Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

TheAnalyst_ · 15-08-2019 9:35pm

willowthewisp wrote: »

Is he retired now, or was he ever?

I think so. His famed left just doesn’t have the power any more.

EagererBeaver · 15-08-2019 9:48pm

Ah no, my brilliant Fr. Ted joke has gone in the bin.

rob316 · 16-08-2019 1:34pm

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but Conors left will never hurt me - Old man 2019

20-08-2019 8:35pm

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1ZZNdxocSU/

3 years to the day myself and this Mexican warrior went to war.
Congrats on the win this weekend Nate, it was motivating to see it for my own comeback. I don’t blame you not mentioning me for the trilogy bout post fight, you know what I’m like when I get going. Vicious.
I loved the round 3 style from round 1 that you implemented. It’s what I was hoping you would implement for this bout and was glad to see you do it.
I’ll be prepared for it when we go again. If we go again.
If not, respect always. A war for the ages. No bitch talk. Just real sh*t.

Not all black or white, good or bad. I liked it at least.
*Does not indicate I condone beating up of random pensioners in pubs. Or random anyone anywhere really.

The Rooster · 21-08-2019 7:30am

Seems a little disappointed Nate didn't give him a shout out!
Did Nate reply to the message?

Apart from his skills in the Octagon, if you were searching for a positive thing to say about McGregor, I think his analysis of other fights is usually very interesting. He'd make a decent studio analyst or even co-comm in the future (though not sure how the yanks cope with his accent!)

Doff · 21-08-2019 7:35am

Cali_girl wrote: »

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1ZZNdxocSU/

3 years to the day myself and this Mexican warrior went to war.
Congrats on the win this weekend Nate, it was motivating to see it for my own comeback. I don’t blame you not mentioning me for the trilogy bout post fight, you know what I’m like when I get going. Vicious.
I loved the round 3 style from round 1 that you implemented. It’s what I was hoping you would implement for this bout and was glad to see you do it.
I’ll be prepared for it when we go again. If we go again.
If not, respect always. A war for the ages. No bitch talk. Just real sh*t.

Not all black or white, good or bad. I liked it at least.
*Does not indicate I condone beating up of random pensioners in pubs. Or random anyone anywhere really.

Nate not calling him out has clearly got to him. He really needed that callout to put the focus back on his (in cage) fighting ability and his return to the octagon.

Man Vs ManUre · 21-08-2019 9:22am

Doff wrote: »

Nate not calling him out has clearly got to him. He really needed that callout to put the focus back on his (in cage) fighting ability and his return to the octagon.

I don’t think so. It was more a case of it being the 3 year anniversary coinciding with Nate’s victorious return, a fighter than Conor and his whole team have huge time and respect for. He also got a dig in at Khabib with the “real sh1t” line. He even seems to acknowledge his mistakes when he talks about his comeback. But he seems to accept that Nate 3 may not happen. I always think that years from now when they are both retired, the 2 of them will be long distance buddies and will cross paths in a good way on occasions.
I think with Conor he is just such an extreme individual, he can do extreme good and extreme bad.
I hope he comes back soon and gets back in favor with the fans, and the law!! It’s a shame to see his popularity diminish because of his own lifestyle choices.
I don’t think we will ever see the likes of 2015/16 again where 1 fighter brought us all along on that crazy and manic roller coaster ride, and he was Irish to make it even better.

JoeyJJ · 21-08-2019 9:41am

Long distance buddies are you serious? Conor still thinks he is better than Nate, that isn't a great basis for friendship ??

yourdeadwright · 21-08-2019 10:18am

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

I don’t think so. It was more a case of it being the 3 year anniversary coinciding with Nate’s victorious return, a fighter than Conor and his whole team have huge time and respect for. He also got a dig in at Khabib with the “real sh1t” line. He even seems to acknowledge his mistakes when he talks about his comeback. But he seems to accept that Nate 3 may not happen. I always think that years from now when they are both retired, the 2 of them will be long distance buddies and will cross paths in a good way on occasions.
I think with Conor he is just such an extreme individual, he can do extreme good and extreme bad.
I hope he comes back soon and gets back in favor with the fans, and the law!! It’s a shame to see his popularity diminish because of his own lifestyle choices.
I don’t think we will ever see the likes of 2015/16 again where 1 fighter brought us all along on that crazy and manic roller coaster ride, and he was Irish to make it even better.

