see any overlap between this thread and the female orgasms one:eek:

The death knell of the Irish Language

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