Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VI

StringerBell wrote: »

The 25th is a pipe dream

Maybe, but what politicians care about more than anything is their career. There will come a point when he is dragging them all down, when previously safe seats are no longer safe. I think we are reaching this point fast.

As an example, Eric Swalwell and John Hickenlooper both pulled out of the Democratic Presidential race relatively early and have sustained very little reputational damage. Both are polling high for their respective potential positions. That point is approaching fast for those who don't want to go down with Trump's ship. We may see some defections soon I suspect.

TomOnBoard wrote: »

Crazy stuff! There's another massive embarrassment in store for the US when this fool spouts more absolute gibberish at the G7 in France this weekend.

How the mighty have fallen!

It's like watching Frank Spencer at the G7, you just know it will be a total disaster. Putin and Xi both off his Christmas card list now, as well as all US allies of Europe, Australia and New Zealand, all waiting for the next President to take office. Even Fox News is turning on him.

Kin Jong Un still a friend, despite all those recent missile launches.

Well, at least those of us in Europe escape this madness, apart from those nuclear weapons Russia are pointing towards us, as we found out yesterday.

Manic Moran wrote: »

I've been on the road and out of the loop most of the last month, but what on Earth started this whole Greenland idiocy to begin with? Why did it pop into his head?

It's not a crazy idea at heart. Climate change will turn Greenland into a hospitable environment eventually, 70 years or so. It is rich in rare elements and natural consumable resources.

What is crazy is Trump's demented mind thinking he can buy it. It also is at odds with his denial of climate change, when it seems now he knows it to be true. That is the most disturbing part of this. That he is lying to everyone and allowing and enabling climate change to accelerate.

An intelligent President would engage Denmark into an offer of shouldering the economic support of Greenland with a view to sharing the spoils of the natural resources. Instead Trump called the Danish PM "nasty" and embarrassed himself worldwide hours before he goes to the G7 summit.

The rest is just a distraction from his terrible polling and his certain defeat in November 2020. Denmark is so yesterday. Check his twitter to update yourself.

The man is unhinged. He is wholly insulting women, jews and lgbt in the last 48 hours. He is shedding votes like a dog sheds hairs. Not a hope in hell he will serve another term, not a hope in hell.

And the cuffs are waiting for him, as per Mueller's testimony.

America will find redemption for decades when Trump is led away in handcuffs. THAT is the moment America changes forever. That is the moment the nostalgic middle aged white man no longer runs America. Just 16 months to go.

Manic Moran wrote: »

I've been on the road and out of the loop most of the last month, but what on Earth started this whole Greenland idiocy to begin with? Why did it pop into his head?

Thank god you're back. We haven't had someone credible defend Trump's idiotic and dangerous actions for days.

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Off you go then.

Dow Jones crushed again. Instability and insecurity abounds. All his mouthing about the economy, the stock market, all gone now. The US in a state of total confusion, total disgrace. A mess, a total mess.
Even his staunch defenders are gone now. It is a catastrophe.
Can we have an apology from Manic Moran for backing this total idiot? Manic Moran backed his gun policy before the murders in Dayton and El Paso. Manic Moran, are you going to apologise for your backing of Trump before these mass murders?

No?

Didn't think so.

Manic Moran blamed the father of the father and daughter drowned in that river. Manic Moran blamed the father for the death of his toddler daughter. This is what he said:

"Yes, he should have. So should have Obama before him. This mess has been festering for years, you may recall the border issue as being one of the signature issues which got Trump elected in the first place. Management by crisis seems to be standard operating procedure in a lot of the US, including the Federal Government.

I'm not sure where you're getting 'involved in the ongoing disgraceful treatment of children'. The problem is a lack of resources across the board. Insufficient patrolmen to both cover the open border and process personnel. Insufficient immigration judges to adjudicate asylum claims or handle deportation processes. Insufficient money and manpower to build adequate facilities. And so on. How can any legal measure taken to increase the resources available be a bad thing?"

He went on:

"Where's the stretch? The decision to remove the troops was made in direct response to Trump's describing the situation at the border as a crisis in the State of the Union address, and the politicians in question said as much. It seems to me that there is, in fact, a crisis at the border and the withdrawal of the troops was a stupid move made for purely political effect. What I am -not- saying is that the situation at the border as a whole is the fault of Democrats, they simply are not entirely free of blame for the staffing problem, and in the case of the Guard troops, directly responsible for that particular shortage. There is plenty enough blame to go around, the topic brought up by someone else was 'staffing'.

The few things the Guard cannot do are arrest migrants, process entrants at the border, and some of the associated paperwork. Everything else in the tail, from transporting materials, flying helicopters, running shooting qualification range and building or supporting the operation of detention centers, and whatever else you can think of to run an organisation is fair game. One border patrolman stuck in charge of the shooting range is one less patrolman able to process the applicants at a point of entry, resulting in the slower processing which led to the decision of Mr Martinez to cross the river. The fewer the guard engineers present, the slower centers can be expanded to take the capacity of the number of people detained. And so on. The use of the Guard is a short-term solution for a problem which can only be addressed over time by expansion of CBP, USCIS and HHS, but absent any better solutions being implemented, the politicization of the use of troops is part of the reason we now have the current problem."