I don't think you've watched enough of the Diaz brothers ,

Once a rival always a rival that how they are, them two don't make friends or don't let go of grudges, Its not a sport to them its fight,

Sure look at Nick he still hates GSP years later,

The Nal · 21-08-2019 10:30am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I don't think you've watched enough of the Diaz brothers ,

Once a rival always a rival that how they are, them two don't make friends or don't let go of grudges, Its not a sport to them its fight,

Yup.

Would love to see Nick back. Theres a lot of money there for him to pick up vs the new gen of welterweights. Till, Masvidal, Woodley etc.

yourdeadwright · 21-08-2019 10:54am

The Nal wrote: »

Yup.

Would love to see Nick back. Theres a lot of money there for him to pick up vs the new gen of welterweights. Till, Masvidal, Woodley etc.

Unfortunately for Nick most the new breed are top heavy wrestlers Usman, Coby , Woodley , Askren it wouldn't end well for him ,

I only give him a shot of wining against Masvidal as it would be a scrap, Till be to big for him ,

Same reason Nate picks and choose his fights now as he isn't getting anywhere near the top of the Welter weight division , styles make fights

billybonkers · 21-08-2019 10:57am

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

I always think that years from now when they are both retired, the 2 of them will be long distance buddies and will cross paths in a good way on occasions.

There is no way this will happen, this is a Diaz brother we are talking about

The Nal · 21-08-2019 11:06am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Unfortunately for Nick most the new breed are top heavy wrestlers Usman, Coby , Woodley , Askren it wouldn't end well for him ,

I only give him a shot of wining against Masvidal as it would be a scrap, Till be to big for him ,

Same reason Nate picks and choose his fights now as he isn't getting anywhere near the top of the Welter weight division , styles make fights

Indeed. Could Nick make LW these days?

JJayoo · 21-08-2019 11:22am

I thought Nate looked good,I liked the kicks he seems to have added, and he looked strong and quick in the scramble on the ground.

Pettis did break his foot in the first round so it's hard to really judge Nate of this fight.

One think I did notice about Nate is that he was actually checking kicks

HappyAsLarE · 21-08-2019 10:02pm

You heard it from Nate - he was absent because there was no real gangstas willing to fight - McGregor included.

Tazzimus · 21-08-2019 10:25pm

He also said Nick was the best in the world.
I wouldn't take everything he says as gospel

Subcomandante Marcos · 21-08-2019 11:52pm

Conor's passport issues are probably playing a part in his inactivity

Axwell · 22-08-2019 6:51am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Conor's passport issues are probably playing a part in his inactivity

What passport issues?

Mellor · 22-08-2019 11:03am

Axwell wrote: »

What passport issues?

He speculates that Conor can't leave the state due to events we can't talk about.

dashoonage · 22-08-2019 11:17am

Mellor wrote: »

He speculates that Conor can't leave the state due to events we can't talk about.

So what youre trying to say is Croke Park may happen yet???

:P:P:P:D:p

pastorbarrett · 22-08-2019 3:25pm

Hokey armchair psychology - but I genuinely wonder if Conor being the architect of his own downfall might ultimately be the only thing to motivate him getting back into the octagon.

There's a lot of mud being slung at the moment, and he's certainly done some reprehensible things. That being said, like most of the rest of us, I don't think he's an inherently bad guy, and he lives under a circumspect pressure most of us can't imagine.

These sorts of falls from great heights have been played out from time immemorial. Even considering his wrong-doings and him hitting pay-dirt and so on, I think it's fair to say both fans and the sport of MMA have done pretty well out of him. If he doesn't choose to fight again, it'd be at least nice to see him pay more heed to good counsel and get on with doing something that keeps him out of trouble.

JJayoo · 22-08-2019 6:23pm

"These sorts of falls from great heights"

He's still the biggest name/draw in the UFC, and he's still making more money than anyone else in the UFC from his whiskey/sponsorships. There has been no fall.

Still Ill · 22-08-2019 6:47pm

He's fallen in every regard other than a financial one tbf.

HappyAsLarE · 22-08-2019 8:45pm

JJayoo wrote: »

"These sorts of falls from great heights"

He's still the biggest name/draw in the UFC, and he's still making more money than anyone else in the UFC from his whiskey/sponsorships. There has been no fall.

This crap again. We don’t care about his financial success. His sporting career has gone to shoite.

dave1982 · 22-08-2019 9:23pm

Helwani after doing 45 min interview with conor.. Will be released soon

Whelo79 · 22-08-2019 9:26pm

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1164643254312362007?s=19

This will be interesting!

Tazzimus · 22-08-2019 9:53pm

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

This crap again. We don’t care about his financial success. His sporting career has gone to shoite.

And yet people will still watch whenever he comes back, if he does.
He's still a massive draw, either for people to watch him come back, or to watch him lose.
This thing from April probably hurt his whiskey sales more than anything else.

robwen · 22-08-2019 9:56pm

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1164654987911290880?s=19

HappyAsLarE · 22-08-2019 10:05pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

And yet people will still watch whenever he comes back, if he does.
He's still a massive draw, either for people to watch him come back, or to watch him lose.
This thing from April probably hurt his whiskey sales more than anything else.

I agree, I will watch his comeback fight.

It’s just annoying when someone criticises him and the first thing someone thinks is “well so what he is minted”. You don’t hear people saying that about e.g. McIlroy when discussing his poor performances.

robwen · 22-08-2019 10:21pm

In the interview, McGregor expressed regret for his actions in April, when he struck the man in an ugly incident. The former two-division UFC champion came clean and took full responsibility for his "unacceptable behavior" in that incident.

"I was in the wrong," McGregor said. "That man deserved to enjoy his time in the pub without having it end the way it did. ... I tried to make amends and I made amends back then. But it doesn't matter. I was in the wrong. I must come here before you and take accountability and take responsibility. I owe it to the people that have been supporting me. I owe it to my mother, my father, my family. I owe it to the people who trained me in martial arts. That's not who I am. That's not the reason why I got into martial arts or studying combat sports. The reason I got into it was to defend against that type of scenario."

The Gardai, Ireland's national police, are investigating the incident at The Marble Arch Bar on April 6, a spokesperson confirmed with ESPN last week. The Gardai does not comment on named individuals. McGregor said he would accept any consequences.

"Whatever comes my way, I will face it," McGregor said. "Whatever comes my way, I deserve it. I will face this head on. I will not hide from it. I was in the wrong. It was completely unacceptable behavior for a man in my position."

The pub punch was McGregor's second run-in with the law in as many months. McGregor was arrested and charged with smashing a man's cellphone and stealing it outside a Miami club in March. Those charges were dropped in May. McGregor admitted he was in the wrong with regard to that situation, as well.

"I need to just stop reacting to the bait," McGregor said. "People are trying to bait me into things. Am I the fish or am I the whale? I must be calm, I must be zen. I must lead by example. There's so many people looking up to me. How can I react in this way? I need to get a hold of this and, like I said, I'm working very hard to do this."

McGregor, 31, is the biggest star of the UFC, having been a part of four of the top pay-per-view events in promotion history. He also fought Floyd Mayweather in a boxing match in 2017, a bout that earned him upwards of $50 million, he has said. In the interview with Helwani, McGregor expressed concern that his current lifestyle will squander the fortune he has made in combat sports.

"So, if I have this opportunity before me, if I don't execute this and get this right, make this happen for the children of my children's children, all of my successes, all of everything I've achieved will be void, will be meaningless to me," McGregor said. "I must get this right and I must not go down that path, the written path, the cliché of the fighter that has it all and ruins [it]. I need to be aware of my past, of the past of other individuals, and learn from it and grow and that's what I'm doing."

McGregor said he's "eager" to return to the UFC. He's currently recovering from surgery on a broken left hand he suffered in May. The original plan was for him to return in July possibly against Justin Gaethje at Madison Square Garden, McGregor said, but the hand injury prevented that. A fight before 2019 is over is a possibility, he said.

For a comeback bout, McGregor said it doesn't matter who he faces. He mentioned former rivals like Khabib Nurmagomedov, Nate Diaz, Dustin Poirier, Jose Aldo and Max Holloway, as well as possible new foes like Tony Ferguson, Frankie Edgar and Gaethje. McGregor said he is in a good position as far as negotiations with the UFC. A stake in the company is no longer a "sticking point" for his return, but it remains something he wants.

McGregor said he took inspiration from Diaz's win over Anthony Pettis at UFC 241 last weekend in Diaz's first fight since losing to McGregor in 2016. McGregor also mentioned Stipe Miocic's ability to overcome his knockout loss to Daniel Cormier and finish Cormier at UFC 241. The Irishman said he yearns for his own chance to make a triumphant return after his loss to Nurmagomedov at UFC 229 in October 2018.

"Mine is gonna be the greatest one of all," McGregor said.

In March, McGregor announced on Twitter his retirement from the UFC. In the interview, McGregor said he is anything but retired -- and he's not sure he ever will hang up the gloves. At the moment, it seems like McGregor's primary focus is getting back in the Octagon.

"I must get my head screwed on and just get back in the game and fight for redemption, retribution, respect -- the things that made me the man I am," McGregor said. "And that's what I will do."

https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/27441486

Outlaw Pete · 22-08-2019 10:44pm

Looks like the stars are aligning for the trilogy fight.

Mellor · 22-08-2019 11:47pm

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

I agree, I will watch his comeback fight.

It’s just annoying when someone criticises him and the first thing someone thinks is “well so what he is minted”. You don’t hear people saying that about e.g. McIlroy when discussing his poor performances.

It would make no sense bring up earnings in response to criticism of a performance. But they weren't talking about a performance, you you point doesn't really make sense.

Bringing up his earnings in response to people talking the trajectory of his "sporting career" is very relevant. Conor very early on said the plan was to get in and get out, taking the least damage and setting up his family on route. He's done exactly that.

If McIlroy decided to take a break for whatever reason. Then "well he's loaded, doesn't need to play year round" would be perfectly reasonable.

Still Ill · 23-08-2019 12:31am

Mellor wrote: »

It would make no sense bring up earnings in response to criticism of a performance. But they weren't talking about a performance, you you point doesn't really make sense.

Bringing up his earnings in response to people talking the trajectory of his "sporting career" is very relevant. Conor very early on said the plan was to get in and get out, taking the least damage and setting up his family on route. He's done exactly that.

If McIlroy decided to take a break for whatever reason. Then "well he's loaded, doesn't need to play year round" would be perfectly reasonable.

I believe he was responding to a poster who cited this quote.

"These sorts of falls from great heights"

Now, aside from the financial aspect, where else hasn't he fallen?
A few years ago, after the Alvarez fight, he was at the top of the MMA game. He was spoken of as a potential all time great of the sport. Does anyone see him as that now? Nowhere close!
He was seen by many as a role model. Does anyone see him as that now? Only the seriously deluded!

The fact of the matter is, that in the last couple of years, he's only lost fights, he's thrown a dolly through a bus window, injuring fellow fighters and dismantling a fight card, he's been arrested for criminal damage, he's been caught on CCTV punching an elderly man minding his own business in a pub. You can add to that rap sheet any of the other grimmer rumours you like.

I'm sorry, but if you don't consider that a fall from a great height and try and dismiss it by mentioning how he's got rich then you're just plain wrong.

bmcc10 · 23-08-2019 12:45am

Not much new coming from the interview anyway. Have to laugh at how he says they never prepared properly and that basically the camps where wars and this is where all the injuries came from. What ever happened to kavanaghs famous term of upgrading the software without damaging the hardware?

Mellor · 23-08-2019 12:53am

Still Ill wrote: »

I'm sorry, but if you don't consider that a fall from a great height and try and dismiss it by mentioning how he's got rich then you're just plain wrong.

Where did I dismiss any of those things? You're making a strange strawman.

I was replying to HappyAsLarE's comment on his sporting career and why his financial success is intrinsically linked to it.

Still Ill · 23-08-2019 1:44am

pastorbarrett wrote: »

Hokey armchair psychology - but I genuinely wonder if Conor being the architect of his own downfall might ultimately be the only thing to motivate him getting back into the octagon.

There's a lot of mud being slung at the moment, and he's certainly done some reprehensible things. That being said, like most of the rest of us, I don't think he's an inherently bad guy, and he lives under a circumspect pressure most of us can't imagine.

These sorts of falls from great heights have been played out from time immemorial. Even considering his wrong-doings and him hitting pay-dirt and so on, I think it's fair to say both fans and the sport of MMA have done pretty well out of him. If he doesn't choose to fight again, it'd be at least nice to see him pay more heed to good counsel and get on with doing something that keeps him out of trouble.

JJayoo wrote: »

"These sorts of falls from great heights"

He's still the biggest name/draw in the UFC, and he's still making more money than anyone else in the UFC from his whiskey/sponsorships. There has been no fall.

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

This crap again. We don’t care about his financial success. His sporting career has gone to shoite.

Mellor wrote: »

Where did I dismiss any of those things? You're making a strange strawman.

I was replying to HappyAsLarE's comment on his sporting career and why his financial success is intrinsically linked to it.

They're not intrinsically linked. There's the financial side of things and there's the sporting side of things. Sure, he's still the biggest draw in the sport and he'll continue to make huge money should he ever fight again, but he's not considered anywhere near where he was from a sporting perspective. Take a look at the P4P rankings and it's pretty evident.
You don't hear people saying 'yeah, but what about the money Alexis Sanchez is making?' or mentioning how he's the highest paid player in the best league in the world when talking about him. Why should it be any different for McGregor?

pastorbarrett · 23-08-2019 6:59am

Not to pander to any sort of tabloid hyperbole, but he doesn't look too well in this interview.

fitzparker · 23-08-2019 7:06am

So Conor called Ariel and told him to put a suit on. 100% a PR stunt because he realized this was the biggest backlash to his brand thus far.

Anyway roll on the comeback!!

EoineyM · 23-08-2019 7:21am

robwen wrote: »

"I need to just stop reacting to the bait," McGregor said. "People are trying to bait me into things. Am I the fish or am I the whale? I must be calm, I must be zen. I must lead by example. There's so many people looking up to me. How can I react in this way? I need to get a hold of this and, like I said, I'm working very hard to do this."
https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/27441486

This shows the kind of person McGregor is. What did the guy in the pub do other than refuse his whiskey? Is that baiting him? He is only sorry that the video came out and brand McGregor has been damaged. He says somewhere else that he tried making amends. Act the scumbag and then through someone a few bob not to press charges a la the miami incident. They are the actions of a bully and a scumbag.

billybonkers · 23-08-2019 7:25am

Anyone got a link to the full unedited interview?

Mellor · 23-08-2019 7:51am

As I said, nowhere did I dismiss any of those things in my post. I think you've maybe misread what I was saying. I was replying to Larry specifically, not previous posters.

Still Ill wrote: »

They're not intrinsically linked. There's the financial side of things and there's the sporting side of things.

Fighters get paid to fight. They are putting their bodies on the line, risking serious injuries for financial gain. There are other factors too of course, but arguing that the two aren't linked is silly.
I'm not saying high earnings is the measure of a fighters legacy. I'm simply pointing out that earnings (or lack of earnings) affect how much you need to fight. The risks for a fighter are much bigger than a footballer.

A fighter trying to get signed, or climb the ranks will fight as often as they can getting extremely underpaid while doing so. The higher you climb, the more you need to be paid for it to to be worth it putting your brain on the line.

Stuff about fighting ability, P4P, lineal champ status, interim champ status, UFC record, etc. It forms the basis of a lot of discussion here, as it should. But it's of little benefit to the guy slurring his words at 40.

fitzparker · 23-08-2019 8:14am

ElBastardo1 · 23-08-2019 8:39am

pastorbarrett wrote: »

Not to pander to any sort of tabloid hyperbole, but he doesn't look too well in this interview.

He looks very pale....Hasn't been in America for his Peter Pan top up....

bmcc10 wrote: »

Not much new coming from the interview anyway. Have to laugh at how he says they never prepared properly and that basically the camps where wars and this is where all the injuries came from. What ever happened to kavanaghs famous term of upgrading the software without damaging the hardware?

I's say Kavanagh is delighted with that.

EoineyM wrote: »

This shows the kind of person McGregor is. What did the guy in the pub do other than refuse his whiskey? Is that baiting him? He is only sorry that the video came out and brand McGregor has been damaged. He says somewhere else that he tried making amends. Act the scumbag and then through someone a few bob not to press charges a la the miami incident. They are the actions of a bully and a scumbag.

I listened to the 7 minute video that centred around the assault videos. He keeps making the comment "trying to make ammends", is that him saying "I've tried to give them money"? also when he's referring to this as if it's in the past because it's 5 months ago, and he's a different person now. What does that actually mean, 5 months ago is hardly a lifetime ago.

He actually struggles to speak and use grammar, he throws in words that sound great but in the context he's using them they make zero sence.

sc86 · 23-08-2019 8:46am

Think most people will see this for what it is , a pile of crap

BigMo1 · 23-08-2019 8:51am

He literally says in the interview "I need to rekindle my relationship with my coach". He's a million miles from a return based on all this. Doesn't look or sound great tbh, I really hope he sorts himself out.

dave1982 · 23-08-2019 8:52am

I don't know if it was anyone else.. I'd say yeah he's genuine but can't help thinking it's all about trying to save his whiskey brand. He is a likeable fella sometimes tbf. I hope to see him fight again but not for title soon as he wins it. Its time to take ball and go home for him. I think he was hoping nate would mention him post fight to get his name back out there.
BTW he says he's not been grappling but his ear look more cauliflower than ever?

Tazzimus · 23-08-2019 9:25am

Still Ill wrote: »

He was seen by many as a role model. Does anyone see him as that now? Only the seriously deluded!

I always dislike this. People should not have professional fighters as role models.
Sure, some are good people, but their job is still to punch/kick people in the face for money.

Sweet.Science · 23-08-2019 10:21am

Looks a shell of a man
It would be better for him to walk away now
The huge comeback and a defeat would be the end for him as a person

spix · 23-08-2019 10:28am

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Looks a shell of a man
It would be better for him to walk away now
The huge comeback and a defeat would be the end for him as a person

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0ku_kE5N2U&t=10m9s

spix · 23-08-2019 10:36am

People saying he doesn't look or sound well, you realise the whole point of this interview is that its a publicity stunt to make it seem like hes distressed and upset about what happened so that people feel sorry for him

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